My Turn to Comment on Cs (Beware: Tirade)

[baychef]

i agree with you all about the tone at cs. I hate that we all can't just get along. It would be nice if there was a "rep post" and a "dem post" so that we can just post our good thoughts about our own choices without being bashed by bullies.

It's really disappointing to see people slinging bad remarks about the other party's candidates.

Just support who you want to support and don't worry about what others think, and don't bash the other party. For heavens sake, we are all adults!

amen, sister!!!

 

[ChefLisa]

I agree with you all about the tone at CS. I hate that we all can't just get along. It would be nice if there was a "Rep Post" and a "Dem Post" so that we can just post our good thoughts about our OWN choices without being bashed by bullies.

It's really disappointing to see people slinging bad remarks about the other party's candidates.

Just support who you want to support and don't worry about what others think, and don't bash the other party. For heavens sake, we are all adults!

That is actually a great idea!

 

[jwpamp]

Go ahead, Lisa, you can use my idea, but I am not going anywhere NEAR CS for now!

 

[ChefLisa]

Okay, I need your help. I need to be encouraged on down right threatened to stay off Chef Success tomorrow. I was off for so long and now I have been truly sucked by in. The distractions are not helping my business at all.

Please help me!

I am going to another Consultant's show in the morning. She is in my Director's downline. Since my Director moved away, she asked me to help her by attending. I am looking forward to it because I love helping others with their businesses.

 

[ChefLisa]

Go ahead, Lisa, you can use my idea, but I am not going anywhere NEAR CS for now!

You are so smart! It is too dangerous!

 

[baychef]

Okay, I need your help. I need to be encouraged on down right threatened to stay off Chef Success tomorrow. I was off for so long and now I have been truly sucked by in. The distractions are not helping my business at all.

Please help me!

I am going to another Consultant's show in the morning. She is in my Director's downline. Since my Director moved away, she asked me to help her by attending. I am looking forward to it because I love helping others with their businesses.

Ok...here is what happened with me. I started getting upset about the tone on some threads (must be before the crap REALLY hit the fan) I found I was thinking about it unconsciously (sp?). Then I was questioning myself and saying to myself...am I getting so closed minded that I can't listen to other's opinions? and putting myself down...then I would get angry when I hear news reports that bothered me. As I stated in a previous paragraph, my business has been lagging.

Last year I had a lot on my plate and had a family illness that I contributed much time to. I would have had it no other way, but since I work full time other than PC, my business took a back seat and my habits became bad.

I have a downline consultant that is doing fantastic but I did something I was not aware of. Once I realized it, I was so ashamed and feel horrible admitting it. I was actually thinking that she was out to steal my business and I felt she was rubbing her success in my face at times... There, I said it and I am so ashamed, because I had this done to me and it was horrible.

The best thing I can do for myself, my business, my team, my family, my staff at my full time job, etc. is to STOP with this negativity. It was sucking the life out of me and my business.

CS was not contributing to this, but right now I know that if I go on certain posts, I will start thinking stupid thoughts again. One negative thought runs into the next. It took me a few days to stop myself, but each time I read threads, the same things were happening again. My vow is to ONLY read threads that are NOT Chef Lounge posts (I made the exception with your nice thread, however). ONLY check files for new ideas and click on any post that interested me that was strictly business related.

FOCUS on your business! What needs improvement? How do you feel is the best way to overcome this obstacle in your business? Write down all that you need to do and how you are going to do it. What is your time frame for starting to impliment your plan? Where do you want to be in 6 months or 1 year. How are you going to do it?

Ok...now I have to go take my own advice!!! Focus on this wonderful task that your director has trusted you with. She much have so much confidence in you to give this to you. Focus on what you can bring to the table and contribute.

Let us know how you make out...with CS abstinence and with your meeting tomorrow!!

 

[ChefLisa]

Ann, that is a beautiful and heartfelt post. It is also very inspiring to me.

I will stay off CS tomorrow. I really should stay off the lounge. It is truly addicting. It does not help my business or my family in any way.

Thank you very much!

 

[ChefLisa]

I just challenged everyone on CS to stay off tomorrow if they do not have the show schedule they want.

