What is Catsup? Answering the Age-Old Question

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Discussion Overview

The thread explores the topic of catsup, also known as ketchup, discussing its definition, uses, and variations in terminology across different regions. Participants share their personal experiences with ketchup and related condiments, as well as cultural differences in food terminology.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the meaning of "catsup," prompting others to clarify that it refers to ketchup, commonly used as a condiment.
  • Another participant shares that in Ireland, catsup is referred to as tomato sauce, and discusses the differences in terminology between the UK and the US.
  • Several users mention their personal preferences for ketchup brands, with one participant identifying as a ketchup enthusiast who prefers Heinz.
  • One participant humorously notes that ketchup can be used on various foods, including unconventional choices like eggs and roast beef.
  • Another participant describes the differences between ketchup, tomato sauce, and tomato paste, emphasizing their distinct uses in cooking.
  • Some participants discuss the cultural variations in food terminology, such as the use of "chips" for french fries in the UK.
  • One participant expresses a preference for mayonnaise and ranch dressing over ketchup, sharing their unique dipping choices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the appropriate uses of ketchup, with some participants expressing strong preferences for certain foods while others share contrasting opinions. There is no clear consensus on the best way to use ketchup or the terminology surrounding it.

Contextual Notes

Participants share experiences from various cultural backgrounds, highlighting the differences in food terminology and preferences between the US and the UK. The discussion reflects a blend of personal anecdotes and cultural observations.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the cultural aspects of food terminology and personal experiences with condiments may find this discussion engaging.

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Ok thank you all.

The recpies are fairly similar I just think they have been translated ingredient wise.Although the Lava cake sounds interesting, which if my youngest had he would probably have ketchup/catsup with it.
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
We're two countries separated by a common language.

Gotta love the Brits. Why use three letters when five will do? Not to mention, truth in signage and calling a modern design bridge exactly what it is! (I like this one so much, I'm going to put it in the Bridge thread, too!)

Major plans for historic Essex bridge
Link: http://www.dunmow-broadcast.co.uk/content/dunmow/news/story.aspx?brand=SAFOnline&category=NewsDunmow&tBrand=HertsCambsOnline&tCategory=newslatestDUN&itemid=WEED09%20Oct%202008%2016%3A04%3A51%3A737

FEARS are rife that a historic bridge in need of repair could be replaced with what has been described as a "concrete monstrosity".

http://www.dunmow-broadcast.co.uk/herts24/assets/images/dynamicFeedCambs/WHHAED018229102008.P02.jpg

Essex County Council (ECC) has approved plans to rebuild Thaxted's Folly Mill Bridge to enable it to carry lorries of up to 40 tonnes in weight.

Chairman of Thaxted Parish Council John Freeman said: "I understand that the bridge needs to be repaired so that it can be used by larger vehicles. At the moment refuse lorries have to stop and turn around instead of crossing it, which can be damaging to the verges.

"A bridge with a limit of 20 tonnes would be sufficient. We are concerned that building a bridge with a 40-tonne limit will encourage large lorries to start using the narrow lane."

The 1940s-built Folly Mill Bridge is on a country lane off the B184 Dunmow to Thaxted road and currently has a three-tonne limit because of a structural fault.

The bridge is 8ft wide, but the reconstruction will see it widened to 13ft.

To make space for the larger bridge, a garden wall at Folly Mill, a Grade II Listed 17th century building, will be partially demolished.

A spokesman for ECC said: "This bridge is being strengthened for safety reasons as it is currently in a deteriorating condition. We appreciate this is rural road and we are not intending to encourage any more heavy vehicles than strictly necessary, such as fire engines and farm vehicles, to use it.

"To this effect we are considering possible environmental restrictions, such as a width restriction, for Folly Mill Bridge and we will be consulting with the local community fully on this. Any such restriction would have to take into account the potential need for use by fire engines, refuse lorries, delivery lorries, farm vehicles and other vehicles which could be considered to have a need to use the bridge."

The bridge originally had a weight limit of 17 tonnes, but this was reduced about three years ago when the damage became apparent.

The new structure with a 40-tonne limit will bring it inline with national guidelines.
 
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If you think using 5 letters instead of three is fun - go to wales
 
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http://www.llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.com/
 
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The_Kitchen_Guy said:
[shudder] Ketchup on roast beef? [/shudder]

That's why they invented Worchestershire Suace.

(Can anyone explain to me how "Worchester" comes out "Wooster"?)

ETA: Yeah, I know. Purists will say it's "Worcester" but both spellings seem to be acceptable these days.)

And also ETA, Lea & Perrins is the best Worcestershire Sauce.

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Depends if you live in Worcestershire, same as Bicester,Alcester and Cirencester.

You say tomayto we say tomahtoe
 
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Tamayto, tomahtoe,
Potaytoe, Pahtahtoe,
Let's call the whole thing off.
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I would join in with the :sing: but I would clear the board.I got removed from the school choir.:cry:

You are all fab and have made me smile for the first time today.
 
I agree. Heinz is the only good catsup/ketchup. I only put catsup on hot dogs. I do not like it on anything else - well, if I buy a burger out I let them leave it on and that's okay but if I make a burger at home it gets mayo.

