Update: Mega Scraper Production Delay - Important Information for Consultants

[MissChef]

We are cold here too. The WIND is the worst!! makes taking the puppy out not very fun!!

oh how this hit home!! My hubby usually has so much patience with our little dog, it's his dog! But for the last couple of days it has been so flipping cold here in Washingington, 5-6 degrees at night, 22 degrees in the day time and windy! He stands at the back door and deals with all her "sniffing!" for about 45 seconds then, he's like "come on!" Where most of the time I'm impatient even on a sunny day! Can't help it! I just don't think it takes 5 minutes to go potty! LOL! I know, I know, I'm not a dog and that's what they do! I've heard it a thousand times LOL! But now my hubby is like, dang, if she don't soon go potty, her nose is going to get frozen to the ground with all that sniffing! I just smile What I just don't get about that silly little dog, is in summer she'll go potty real quick and run back inside, in winter, she's trying to figure out how to get to the bottom of the snow, the only time she's realistic is when it's raining! Then we practically have to carry her out! She's looks up at us like.... "heck no, I'll hold it!"!!!!

 

[wadesgirl]

For those who talk about the director's board, the person who called me selfish was a director. Although they were a new member, they do have access to the director's board also. Just to give you a heads up.

 

[Pampered Laura]

That crap is everywhere Carolyn, even on the Dboards - maybe not now... but it will be eventually. People are people, ya know? Even Directors get snotty and rude. Unfortunately.

 

[kspry]

Well, I hope colechef hangs around and continues to post. Their comments didn't seem any more negative than the griping about wacky hosts, FedEx delivery problems, recruit poaching, etc.

I don't understand why the Kool Aid comment was jumped on - I must not have read that thread.

Threatening to put people on ignore is really juvenile & a lot more negative than any of that, IMO.

 

[dannyzmom]

That crap is everywhere Carolyn, even on the Dboards - maybe not now... but it will be eventually. People are people, ya know? Even Directors get snotty and rude. Unfortunately.

So far, so good over at DCS...

 

[Pampered Laura]

I know, it looks good so far. I like it over there, it's quiet and intimate.

 

[Pampered Laura]

I don't understand why the Kool Aid comment was jumped on - I must not have read that thread.

A "kool-aid" reference like this is in reference to being brainwashed. When you tell someone to "stop drinking the koolaid", it's the same as telling them that they've been brainwashed. Hope that makes sense.

 

[vtodd71]

...we just choose to spend our time posting on Director Chef Success where the mood is always encouraging, business-enhancing, supportive and positive.

Guess what? That is YOUR choice! Seriously, I doubt the mood is always anything. People are human and are not perfect.

Their comments didn't seem any more negative than the griping about wacky hosts, FedEx delivery problems, recruit poaching, etc.

Threatening to put people on ignore is really juvenile & a lot more negative than any of that, IMO.

Exactly!!!!! Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. That is O.K. Let them take their ball and go home.

 

[kspry]

I understand the reference to Jonestown (it was actually FlavorAid, not Kool Aid at Jonestown).

Anyway, it seemed to mean something different on this board that got people riled up.

 

[vtodd71]

A "kool-aid" reference like this is in reference to being brainwashed. When you tell someone to "stop drinking the koolaid", it's the same as telling them that they've been brainwashed. Hope that makes sense.

I honestly never knew what the "kool-aid" reference meant either. Thanks for clearing that up. I have to admit though that I believe some people do become brainwashed. So much that they think the company can do no wrong and when you make any small comment to explain otherwise, they put you down or tell you "don't be so negative." Just because you have a different belief as someone else doesn't mean you are always negative.

Would someone please re-hijack this thread! :cry:

 

[MissChef]

That makes two of us Beth. I'll stick to Director Chef Success. I really hate what Chef Success has become over the last 6 months or so.

aaahhhhh!!!! no! Dang it, how long do I have until I HAVE to promote to director to be able to still talk to you, Carolyn?!!!!! I do have a recruit interview today! I think I'll sign her!!!! That makes 4! I need to get out and recruit, I've got to be on director's chef success!!!

