Hp & the Deathly Hallows Discussion - May Contain Spoilers!

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Discussion Overview

This thread explores various opinions and experiences related to "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," including plot points, character developments, and emotional responses to key events in the book.

Discussion Character

  • Opinion-based
  • Anecdotal
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about how Neville obtained the sword of Gryffindor after Griphook took it.
  • Another participant shares their view that the sorting hat may have summoned the sword, wishing for more details about the aftermath of the battle.
  • Several users mention various perceived flaws in the book, including the portrayal of Dumbledore and the lack of resolution regarding certain plot points, such as the baby at King's Cross.
  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, notes that they were particularly affected by Dobby's death and felt that other character deaths were not given enough attention.
  • Another participant appreciates the twist in Dumbledore's character, viewing it as a reflection of human flaws.
  • Some participants discuss their emotional reactions to character deaths, with several expressing sadness over the losses of Fred, Lupin, and Tonks.
  • One participant mentions the portrayal of house elves and their expected role in the final battle.
  • Another participant reflects on the epilogue and the fate of Teddy Lupin, expressing disappointment in how certain plotlines were handled.
  • Several users express mixed feelings about the film adaptations, noting discrepancies between the books and movies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the effectiveness of character portrayals and the handling of emotional moments, with no clear consensus emerging regarding the overall satisfaction with the book's conclusions.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and interpretations of the book, reflecting a range of emotional responses and critical thoughts on character arcs and plot developments.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in diverse perspectives on "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" and those looking to engage in discussions about character development and plot intricacies.

KG wrote: "or how Hermione was able to maintain her bag while tied up by Greyback."

This was answered in the book. It was mentioned that she stuffed it in her sock.
 
It is rumored that she is going to make a new series with a "new character". I wonder if since she introduced us to the children if there will be a series with them in mind? HMMMM
 
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chefpenny99 said:
KG wrote: "or how Hermione was able to maintain her bag while tied up by Greyback."

This was answered in the book. It was mentioned that she stuffed it in her sock.
It's been pointed out about three times that I missed that. I should just delete that post.
 
It is okay KG:D We know at your age the mind is the first thing to go.:D :D :D
 
krzymomof4 said:
It is okay KG:D We know at your age the mind is the first thing to go.:D :D :D

No, the mind is the second thing to go...

Robin
 
On www.theleakycauldron.org there is lots of talk that Rowling (or Jo as those on that site call her -- as though we know her) has mentioned the possibilty of writing another book to accompany the series. "Hogarts: A History" seems to be the possibility mentioned most often. Then we'd getmore details about the four founders, the ghosts, etc. That would be so great -- a whole Hogwarts encyclopaedia. I think we should just keep hounding Rowling til she gives in and writes another Harry book. Perhaps she could fill in the 19 yrs between the final chpater and the epilogue. Other blogs have so many people complaining about the "cheesiness" of the epilogue. Personally, I thought it was nice to end the series on a happy and peaceful note. "All was well." I think that is the least of what Harry and the others deserved. And how great that Neville gets to teach at Hogwarts. I was convinced before I even opened the the book that he was a goner.

One question though: Who rasied baby Teddy? I assumed Harry might, but I guess Tonks' mom probably did. I know Harry was just 17 but I kind of figured that as Tonks' mom aged, maybe the baby would live with Harry.

What do you think happened to the Dursleys?
 
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priscilla said:
No, the mind is the second thing to go...

Robin
Nope.

It's the first thing.

;)
 
Tonk's mom raised Teddy, but he spent most of his time at Harry's.
 
I liked the book. There are still a few unanswered questions though. 1. What is Harry's job, auror? 2. Whos the Hogwarts headmaster? 3. Who is the DADA teacher, now that the curse is broken. I cried about Hedwig that one got me, first of many. By the battle between Harry and Voldermort I was blubbering all over. But I counted 14 deaths in all...I want to know because JK Rowling said she gave a reprieve to a character...which one? I did like the Dumbledore twist because we know he wasnt perfect but its part of growing up to find out your hero has a past ans dumb decisions. The baby was annoying..I felt it was the horcruxe and it finally detached itself and was fully Voldermort at the point. I will reread the series but I want to wait. This book was great but a little intense w/ all the death.
 
For anyone who is interested, I have heard that JK Rowling is going to be on the Today show on the 26th and 27th and that she's going to be talking about some of the choices that she made in the book.
 
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I'd like to hear some of her reasons - it seems like there are a lot of unresolved issues but had she addressed all of those issues, the book might have been more like War and Peace. I doubt if anyone would be excited about a 1400 page doorstop.I fear that the Today show, depending who does the interview, will be incomplete due to their usual time constraints. Interviews seem to get cut short so they have more time to flirt with the people outside. And if the interview is by Matt Lauer, the interview will be filled with a lot of unimportant drivel.
 
I agree about Matt Lauer his interviews are never about what I want to hear.
Now what does anyone think about Mrs Weasley!!?? I was shocked her sentenced she screamed was all capital letters. But I guess as a mom wouldnt scream that also? I am glad Hagrid didnt die. I thought he was a goner when the spiders got him, and I am glad Ron and Hermoine made it through I was thinking one of them wasnt.
 
I have to say, I wasn't surprised by the book at all. It went as exactly I had figured...

I was most surprised by Hedwig dying. I do agree that many of the deaths happened so quickly that there was no time to mourn, but I suppose that in the situation there actually wasn't any time to mourn.