When I was in Holland they had the best sauce served with fries - I need to look that up. I know it had mayo... and something else. :confused: YUM!:love:
 
babywings76 said:
Out in Utah (where I went to college), they sell butter in cubes, not sticks. That took some getting used to. (It wouldn't fit right on butter dishes, because they were wider and shorter.) Out there is where I learned about fry sauce. Now that's the best! It's like ketchup and mayo mixed together. McDonald's out there even had manufactured little packets of it that you could get. They don't have them anymore though. But many hamburger joints have containers of fry sauce that you can pump into little cups and use to dip your fries.

Here in PA, some places serve vinegar to put on your fries.

I have lived in UT almost my whole life Iand I have only bought butter in sticks. I buy it the same way here in NV. Now fry sauce I love. If you mix it with ketchup, mayo and a little oickle juice it tastes even better. I think that is how McDonalds made it. I now Hardees did it that way
 
Jennie4PC said:
I have lived in UT almost my whole life Iand I have only bought butter in sticks. I buy it the same way here in NV. Now fry sauce I love. If you mix it with ketchup, mayo and a little oickle juice it tastes even better. I think that is how McDonalds made it. I now Hardees did it that way
Oickle juice?

Must be a Utah delicacy.









Hehehehehehehehehehehe
 
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And then you get recpies that call for a knob of butter.
 
I lived in UT for a short while too. My roommates used to cook with "cubes" of butter- but they were sticks. They just called them cubes. And I LOOOOVE fry sauce. I heard that it's mayo, ketchup, and buttermilk. YUMMY
 
Yakmama said:
I lived in UT for a short while too. My roommates used to cook with "cubes" of butter- but they were sticks. They just called them cubes. And I LOOOOVE fry sauce. I heard that it's mayo, ketchup, and buttermilk. YUMMY

All the recipes from my UT family and friends are written as "a cube of butter". They are slightly shorter and fatter than sticks though. They thought I was odd when I would ask for a "stick" of butter sometimes. :)
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
Oickle juice?

Must be a Utah delicacy.









Hehehehehehehehehehehe

I must say that this thread is a hoot!! Thanks for the laughs!!!
Trina
 
babyicebean said:
And then you get recpies that call for a knob of butter.

At least they don't ask for a knob to wash the dishes when you're done.

Oh, and when you go to the store/grocery store/grocer/supermarket/market (what you call it depends where you live) you're going to push a cart, not a trolley.
 
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What is oickle sauce?
 
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Now if I was to push a cart here I would need a horse as they put horses in the shafts of a cart.
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
[shudder] Ketchup on roast beef? [/shudder]

That's why they invented Worchestershire Suace.

(Can anyone explain to me how "Worchester" comes out "Wooster"?)

we have a city here in MA named Worcester also,but of course it's pronounced
"WIS-TA" ;)
 
babyicebean said:
What is oickle sauce?

It is ment to say pickle juice. I was obviously having problems typing. :rolleyes: Sorry to confuse you.
 
Back in my college days, I used to get pretty well oikled every weekend.
 
It's 2 am... I should be in bed (in England), but this thread is hystercal! I am crying with silent laughter!

I'm sorted with all things tomatoey.... but what on earth is frozen cool whip?!?!?!?!?!

Shall I start a new thread or is that asking for trouble?!

Night night!
 
swinkate said:
It's 2 am... I should be in bed (in England), but this thread is hystercal! I am crying with silent laughter!

I'm sorted with all things tomatoey.... but what on earth is frozen cool whip?!?!?!?!?!

Shall I start a new thread or is that asking for trouble?!

Night night!

You are a brave woman!:D

Cool Whip is a brand name for what is known as "non dairy whipped topping" It's a fake version of whipped, sweetened heavy cream. But we Americans have an affinity for it....you will notice that many of the dessert recipes you see on this site call for it.

I try not to think about what's in it, or how it's made.:yuck:
 
Better living through chemistry.(That's an old advertising slogan from DuPont Chemical Co.)
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
Better living through chemistry.


(That's an old advertising slogan from DuPont Chemical Co.)

Especially
if you purchase the fat free/sugar free version!:yuck::yuck::yuck:
 
Yes, there is curry in ketchup in Germany - among other things. But they put mayo on fries and it's not the same may we have here and it's really, really good!
 
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I think the Cool whip is like that stuff you can get called dream topping.My gran used to use it on everything dessertwise.Have you ever had dream topping and apple pie?
 
Recently I was talking with a friend about tiramisu. She asked if marscapone is like cream cheese. I told her, "Well, kind of. It's like cream cheese the same way Cool Whip is like whipped cream."She said, "Oh, so not at all."http://www.smileyvillage.com/smilies/happy0009.gifWe like cool whip, but it doesn't compare to real whipped cream.
 
Like the commercial for ReddiWhip: oil or cream?Cool Whip is a little scary, but there are times when it's the ingredient that works best, especially when one doesn't have time to make stabilized whipped cream (with unflavored gelatin in it).
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
Oh, one more thing...if your a ketchup enthusiast, you're going to like Heinz about the best. Hunt's is acceptable in a pinch. Store brands are generics and are...awful.

In Germany, they sell ketchup with curry in it, that you can't get here. :(

I second that! There's absolutely no other k'heinz!! ;)
 

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