 

[Pampered Laura]

Ah - no... I think it was just the fact that someone was insinuating that these PC gals were brainwashed. LOL.
"drink the koolaid" is actually now urban-slang, isnt that odd?

 

[Pampered Laura]

I honestly never knew what the "kool-aid" reference meant either. Thanks for clearing that up. I have to admit though that I believe some people do become brainwashed. So much that they think the company can do no wrong and when you make any small comment to explain otherwise, they put you down or tell you "don't be so negative." Just because you have a different belief as someone else doesn't mean you are always negative.

Would someone please re-hijack this thread! :cry:

I agree with you there... there are definately some that are "blinded by love" as I like to call it. I was one, for sure. Any time you're super excited about something you'll get like that, though. I remember thinking things that my husband did when we were dating were "cute" that make me ape-shiz crazy nowadays. LOL.
I wouldnt go so far as to call Pampered Chef consultants brainwashed on a Pampered Chef board, though. That's just rude. LOL

 

[vtodd71]

Ah - no... I think it was just the fact that someone was insinuating that these PC gals were brainwashed. LOL.
"drink the koolaid" is actually now urban-slang, isnt that odd?

I'm not surprised. Urban culture is all around us. I have kids that I work with who say certain phrases and when I've asked them what it means, sometime they don't even know themselves. Odd. Indeed.

 

[vtodd71]

I agree with you there... there are definately some that are "blinded by love" as I like to call it. I was one, for sure. Any time you're super excited about something you'll get like that, though. I remember thinking things that my husband did when we were dating were "cute" that make me ape-shiz crazy nowadays. LOL.
I wouldnt go so far as to call Pampered Chef consultants brainwashed on a Pampered Chef board, though. That's just rude. LOL

I wouldn't call out anyone on this board and say they are brainwashed either. I was just making a general statement. I agree that colechef shouldn't have used that comment but people gave him/her heck right back so all is fair in love and war I guess.

I belive in order to move forward and make improvements you have to be critical sometimes. I believe there is a saying that says "If you do what you have always done you will get what you have always got" or something like that. Trust me, my students can be critical of me and that is O.K. because it has made me a better advisor.

 

[Intrepid_Chef]

I'll just say one thing ... and then I'll back out of here.

Colechef, there are people on these boards who REALLY REALLY love this company. And in their zeal and love to defend the company from perceived attacks, sometimes they inadvertently step on the toes of their fellow consultants.

Take a deep breath, realize they mean well, and don't let them keep you from posting.

That's what I did, and I am better for it.

 

[Shawnna]

once again things seem to have gotten out of hand on here. All she was doing is venting to us...her fellow consultants. Better here than at a show. She has a right to be upset. And yes, you have a right to disagree. But when someone starts bashing you as soon as you "say" something they consider negative you tend to "get your claws out" and bash back. I did not feel she was having a fit about not getting her scraper. I thought she was just telling us how she felt. She probably would have calmed down if someone had just said "I know how you feel. I am disappointed too. But we'll get through it together because we work for a great company. Hopefully they will get production going quickly in order for us to have plenty to sell and get for ourselves". It is hard to tell what people mean sometimes when it is written out instead of told to you directly.

Perhaps the Kool-Aid comment was uncalled for, but when we get into arguments we tend to say things we don't mean that are uncalled for...sometimes we say them knowing it is going to hurt the other person.

I did not read the Kool-Aid thread. I think it was called "Why I drank the Kool-Aid". I thought the thread was about why you joined PC and why you love it. I see now that it must have been about something else. I choose not to read it.

This is a great place for us to vent to each other and to support each other. We all gather great info here. I do not agree with everything HO does. I do not agree with everything other consultants do. But SO WHAT!! It is there choice. But I must say as a person who works with children I sometimes feel like I have walked into the pre-school classroom and all I am hearing is "did to...did not...you started it..did not...I don't like you anymore...You are not my friend anymore!"

