Reach Out to Former Hosts: ExecuFlash from Jean Jonas

[BethCooks4U]

I do not have a problem with the lead system--it motivates me to keep working towards directorship. I have a few leads from fairs that I have been in touch with who had shows "a while back" or "used to do PC parties" and I called them when I first met them, send my monthly newsletter and an occasional postcard or to some a mini catalog. Now that I know some of them may be getting a packet I will use that to motivate me and do alot of calling this coming week so they have me fresh in mind when their packet comes. Hopefully they wil prefer someone they have met over a name on paper.

I choose to work this to my advantage--at least I won't be using my postage!!

Any suggestions on what I should say when I call--I am not sure ofcourse who will get a packet and who will not.
Marisol

Actually YOUR past hosts will not be getting any of those packets. It is past hosts of inactive consultants.

 

[MGG]

Actually YOUR past hosts will not be getting any of those packets. It is past hosts of inactive consultants.

I know. I am not worried for my past hostesses just some of the contacts I am working with that have hosted parties before--not with me. I do alot of fairs and hear about people whos consultant left the biz or moved away and are looking for a new consultant. Some are ladies I have met at craft fairs that used to have a consultant but have not booked another show but bought items.

 

[ShanaSmith]

I would just ask them if they have received a new catalog, and that the company might be sending them one. Offer your services and remind them that you are there to help them. Most people would much rather work with someone that they have a relationship with that a stranger. I think you are right, it is a good reminder to follow up.

 

[rennea]

What I would like to see available on the PC website is a search option to find a consultant. You know, the kind where you know either the first or last name. I know that before I was a consultant I could tell you the first name of every consultant at every DS party I went to, I could never tell you what their last name was. (Actually I could because I kept my catalogs....but if I were talking to someone I'd say you know Becky what's her name, the PC lady.)

Great idea Linda, that's what I would like!! Go to the website and look for a consultant in your area within so many miles of your zip/postal code.

 

[jasonmva]

What I would like to see available on the PC website is a search option to find a consultant. You know, the kind where you know either the first or last name. I know that before I was a consultant I could tell you the first name of every consultant at every DS party I went to, I could never tell you what their last name was. (Actually I could because I kept my catalogs....but if I were talking to someone I'd say you know Becky what's her name, the PC lady.)

That would be awesome. I know for me I lost a sale, small dollars, but a sale none the less because my customer thought she went to my website but apparently went to the pampered chef webiste instead and just placed the order. Later hse meailed me the confirmation with another (I am assuming director) name that I did not even recognize.

Leah - I can understand the frustration. For me personally, I know I will never reach director status because I truly don't have the time anymore for PC so if I go inactive then so be it. Let the directors have the leads and just hope yours will forward info instead of keeping it for themself.

To PampMomof3 -- just because someone wants to vent something does not give you the right to tell them that if they don't like the way things are with the company then they should go sell for another company. That was a rude statement. We are all allowed to vent frustration with the company...any employee does. The title of the post let you know it was a venting post so if you didn't want to read it then you didn't have to. And apparently your recruiter couldn't have had too much of an attidtude or I don't think you would have signed with her.

There I am done now.

 

[pamperedbecky]

I'm probably going to get a lashing from you but I'm just SO tired of all the damn complaining on this site that I'm barely on it anymore! I don't think I'll be sending any of my new recruits here either. It's not because I feel I need to shield them from anything but when you're new, you want all positve information and it just seems that people are complaining that I don't get this and I don't get that.

Oh geez, sorry this is so long....

I agree somewhat myself. I haven't referred recruits or potential recruits to this website either for a while, but originally it was because the information can be SO overwhelming. It would boggle lots of people's minds. Not to mention it can become very addictive.:yuck: That was my problem...I couldn't get off this site and spent WAY too much time on it! I decided pretty much since conference to just pop on once a day (mainly to look at updates regarding Paige) and spend much less time on here. I love the site, but it can be a big time-sucker and I'm NOT a good time manager.:blushing:

I completely understand this thread was meant to be a vent and I had control over whether or not I wanted to read through it. And that's what I do....if I'm not in the mood to hear the venting/complaining/whatever you want to call it, I just stay away from these threads. But, to be honest, it's become pretty darn negative which is sad to see. This is some reinforcement as to why I don't send new recruits here. But, it's a forum that gives us the opportunity to vent so that's why I don't get too upset about it.

As for this newest Director perk, it's a hard call. I feel it's a fair perk and looking back to how I felt about things BEFORE I became a director, I can honestly say I never felt things were unfair. Sure I thought, "OH that's a bummer and too bad I can't take advantage of it" but I never got mad about it. I just knew that someday if I wanted those perks, I'd go for it. I didn't resent directors or the company because they were director-only perks. I'm not saying anyone here is resentful, I'm just saying what I felt like.