 

[PampMomof3]

Ok...here is what happened with me. I started getting upset about the tone on some threads (must be before the crap REALLY hit the fan) I found I was thinking about it unconsciously (sp?). Then I was questioning myself and saying to myself...am I getting so closed minded that I can't listen to other's opinions? and putting myself down...then I would get angry when I hear news reports that bothered me. As I stated in a previous paragraph, my business has been lagging.

Last year I had a lot on my plate and had a family illness that I contributed much time to. I would have had it no other way, but since I work full time other than PC, my business took a back seat and my habits became bad.

I have a downline consultant that is doing fantastic but I did something I was not aware of. Once I realized it, I was so ashamed and feel horrible admitting it. I was actually thinking that she was out to steal my business and I felt she was rubbing her success in my face at times... There, I said it and I am so ashamed, because I had this done to me and it was horrible.

The best thing I can do for myself, my business, my team, my family, my staff at my full time job, etc. is to STOP with this negativity. It was sucking the life out of me and my business.

CS was not contributing to this, but right now I know that if I go on certain posts, I will start thinking stupid thoughts again. One negative thought runs into the next. It took me a few days to stop myself, but each time I read threads, the same things were happening again. My vow is to ONLY read threads that are NOT Chef Lounge posts (I made the exception with your nice thread, however). ONLY check files for new ideas and click on any post that interested me that was strictly business related.

FOCUS on your business! What needs improvement? How do you feel is the best way to overcome this obstacle in your business? Write down all that you need to do and how you are going to do it. What is your time frame for starting to impliment your plan? Where do you want to be in 6 months or 1 year. How are you going to do it?

Ok...now I have to go take my own advice!!! Focus on this wonderful task that your director has trusted you with. She much have so much confidence in you to give this to you. Focus on what you can bring to the table and contribute.

Let us know how you make out...with CS abstinence and with your meeting tomorrow!!

WOW Ann! That was very well said. You have such a beautiful way of writing things. I will heed your advice and try to get more bookings. I work today and will come home to make phone calls.

You know what, it's natural to feel that way about your new recruit you're human!! At least you've turned it around and noticed what was happening instead of harboring those feelings and losing a friend. Great Job!

 

[pamela]

I just challenged everyone on CS to stay off tomorrow if they do not have the show schedule they want.

I am up for this challenge....I too am spending way too much time "lurking" and then getting pulled into crap I should stay out of....I will check the Paige update, the 3-2-1 success thread and I am then out of there!

I am going to get on my CELL PHONE today and make calls as well as make host packets to mail to me late Sept shows!

 

[BethCooks4U]

I had knee surgery on Tuesday and it has kept me away except for brief checking in. The good thing is that I wasn't caught up in it all. The bad thing is I wasn't there for Carolyn. I cannot believe some of the bashing because of who it is coming from. We are all adults and all have our own opinions and we all deserve to be respected. I think both sides have had some coolade drinking and it's healthy for the country to have a healthy debate. What I don't get is the blatent lies and skewing of facts (I know - both sides do it). Makes me really sad.


Now, about my surgery - I had a knee arthroscopy. It didn't go as well as it could have - recovery will be slower than normal and the prognosis isn't good. I will soon need a total knee replacement. I held a show over to September to help my Sept. sales but my team has never been good at picking up slack - they do what they're going to do and that's it. We should be okay though for now. My worry is that the future surgery means a much longer recovery - will I make it through that? (My business I mean)

 

[pamperedbecky]

I had knee surgery on Tuesday and it has kept me away except for brief checking in. The good thing is that I wasn't caught up in it all. The bad thing is I wasn't there for Carolyn. I cannot believe some of the bashing because of who it is coming from. We are all adults and all have our own opinions and we all deserve to be respected. I think both sides have had some coolade drinking and it's healthy for the country to have a healthy debate. What I don't get is the blatent lies and skewing of facts (I know - both sides do it). Makes me really sad.