I never mean to insult or degrade anyone. I always try to be Christ-like in my attitude and post. Sometimes I have a bad day and probably say things I wouldn't say on a different day. We all have those days. I realize that not everyone on here is a Christian. I also realize that all the Christians on here have different lifestyles, interpretations and beliefs. I realize that not everyone on here even believes in God. Am I offended by that? NO. We are all different. We have to get along. I must say that if you can't get along with me here on Earth, what are you going to do when we get to Heaven? Because I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that I am going to be there!! I am not trying to make this into a religious thread because it is not. I am just posting my feelings and hope I can help someone else in the long run.

 

[jenne]

I hate to see people leave the board because of 'negativity'. I don't always like the tone of threads, but if they go somewhere I don't like, I don't read it. I am still able to find PLENTY of encouraging and supportive threads on this board, and am able to just 'let go' of the stuff that bugs me and ignore it. Hopefully you all will choose to stay when your subscription comes up again, I love all the information on here, and as a new consultant have gotten a TON of help from this site and those who post here.

 

[JAE]

A "kool-aid" reference like this is in reference to being brainwashed. When you tell someone to "stop drinking the koolaid", it's the same as telling them that they've been brainwashed. Hope that makes sense.

I really didn't understand the Kook Aid comment. It's becoming more clear, about as clear as Kool Aid. Well, unless you buy the clear Kool Aid, like I do. It's not quite that clear. (I really don't care. I'm just being silly. I should be getting ready for my show.)

To Carolyn, Pamperedbecky, and, Beth:
Please, don't leave us. We need you! Just ignore our annoying threads and posts. If so many smart, encouraging, and informative people leave we will be lost. I know you may get what you need elsewhere, but we get what we need from you and people like you. Doesn't it feel nice to be needed? I was actually going to PM all of you, but I'm too lazy and need to get busy doing other things. So hopefully you will read this. If you leave you'll start getting PM's from me all the time. I guess you could put me on your ignore lists. You wouldn't, would you? Okay, I'll stop babbling now.

 

[paroese]

once again things seem to have gotten out of hand on here. All she was doing is venting to us...her fellow consultants. Better here than at a show. She has a right to be upset. And yes, you have a right to disagree. But when someone starts bashing you as soon as you "say" something they consider negative you tend to "get your claws out" and bash back. I did not feel she was having a fit about not getting her scraper. I thought she was just telling us how she felt. She probably would have calmed down if someone had just said "I know how you feel. I am disappointed too. But we'll get through it together because we work for a great company. Hopefully they will get production going quickly in order for us to have plenty to sell and get for ourselves". It is hard to tell what people mean sometimes when it is written out instead of told to you directly.

Perhaps the Kool-Aid comment was uncalled for, but when we get into arguments we tend to say things we don't mean that are uncalled for...sometimes we say them knowing it is going to hurt the other person.

I did not read the Kool-Aid thread. I think it was called "Why I drank the Kool-Aid". I thought the thread was about why you joined PC and why you love it. I see now that it must have been about something else. I choose not to read it.

This is a great place for us to vent to each other and to support each other. We all gather great info here. I do not agree with everything HO does. I do not agree with everything other consultants do. But SO WHAT!! It is there choice. But I must say as a person who works with children I sometimes feel like I have walked into the pre-school classroom and all I am hearing is "did to...did not...you started it..did not...I don't like you anymore...You are not my friend anymore!"

I completely agree. I'm pretty new here and while I don't want to log on and only see negative comments, everyone should feel free to voice their opinion without the fear of being attacked by their fellow consultants. If I feel someone is being too negative, I don't have to read it. That's my choice. We are all entitled to our own opinions but shouldn't be attacking each other because those opinions might be different than our own.

 

[ChefBeckyD]

I completely agree. I'm pretty new here and while I don't want to log on and only see negative comments, everyone should feel free to voice their opinion without the fear of being attacked by their fellow consultants. If I feel someone is being too negative, I don't have to read it. That's my choice. We are all entitled to our own opinions but shouldn't be attacking each other because those opinions might be different than our own.

The problem is that negative feeds negative....it grows, and seems to take on a life of it's own. And then, when things get too negative - it pushes out all of the positive. I have seen it happen many times - it's a monster. I know the politically correct thing is that everyone should be able to say whatever they want - but being pc isn't always what is in the best interest of a community.