I'm not accusing others of not working their business or not doing the right things, but think about this.....I heard this many times at conference....If someone is feeling their business isn't at a level they want, they REALLY need to think about the 3-2-1 plan. Are they consistently doing 2 shows a week? REALLY. If not, then that should be the goal. The way to get closer to it is by the "3" part of the plan. When that starts happening consistently, the 1 recruit a month will start to happen, IF you're working the plan. So, to those who WANT to be there, but aren't yet, if you're doing all of the right things, it WILL happen eventually. And a positive attitude usually helps. I know this because I lived it! It eventually WILL happen for those of you who have this as a goal. Don't get discouraged, as hard as that is. Luckily there are lots of other fun incentives along the way.

I haven't read or watched "The Secret" yet, but for those of you feeling discouraged, I HEAR it's a wonderful tool to use to implement very intentional strategies in your business (and your life!). If you're stuck with what else to try, maybe this is something?

Anyway, those are my thoughts for what it's worth.

 

[momoftwins]

.....I haven't read or watched "The Secret" yet, but for those of you feeling discouraged, I HEAR it's a wonderful tool to use to implement very intentional strategies in your business (and your life!). If you're stuck with what else to try, maybe this is something?

Anyway, those are my thoughts for what it's worth.

Becky - what is this "The Secret"?? I have never heard of it.

 

[mommyhugz1978]

That would be awesome. I know for me I lost a sale, small dollars, but a sale none the less because my customer thought she went to my website but apparently went to the pampered chef webiste instead and just placed the order. Later hse meailed me the confirmation with another (I am assuming director) name that I did not even recognize.

Leah - I can understand the frustration. For me personally, I know I will never reach director status because I truly don't have the time anymore for PC so if I go inactive then so be it. Let the directors have the leads and just hope yours will forward info instead of keeping it for themself.

To PampMomof3 -- just because someone wants to vent something does not give you the right to tell them that if they don't like the way things are with the company then they should go sell for another company. That was a rude statement. We are all allowed to vent frustration with the company...any employee does. The title of the post let you know it was a venting post so if you didn't want to read it then you didn't have to. And apparently your recruiter couldn't have had too much of an attidtude or I don't think you would have signed with her.

There I am done now.

Thanks for the kind words Jason.. you just put a smile on a so so day for me.

 

[JAE]

Becky - what is this "The Secret"?? I have never heard of it.

"The Secret" is something Oprah talks about. It's pretty much positive thinking and living and it all comes back to you. That's a simplified form, of course.

 

[sfdavis918]

It's actually a book that was turned into a dvd also. We watched the dvd and really loved it. JAE was right, it's a way of thinking, but some experts claim that they have proved that positive thinking can alter the way things happen in your "world". Every time I try to explain it I make it seem like some kind of really weird thing! It's really not though. Definitely worth taking a look at. I want to watch it again to brush up.

 

[mommyhugz1978]

Is that a book you can get like at Barnes and Noble?? Sounds pretty interesting.....

 

[Addie4TLC]

Addie: I didn't know that either! Wow! I'm sorry you missed it, that would be really hard. I hope this year goes better for you.

I was so mad at myself because if I had worked a little harder I would have had it!! I focused to much on getting 6 qualified before the deadline that my sales suffered. Had I been aware though I wouldn't have pushed so hard and they would have been recruits for the new TPC year though. Lesson Learned.

 

[ShanaSmith]

at least you have lots of incentive points!

 

[Addie4TLC]

at least you have lots of incentive points!

True, if I end up going on the cruise it will be because of that!! I love it that with PC while you're trying to earn one thing you are also working towards something else.

 

[Kitchen2u]

I had a recruit a while back that decided PC just wasn't her thing, (less than a year ago)

Well she gave me all her contacts and shows she had scheduled I sent a letter to each one telling them to contact me from now on, etc etc.
and did several of her shows and met many new customers.

My point is what if one of these hosts gets a packet?!! There goes all my hard work ! It makes me look like a idiot.
There had been past hosts at the shows I ended up doing.

If you're keeping up with the contact/host coaching...then the host would just say, no thanks, I'm already working with another consultant.

If you're doing what you should be doing with your hosts, then why would you look like an idiot? You're doing your job, the best way you know therefore, it should be working for you!

 

[Koolotus]

I would hope that when HO queries the host info they will be able to see that this host's last show was with an active consultant and they won't send anything to them....kwim? I think since they are focusing on consultants who have been inactive for more than one year then they will be sending this to hosts who have not had a show in over a year whose last show was with an inactive consultant......make sense?