I was seriously hoping that Snape was good. The whole book until the end, I was thinking, "I am going to be so disappointed if Dumbledore had trusted Snape wrongly." I loved Harry's adventure into Snape' Penseive.

I liked Dumbledore's backstory too. I like him as a flawed character better. He only seemed so perfect earlier because that's how Harry saw him, just as young children think their parents have all the answers.

I do wish that there was a little more information in the epilogue. All it really showed was who married whom and how many kids they had. And Neville as a professor.

I was hoping that Harry would have died. As in died died, not the weird Deathly Hallows thing... I feel it was a little cheap to have it come back and "all was well".
 
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There was something about the entire set-up of Snape in Half Blood Prince that just didn't settle well with me. I was sure there had to be more to the story, because even with all his flaws, Dumbledore was an excellent judge of character. While Snape was not a tragic character with a lovable streak, like the Phantom of the Opera, there was an underlying reason, through the entire series, for his unjustified (and almost gleeful) dislike of Harry. ("You see in Harry what you want to see in him," Dumbledore told him.) The pensieve memories that Harry saw brought all of that into focus. His rather rapid disappearance from Hogwarts seemed out of character for him, though, IMHO. Did I miss something in his escape? Does it turn out that Snape was an animagus?
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
His rather rapid disappearance from Hogwarts seemed out of character for him, though, IMHO.

Did I miss something in his escape? Does it turn out that Snape was an animagus?
What disappearance? Are you referring to his death? I don't remember a page or chapter, but I specifically remember gasping and telling Dan, "OMG! Voldemort just killed Snape!" It was probably about 2/3 through the book.
 
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No, before the Battle of Hogwarts, Snape jumped through a window and disappeared.
 
There was mention that he flew, like Voldemort. I assumed he flew like either a superhero or a bat, since Rowling always referenced his cloaks, and cloaks make great capes/wings.
 
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Was I also the only one to find Snape's partronis to be...um...interesting? part of his personality that we never saw, I take it.
 
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shano said:
I agree about Matt Lauer his interviews are never about what I want to hear.
Now what does anyone think about Mrs Weasley!!?? I was shocked her sentenced she screamed was all capital letters. But I guess as a mom wouldnt scream that also? I am glad Hagrid didnt die. I thought he was a goner when the spiders got him, and I am glad Ron and Hermoine made it through I was thinking one of them wasnt.
The real Mrs. Weasley coming out was a wonderful surprise - I like that!

As for Hagrid, that's not the first time ("Hem, hem!") Rowlins did that to us. You may recall that the last we saw of Delores Umbridge, the Centaurs were none to pleased with her. I was kind of surprised to find her back.

Less of a surprise about Umbridge - I used to work for her. In a previous life, I worked for a pompous ass who had an assistant that was just like Umbridge - attached to the boss by the nose. You didn't dare say anything to her at all because it was a direct pipeline to the Dark Lor...er...the owner of the company.
 
Yeah- I did think it was an exceedingly gentle creature for him. But the penseive revelations told us that he wasn't the monster we've assumed since Book 1, and maybe the doe was appropriate.

I thought Mr. Weasley's weasel patronus was a little obvious and expected. :rolleyes:
 
I would LOVE to read Hogwarts: A History. It's been nearly as integral a part of the books as anything, seeings as Hermione mentions it at least once every book! :D
 
Here'sa some updated info about the Today show interview with Rowling. Meredith Vierra his conducting it. They showed a teaser this morning and it looks like it will be a good one. They filmed it in Edinburg Castle and there were some kids there too.
 
That is Thursday and Friday right?
 
If it's the Today show, it'll be early morning (7-9 am)
 
I just finished it! It took me forever because the kids kept interupting!! I liked it all! I hated that so many people had to die!! Did they mention all 5 of Harry and Ginny's kids names? I got Lily, Albus and James. I want to buy the UK version later when I can get all 7 in a set. I heard they are different than the US version since it ours are translated into our english. I met a teacher that read them all and she said that they are better since they are JK Rowlings words. No redone but a US publisher. Don't know if its true or not but still want to see!

Anyway I loved it all!!
 
Chef_2_Four said:
I heard they are different than the US version since it ours are translated into our english. I met a teacher that read them all and she said that they are better since they are JK Rowlings words. No redone but a US publisher. Don't know if its true or not but still want to see!

Anyway I loved it all!!

Here in Canada our books are published by Raincoast and are the "original" British version. I have books 1 - 3 (I think) in the Scholastic (US) version and there is some differences. I prefer the ones with the "British" English. I mean, they are in Britain after all! The differences are subtle, like "dustbin" instead of "trash can" (that's the first off the top of my head, it's in Book 1 when Hagrid's taking Harry to Privet Drive as a baby I believe). I believe I read somewhere that Scholastic didn't believe American children would understand British colloquialisms and slang.
 
northern_sunshine said:
I believe I read somewhere that Scholastic didn't believe American children would understand British colloquialisms and slang.
Which is a load of hooey! Kids are smarter than adults give them credit for, and most could either figure it out from context or ask someone.
 
chefann said:
Which is a load of hooey! Kids are smarter than adults give them credit for, and most could either figure it out from context or ask someone.

Oh, I totally agree!! I think it adds so much to the feel of the books, cause they are in England and they do have different names for things.
 
I thought Harry only had the 3 kids.
 
Unfortunately, I was spoiled about Fred and Snape's deaths. (Stupid inconsiderate people on blogs ARGH.) But Dobby made me cry! One thing I was confused about... when did Dumbledore's wand choose Draco as its master? I must have missed that... or it's been too long since I read book 6.
 

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