Solving the Issue of Guests Without Last Names for Show Submission

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Discussion Overview

This thread discusses the challenges faced by consultants when submitting show orders that lack last names for guests. Participants share their personal experiences and strategies for handling such situations within the P3 system.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, mentions they have encountered issues with submitting orders without last names and considers using "from work" as a placeholder.
  • Another participant shares their experience of using "X" as a last name, noting that P3 accepted it.
  • Several users mention their frustration with P3's inability to allow corrections after submission.
  • One participant expresses that they prefer to fill out order forms completely for guarantee purposes.
  • Another participant discusses using "Suzy Guest" or similar terms as last names when necessary.
  • Some participants suggest using terms like "coworker" or "unknown" to avoid confusion on receipts.
  • One user notes that they have used a period as a last name placeholder, which P3 accepts without being visible on printed receipts.
  • Another participant mentions that they have used initials as last names in the past.
  • Some participants express a desire to improve their information-gathering practices for future shows.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the best approach to take when last names are unavailable, with no clear consensus on a single method. Participants share various strategies and experiences without agreeing on one definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss their experiences with the P3 system and the challenges of obtaining complete guest information during shows. The nature of the discussions reflects personal practices rather than official guidance.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for consultants facing similar challenges with guest orders and looking for insights from peers on handling incomplete information.

kam
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I am ready to close a show, but a host gave me 3 orders without last names. When I took the orders over the phone, she said she didn't know the last names.

I didn't press her for the info since I didn't think P3 woudl insist on it. But now that I am almost ready to submit, those guests have red dots - which means it can't be submitted.

Has anyone submitted shows without last names? How do you get it to submit?

I am thinking of entering the actual first name and "from work" as the last name. The host insisted that she worked with these people and didn't know their last name.
Help!
 
I thought I've submitted orders without a last name but I guess not. I'd go with the "work", "coworker" or you could use "X".

What I hate about P3 is that once it's submitted if you find out the last name, it won't let you go back in and correct it. Just ONE of the many things I hate about P3...but that's another thread :cool:
 
I have done it once and I just put a X in the last name. P3 took it that way. I insist on OOF's being filled out completely now. I tell people it is for the guarantee info.
 
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Thanks! At the time I did want to push for the last names - but I think this gal is upset with me...so I decided to let it go.

She had a catalog booking and I asked for that guest's phone number. When we finished with all the orders I asked her if she had any other bookings - even if someone was thinking about it. She said her sister was thinking about it - but she didn't want to tell me that since I would ask for her phone number and she didn't have it. So I really didn't want to go back to her and ask the guest's last names.

This is also the gal who is insisting that her aunt is having a show in the next month or so and her aunt's catalog has a different DCB for $85. (apparently my catalog only carries a smaller version for $65). I do not think she believed me that there is only 1 DCB and we all sell the same products.

I didn't want to upset her any further. I think I will use coworker as the lastname!
 
sfdavis918 said:
I have done it once and I just put a X in the last name. P3 took it that way. I insist on OOF's being filled out completely now. I tell people it is for the guarantee info.

I have too. A lot of outside orders don't seem to like to give their personal info because they fear we'll start calling them or something. Once I began telling them it was transmitted to the home office and allowed them to help with any problems in the future...90% of my oof are now completely filled out :)
 
If for some reason I cant' get a last name, I usually put "Suzy Guest" as the last name, and I do tell the host that.
 
Now that I think of it....The drawback to putting something in the last name section that really isn't their last name is that it prints on the packing slip AND their official receipt. You might be better off putting "coworker", "work", "church", etc so that it at least makes sense.
 
I'm going through the same dilemma right now and can't submit b/c 2 of the girls booked but I don't know there last names. Now I have to wait until tomorrow to submit it. Ugh!
 
I don't know if this helps, but i used to put Smith and that got confusing because I would forget that that was the wrong name! Now I put unknown. PP will accept it and I won't forget that this is not really their name. Even if it does print on the host list I don't think it looks bad either.
 
If I get an OOF without a last name, I use a period. It fills in the spot, and P3 takes it, but it's not really visible on the printed receipt.
 
It's not just PP3 PP won't accept it without a last name anylonger either. i always just used the initial like Janet J but I like the period idea.

I haven't made the change to PP3 I am still waiting for all the bugs to be worked out : ) or procrastinating
 
trps said:
I haven't made the change to PP3 I am still waiting for all the bugs to be worked out : ) or procrastinating
Most of the bugs are worked out now. Or HO doesn't know that there are some things we don't like. There's a brand new enhancement to P3 to include online non-show orders (so the monthly sales diary is accurate) and to allow multiple users on one copy of P3 (so you can train a new consultant or allow a consultant without a computer to use yours).
 
sometimes i will use FRIEND or COWORKER or NEIGHBOR if I know etc.
 
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Thanks for the wonderful ideas!

I will definitely work harder at getting the info for future shows.
 
chefann said:
Most of the bugs are worked out now. Or HO doesn't know that there are some things we don't like. There's a brand new enhancement to P3 to include online non-show orders (so the monthly sales diary is accurate) and to allow multiple users on one copy of P3 (so you can train a new consultant or allow a consultant without a computer to use yours).

That's nice to know. Thanks for the info.
 

Frequently Asked Questions

What should I do if a guest does not provide their last name for the show submission?

If a guest does not provide their last name, you can use their first name along with a placeholder last name such as "Guest" or "Attendee." This allows you to submit the show without leaving any fields blank. Make sure to inform your host about this approach.

Can I submit a show without a last name for each guest?

While it is preferable to have both first and last names for accurate record-keeping and communication, you can submit the show with first names only. However, it is best to follow up with guests after the show to collect their last names for future reference.

How can I encourage guests to provide their last names when they RSVP?

To encourage guests to provide their last names, you can explain the importance of having complete information for order processing and shipping. You might also consider including a note in your invitation or RSVP form that emphasizes the need for full names.

Is there a way to handle guests who prefer not to share their last names?

If a guest prefers not to share their last name, respect their privacy. You can still submit their first name and a placeholder last name. Additionally, reassure them that their information will be kept confidential and only used for show-related purposes.

What impact does not having last names have on my show submission?

Not having last names can affect the accuracy of order fulfillment and communication with guests. It may also complicate future follow-ups or customer service inquiries. Therefore, it's best to strive for complete information, but you can still proceed with first names if necessary.

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