Hey Linda!
Thank you for putting it the way you did. That was my first fear I have had 3 girls go inactive and I have fabulous business from there "leftovers" That was my main concern was that they would contact all their past hosts. But, the way you said it makes more sense. Only hosts that have only had a show with the inactive consultant will be contacted.
Time to move up to director then!

 

[reba515]

If you're keeping up with the contact/host coaching...then the host would just say, no thanks, I'm already working with another consultant.

If you're doing what you should be doing with your hosts, then why would you look like an idiot? You're doing your job, the best way you know therefore, it should be working for you!

well Ginny I suppose your right!
I'm not too concerned, i just thought I would throw that out there (long before things got so heated on this thread )

still keeping my mouth shut...........

 

[lacychef]

Well said Becky....I've been avoiding posting here because I didn't like the direction this thread was going. C'mon us non-directors, let's work harder so we can get the perks too:thumbup:

"The Secret" is a good book....it's all about positive thinking can get you anything. It kinda goes along with Les Hewitt who spoke with the directors at conference. There was a thread talking about this book awhile back (I think I started it!)

 

[finley1991]

"The Secret" is a good book....it's all about positive thinking can get you anything. It kinda goes along with Les Hewitt who spoke with the directors at conference. There was a thread talking about this book awhile back (I think I started it!)

"The Secret" goes beyong Positive Thinking... you can think positive ALL THE TIME and things in your life can still be pretty crappy! It's about the Law of Attraction which basically says, what you project, you get. So if you are projecting Positive Thoughts, you will reap positive resutls... if you project Negative Thoughts, you will have negative things in your life.

Think about it... It's so easy to see the direction of consultants' businesses by the way they talk about PC and their personal businesses. I see it on my team ALL THE TIME! A few complain about everything and then wonder why their businesses are in the dumper... we can't be negative about something and expect something good to result from it.

It's a great book and the DVD is even better. The DVD is 90 minutes and worth it the time. You can get the book and DVD at Barnes & Noble.

 

[lacychef]

You put it into words better Colleen! It's still early & my brain isn't awake yet!

 

[dannyzmom]

Think about it... It's so easy to see the direction of consultants' businesses by the way they talk about PC and their personal businesses. I see it on my team ALL THE TIME! A few complain about everything and then wonder why their businesses are in the dumper... we can't be negative about something and expect something good to result from it.

EXACTLY!! I see it on my team, and I see it all over this message board. Thing about WHAT you are projecting...then look at your business. There are those who are ranting and raving and complaning...and there are those looking for the positive, seeking solutions and finding new and better ways to run their business......

 

[PampMomof3]

To PampMomof3 -- just because someone wants to vent something does not give you the right to tell them that if they don't like the way things are with the company then they should go sell for another company. That was a rude statement. We are all allowed to vent frustration with the company...any employee does. The title of the post let you know it was a venting post so if you didn't want to read it then you didn't have to. And apparently your recruiter couldn't have had too much of an attidtude or I don't think you would have signed with her.

There I am done now.

I'm sorry if I came off rude saying that Leah should go to a different company but if I remember right, she was saying that she was comtemplating on whether PC was right for her anymore. I thought that I would say that if she did join somewhere else, the grass isn't always greener on the other side. That's all.

About my recruiter, she's a great gal, really is but I felt like I could do the job as well or better than her and that's why I joined with her. I also didn't know of anyone else selling!

Thank you Becky for stating that you're not referring people here anymore either. You're right that it does say Vent and I scanned through it and kept my mouth shut but something told me I had to say something! Sorry!

 

[Pampered Laura]

Wow, you guys... we're all entitled to our own opinions. There is no right or wrong. But just because you're entitled to your own opinion does not mean that you should express them in such a rude and hateful manner.

And this is a COMMUNITY. Of *mostly* women.
Hello?
Of course you're going to see little spats every now and then. Sometimes you just have to take what certain people say with a grain of salt, and just *smile and nod* as they go on blah blah'ing about their hoity-toity opinions and "I know everything about everything" self righteousness. LOL.

But to not offer this board as a source for your new consultants to check out and make THEIR OWN DECISION on whether to stay? Well, thats about as selfish as not offering the opportunity to someone that could very well need it. We're all grown-ups. We know what's ethical, and whether or not we want to stay or go. Taking away that freedom to choose is just silly, IMO. (in my opinion )

This is a great message board and the board has some really fantastic members. Don't keep this valuable community a secret from your newbies, guys. That's not fair to anyone - especially those of us who ARE helpful and try to give back to the community by being positive and giving out advice in private conversations simply to help, without monetary gain - and it's not fair to Deb and Greg who work tirelessly to make this a community for ALL consultants.