Now, about my surgery - I had a knee arthroscopy. It didn't go as well as it could have - recovery will be slower than normal and the prognosis isn't good. I will soon need a total knee replacement. I held a show over to September to help my Sept. sales but my team has never been good at picking up slack - they do what they're going to do and that's it. We should be okay though for now. My worry is that the future surgery means a much longer recovery - will I make it through that? (My business I mean)

Sorry to hear about your knee, Beth!!! That's a huge bummer it didn't go as well as it could have. I hope it's enough to get you through for a while.

I still haven't gone to read that thread, so I can only imagine what was said. I think I will say off of there altogether today. I lit my candles for Paige late last night, so I don't really have a need to go on there today.

 

[jwpamp]

Oh, Beth, I am so sorry about your surgery. I hope you heal quickly!

I have an appointment at my spinal surgeon's on Monday in Chicago. I just picked up the Radiology Report and my Cervical MRI CDs to take with.....I was thinking on the way in "if the report shows no problems, I will cancel my appointment -- hubby has been cut hours at work and we are down several thousands of dollars a month in income...now is not the time to spend money on a Doctor's appointment that I don't need".

Well, no such luck. The report shows problems in 2 cervical levels, a bulging disc and degeneration on several cervical levels....geez, glad I didn't have the REST of my spine MRI'd! Sheesh!

No wonder I have been having problems.

Yes, we have fantastic insurance -- no deductible, 100% coverage after a small office visit co-pay...the insurance company paid $155,000 for my spinal fusion 4 years ago....but still, there is cost to get to Chicago, gas, tolls, parking, etc. and then the cost of the appointment (which is not much, I know).

Truth is, I really don't want to go thru another surgery right now. We need my income now more than ever. I can only hope that he lets me go for a while longer before we do anything...at least until hubby gets back to normal hours. I don't want to use our savings in case he gets completely laid off.

I HATE that the government has done this to us (and I mean ALL OF US) -- put us in a position where we are struggling to make ends meet, not regulating oil companies so that they don't charge incredible prices for gas and keep all the profits tax-free. Sending billions to other countries when we can't even get ourselves together. UGH -- that is a whole nother thread!

Well, back to work. I have a Newsletter to do for our meeting and consultant calls to make. I booked 2 more shows last night. I need to keep my schedule up to 12-14 shows per month to help us get thru this mess. Hubby can't work another job because he is on call 24/7. I was thinking maybe I would show him how to put things on e-Bay (NO -NOT PC PRODUCTS). A friend of ours has had lots of luck doing this...that is something that will keep him occupied and clean out our house all at the same time!

Oh my, how OT can you get. I think this is my first official HIJACK!

 

[Mel5497]

Sorry to hear of the health issues Beth and Janice. Wishing the best for both of you.

I agree, Janice, the PC income is mattering more than ever in our house too. I am trying to get ahead of the game and get my show average back up (took a huge slip in August).

One thing I am deeply grateful for is the foundation Doris laid for this company. It has always been about helping families (both those of customers and consultants). When times get tough, we don't have to reinvent ourselves (like some companies are having to do right now). I'm finding I am going back to the basics (like Morfia suggested).

I can't wait to see the new ad campaign in Everyday Food!

 

[pamela]

Beth and Janice, you have GOT to take care of yourselves! Please feel better and don't stress out about business right now....be healthy!

 

[BethCooks4U]

Janice, take care of yourself! Follow what your doctor suggests (unless you feel another opinion - then do that first). The rest will all work out.

Funny thing is I knew I would need surgery this year but it's for a really bad bunion. Now, even though it's hard to wear shoes and walk for any length of time that problem is on hold. I don't know when he wants to do the total knee but he is trying something else first. I know the recovery from that surgery is much longer so I am worried on how that will impact my business and I was just about back to where I was before after a downturn and really wanted to ramp it up. I guess time will tell.

Sorry for the hijack.

 

[Koolotus]

Beth ((HUGS)) I wish I could come and help you. My brother had that done, it is terrible pain and annoyingly slow recovery for some.

Janice, hijack away! Obviously you needed to get it out because you have to be stressed financially, physically and emotionally.