 

[kspry]

but being pc isn't always what is in the best interest of a community

Hahaha, we have to be PC here. couldn't resist


Anyhoo, I can only assume they didn't have enough product to send to everyone who earned it. Now that, I agree with.

It must be costing them a fortune to send out 2 packages, though. Perhaps a replacement that was in stock would have been better.

 

[pamperedlinda]

....Anyhoo, I can only assume they didn't have enough product to send to everyone who earned it. ......

Maybe more consultants earned it than they had anticipated. Now, THAT is a good thing!

 

[cmdtrgd]

Things Pampered Chef has allowed me to do:1. Use my degree (theatre ed)
2. Stock my kitchen without paying full price (or any price for a lot of it!)
3. Not pay taxes on the $4K in commission and $1K in products in 2006 (haven't done 2007 yet) AND get $2500 more back than we would have with out PC
4. Give me a reason to talk on the phone (it was surgically removed after high school )
5. Allow me to travel to see family and still do my job (and write off the travel)
6. Provides a place for me to meet fabulous new people from across the WORLD!
7. Pay for my first ever car - and it is almost new!
8. Have a great support group for issues that others have had in the past that I am having now
9. The ability to help change other peoples' lives!!!Things PC has allowed others in my cluster to do:
1. Husband work for her and not die of an early heart attack like all his previous male relatives
2. Go on fabulous incentive trips
3. Pay ALL the bills
4. Be able to pay enough bills so husband doesn't have to work tons of overtime and they can spend time together and with 2 year old son
5. Educate people about food allergies
6. Pay for Montessori Preschool
7. Stay at home with kidsI didn't drink the Kool-Aid (I hate Kool-Aid!), but I see what PC has allowed ME to DO as well as how it provides a way for me and YOU to change our lives. Now, I think waiting for a scraper is worth it, don't you?

 

[vtodd71]

I know the politically correct thing is that everyone should be able to say whatever they want - but being pc isn't always what is in the best interest of a community.

I find that statement very ironic because nobody said anything about being politically correct yet some of us want the new people to be politically correct and not say anything negative at all.

I feel for the most part this is a very positive and up lifting board. But we all have our bad days (some of us more than others) and need to vent. I believe someone said it best when they mentioned that very few people were supportive of colechef but instead just gave him/her this "how dare you speak bad of Pampered Chef" attitude. Agreed that colechef shouldn't have said the Kool-Aid thing but, again, not everyone was nice to them either.

 

[chefbritt]

I wasn't going to post again, but I thought I'd explain the kool-aid thing since some people seemed confused by it. A little while ago, there was a thread about an angry customer who created a video on youtube bashing PC and their consultants. She said some pretty awful, hateful things both in the video and on her blog about PC consultants, and she frequently referred to us as being mindless and brainwashed, and would say to "stop drinking the kool-aid." People got pretty worked up about the things she said, and so I think cole's kool-aid comment stirred up those feelings again.

I've noticed cole has stopped posting on this thread, along with many others. I think that its time to move on and let the issue be done with. Cole may have upset many people, but I do believe some of the comments directed at him/her were just as hurtful. Let's agree to disagree and put this behind us. Cole, don't stop posting because of this. CS really is a great place. This should serve as a lesson to all of us to think about what we type before we hit submit.

 

[baychef]

Is there anyone that actually likes winter?

I love winter, but my favorite seasons are the fall and spring. I love summer but I can not stand humidity. I like the fact that John moved to the warmer climate. Life is too short not to enjoy the climate you are in!

 

[Pampered Laura]

Look! A squirrel!

 

[pamperedharriet]

Look! A squirrel!

Since this thread has been hijacked so much I will chime in. How is your new venture Laura going? A friend of mine has signed on but I haven't heard too much from her except an occasional invite to a show.

 

[Pampered Laura]

I'd love to tell you all about how well it's going Harriet, but I'll be roped and flamed to bits if I do that on the board. I'll PM ya with an update.