That's my 2 copper's worth.

 

[mommyhugz1978]

I'm sorry if I came off rude saying that Leah should go to a different company but if I remember right, she was saying that she was comtemplating on whether PC was right for her anymore. I thought that I would say that if she did join somewhere else, the grass isn't always greener on the other side. That's all.

About my recruiter, she's a great gal, really is but I felt like I could do the job as well or better than her and that's why I joined with her. I also didn't know of anyone else selling!

Thank you Becky for stating that you're not referring people here anymore either. You're right that it does say Vent and I scanned through it and kept my mouth shut but something told me I had to say something! Sorry!

I NEVER SAID I was thinking about leaving PC... nor would I imply that.....

 

[finley1991]

I'm sorry if I came off rude saying that Leah should go to a different company but if I remember right, she was saying that she was comtemplating on whether PC was right for her anymore.

FYI... It wasn't Leah who said that she was thinking about leaving PC... it was northern sunshine, post #35

 

[PCwithStay-C]

Ok so I have an odd question. I live in CT, my recruiter lives in GA and my Director lives in CA!!! Y'all with me still!!! So if a Director in upstate CT got a lead closer to me in, downstate (???) CT, and she had no team members in this area, what would be the possibility of her passing a lead along to me? Slim to none right?
Sorry to hijack, just wanted to ask?

 

[Chef Kearns]

Stacey--I think you've got it right! Do you attend someone's meetings in CT? Sometimes a really AWESOME hospitality director will share with you. That is even fewer and further between than the other, but it does happen on occasion.

 

[BethCooks4U]

EDIT: This post took me some time to write and several other posts were made after I started it.

Okay ladies. Don't you think this has gone far enough?

We are a bunch of opinionated women here and we all know that but let's stop the bickering. Calling each other names and referring to opinions stated as hoity-toity and such is childish. Things have been said that shouldn't have been said or came across wrong but we are all human. Give each other a break and stop defending or argueing every little point. Sure some comments were out of line on both "sides" but we are all human.

We all understand that some things don't seem fair. Several directors have chimed in here and tried to explain why it is fair that the lead system is done the way it is (some even saying that it could also be improved - I think that a consultant who sells say $5000 in 3 of 4 months should get leads even if she is not a director but I do not make the rules either) . We have suggested things to help you get that promotion but some are focused on feeling sorry for themselves (or are upset with PC in general for personal reasons and so fuel the fire) and aren't seeing the caring/concern that is also being expressed by us.

See the thread on tips to build your business to see what you can do to help yourself get to that promotion. For or one thing you must be doing shows regularly - If you haven't had a cooking show in some time you are not "working your business" - you may be sending out information and wearing PC logo clothing and doing other things but if you aren't following up enough to get the shows you aren't at the level to promote let alone be the person to be handed business through the lead system. If you are doing everything that you can think of and aren't getting results then you need to be looking at what you are saying and doing and change things up. Very few of us got where we are without some sweat and tears and changes in what we are doing. Talk to your upline for ideas. Have them listen in or attend a recruiting interview with you or audit one of your shows or role play with them so they can hear what you're doing and help you. Stop thinking that you are entitled. No one is entitled. If you want something then work harder for it - don't whine.

Some may think that I am expressing an "I know everything about everything" attitude and so be it but I am only trying to help as are the others who have posted here. We all have other things we could be doing than trying to help each other - none of us are getting any pay for being on here trying to help. We care about this virtual cluster we are part of and want to make sure that the information you get is true and accurate and that you are doing your business in a way that represents the PC mission and helps you advance.

This thread is a prime example of why some of us choose to not introduce new consultants to this site until they are more comfortable with their business. We don't want them to think that PC is as negative as some make it sound with the complaining that has been happening on here since National Conference especially. Like everything else, it is an individual choice to do our business our way.

 

[PCwithStay-C]

Stacey--I think you've got it right! Do you attend someone's meetings in CT? Sometimes a really AWESOME hospitality director will share with you. That is even fewer and further between than the other, but it does happen on occasion.

Unfortunately not havent found anyone close by yet. Im also moving in about 2mths so Ill be back on the hunt for another hospitality cluster then Im just imposing on everyones clusters hehehe

 

[Chef Kearns]

Well, stick with it Stacey. As you can tell there are ups and downs with this business, but the benefits and joys wayyy outweigh the few downpoints. Do you know where you are moving to? When you do, let us know. Chances are one of us can help you find a cluster home.

Good luck!!