HWC Overhead Costs: A Breakdown of Donation Allocations

[RMDave]

I had a customer ask what percentage of donations to HWC (ACS) goes to direct programs and what percentage goes to overhead.

Good questions.

 

[BethCooks4U]

100% of donations go to the American Ca Society. PC doesn't keep any for overhead. Now what the ACS does I can't say.

 

[RMDave]

100% of donations go to the American Ca Society. PC doesn't keep any for overhead. Now what the ACS does I can't say.

Correct. Its what ACS does that the customer(s) want to know.

 

[tys1031]

Help Whip Cancer goes 100% to breast cancer awareness and prevention programs. It is restricted specifically for those purposes based on the contract ACS has with PC.

 

[RMDave]

Help Whip Cancer goes 100% to breast cancer awareness and prevention programs. It is restricted specifically for those purposes based on the contract ACS has with PC.

No admin costs are charged against the account by ACS?

 

[pampered1224]

We were told never. Per PC's partnership agreement, no admin costs are to be taken from the monies donated by us or our customers.

 

[RMDave]

We were told never. Per PC's partnership agreement, no admin costs are to be taken from the monies donated by us or our customers.

Thanks. I had a woman who is a professional fundraiser for non-profits go crazy at a party today. She wanted to see the contract or official documentation that none of the direct donations or donations via PC sales were going to ACS overhead. She made such a stink that not one person bought a pink item. I was none too pleased.

 

[pampchefsarah]

Wow, good thing not everyone has that mindset! If no one wanted their donations to cover overhead, ACS would have to close its doors.

 

[RMDave]

Wow, good thing not everyone has that mindset! If no one wanted their donations to cover overhead, ACS would have to close its doors.

That's true, but some non-profits take to big of an admin bite out of donations. I don't blame her for asking, but insisting on seeing it in black 'n white was a tad too much. I sarcastically said that it was in "pink 'n white" and very difficult to read. See? I can be an a--h---, too!

 

[pampchefsarah]

That's true, but some non-profits take to big of an admin bite out of donations. I don't blame her for asking, but insisting on seeing it in black 'n white was a tad too much. I sarcastically said that it was in "pink 'n white" and very difficult to read. See? I can be an a--h---, too!

Hmm, would that fall under the header of 'bantering?' Better be careful.

 

[RMDave]

Hmm, would that fall under the header of 'bantering?' Better be careful.

Banter is different than my pointing out that I can be an A--H----! That's not banter, that's the G-d's honest truth.

 

[emiscookin]

Thanks. I had a woman who is a professional fundraiser for non-profits go crazy at a party today. She wanted to see the contract or official documentation that none of the direct donations or donations via PC sales were going to ACS overhead. She made such a stink that not one person bought a pink item. I was none too pleased.

What a butthead!! :grumpy: I can't stand people like that! I cross my fingers and hope that I don't get stupid people like that at my shows, but...not likely. It's gonna happen at least once!

Loved your response! :thumbup: Lol!

 

[pampered1224]

Besides that, is she truly that anal and stupid to think that YOU actually carry a copy of the contract? I like that word "em" - what a butthead!
"Madam, I would love to see things from your point of view. But I do not believe I can get my head that far up my A&&!"

 

[tys1031]

Thanks. I had a woman who is a professional fundraiser for non-profits go crazy at a party today. She wanted to see the contract or official documentation that none of the direct donations or donations via PC sales were going to ACS overhead. She made such a stink that not one person bought a pink item. I was none too pleased.

Dave, if that happens again, PLEASE tell her to call 1-800-ACS-2345. They will give her all the info she needs! That is so horrible that she did that to you at your show!!!

Well, if anyone else has that happen, PLEASE reassure your guests....I work for ACS's National Home Office and ACS is VERY careful of how they use donor dollars. I know for sure that Pampered Chef's Help Whip Cancer dollars are not used for "overhead" as she called it. They are definitely used for our Breast Cancer prevention & awareness platform, Making Strides Against Breast Cancer.

 

[esavvymom]

As a "Professional Fundraiser" (what IS that anyway? Did she make that title up?), she of all people should know that SOMEONE's dollar will eventually have to go to a portion of the overhead of the organization, otherwise there would BE no organization doing the work at all!She had an ego and she wanted to flaunt her "job" in front of everyone. Hopefully she runs her business a bit better. Do you think she gets paid for her job helping charities?? *sarcasm intended*

 

[RMDave]

Dave, if that happens again, PLEASE tell her to call 1-800-ACS-2345. They will give her all the info she needs! That is so horrible that she did that to you at your show!!!

Thanks Kisha, you're a love!

 

[tys1031]

As a "Professional Fundraiser" (what IS that anyway? Did she make that title up?), she of all people should know that SOMEONE's dollar will eventually have to go to a portion of the overhead of the organization, otherwise there would BE no organization doing the work at all!

She had an ego and she wanted to flaunt her "job" in front of everyone. Hopefully she runs her business a bit better. Do you think she gets paid for her job helping charities?? *sarcasm intended*

She DEFINITELY gets paid and her rates are probably RIDICULOUS!!!! I know we pass on a lot of "professional fundraisers" because they want too much money. That's why a lot of non-profits rely on their reputation and word-of-mouth.

 

[pampered1224]

No kidding. When I was in 4-H many moons ago, we had to raise money for a trip to Oklahoma. They brought in a "professional fundraiser". After he got done telling all of us what we were going to sell and for how much and what the profit margin was going to be, I left the room with one of the adults, Dave. I was pretty good at math and I simply asked, if we are making 20% off each item, and the supposed donation amount offered by the company producing the product is charging us 50%, where is the other 30% going? He looked at me, went back in the room and asked that very question. The "professional fundraiser" told him it was for overhead costs. Now, I gotta tell you, Dave was not one who took crap from anyone. He looked this guy right in the eye and in front of everyone simply said. "Oh, your pocket. Um no thanks. We do not need your help not raising money for our group but for you." Well, this guy turned bright red, packed up his stuff and stomped out of the room. We ended up selling the product but we went directly to the company and get this, after we were done without fundraiser and collected our 50%, the company sent us an additional $2000 for putting them on the map in our county. We apparently had generated enough interest from other groups that they wanted to thank us. I have to admit, I never laughed so hard at an adult fool before that! I was actually snorting!!

 

[RMDave]

Great story, John ... something to be proud of ... and a vital lesson to be learned by all.

 

[tys1031]

Yes, it's sad how many nonprofits get taken advantage of by so-called "professional" consultants. Raising money is how nonprofits survive and people know that.....even the slimy, shady & unethical.

 

[RMDave]

I have no problems with this woman being a fund-raiser for non-profit agencies. My problem was her going nuts in front of everybody. She should have asked me privately rather than trying to "catch me" in a less than ethical fund-raiser.

 

[pampered1224]

What really made me feel good was that I was NOT the only one who figured out that numbers didn't add up. I mean we may have been a bunch of teenagers but none of us were very stupid!