I think we all have some issues right now. Thank goodness we have each other for support ideas and inspiration!
Feel better girls

 

[jwpamp]

OK, just couldn't take it anymore (maybe MY husband should ban me from CS!!!).

see post #655:

http://www.chefsuccess.com/f18/mccain-picks-palin-43017/index33.html

 

[jwpamp]

Thank you, Beth....they just don't get it.

And yes, I am done there, too.

 

[pamperedlinda]

It is a really ugly thread - along with the others that have spawned off of it. I've been skimming over them (mainly because I'm nosey and I also want to see what others think about the issues) I have been tempted several times to post as well, but I'd rather not get caught-up in the hateful postings. It's very sad how downright rude some people are. It amazes me how someone can totally slam you in one thread and then be your best friend in another - it's like they have no idea who they are talking to, just responding to words...again, very sad.

I have always loved CS, it saved my business at a time when I was floundering. Over the past few years that I have been a member, I have seen the cycles of the site - lately it has been a waste of time, I'm ready for this cycle to end and for it to get back to the fun and helpfulness and support that it used to be. There used to be so many who were willing to help, now they are just looking for an arguement or a put-down .

 

[Mel5497]

I have always loved CS, it saved my business at a time when I was floundering. Over the past few years that I have been a member, I have seen the cycles of the site - lately it has been a waste of time, I'm ready for this cycle to end and for it to get back to the fun and helpfulness and support that it used to be. There used to be so many who were willing to help, now they are just looking for an arguement or a put-down .

You put into words exactly what I have been feeling. I'm all for direct speaking, but a little bit of old-fashioned southern manners would be nice over there. Sweetened ice tea anyone?

 

[Chef Kearns]

I just went and reported the thread and hope that Greg will close it up. I'm a little miffed that he started it in the first place. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that in this election more than any others I've kept up with emotions and opinions are running high. He threatened to close it when we were debating abortion and religion. He should go ahead and do it now. It is serving no purpose.

Vote to close it! Stand up with me.

 

[pamela]

You put into words exactly what I have been feeling. I'm all for direct speaking, but a little bit of old-fashioned southern manners would be nice over there. Sweetened ice tea anyone?

is there any other kind?!?!

 

[baychef]

It has been so many DAYS since I have been on CS or DS and when I come back to CS just to light candles, I looked on the post that Leggy started and sure enough...it ended up to be a mean bashing thread.

Leggy, thank you for having the courage and guts to put yourself out there and thank you to those that supported her too.

I will continue to be a life member of CS but for now, will mainly use it for lurking and idea taking...not sharing. I will share on DS, however. CS is not an atmosphere that I choose to be in. What really stinks is I don't have the time to sift through the crap to offer support to people. What worries me is that there will be no new blood and certainly this gives more support to those in PC that don't support CS.

Very sad, but some over there are just so happy muddling in the mess that they now defend it.

Now...for my friends Beth and Janice...my prayers will be with you both. Janice, my father had double knee replacements 2 years ago when he was 74 and my brother just had both of them done and he is 56. Why both at the same time? Because you go through recovery once and many people won't go back to have the second one done! Both are doing well, but I just can't imagine the pain that all of you go through with your knees.

And Janice...my other brother has had spine and back problems since age 19. You take care of that back. I know money and time on surgery is burdensome, but if this problem will get worse, then it is best to have it fixed now.

Both of you take care!!!

Thank you all for making my post sharing earlier easier. It is hard to admit that we can act so foolishly sometimes. My school job is just burying me right now and I hope that my PC business doesn't get put on the back burner for too long. I know I feel like I have been on a burner and am quite crispy around the edges!!:bugeye:

 

[pamela]

But, Ann, you are still at least on the stove, right?!?!?!

 

[BethCooks4U]

It has been so many DAYS since I have been on CS or DS and when I come back to CS just to light candles, I looked on the post that Leggy started and sure enough...it ended up to be a mean bashing thread.

Leggy, thank you for having the courage and guts to put yourself out there and thank you to those that supported her too.

I will continue to be a life member of CS but for now, will mainly use it for lurking and idea taking...not sharing. I will share on DS, however. CS is not an atmosphere that I choose to be in. What really stinks is I don't have the time to sift through the crap to offer support to people. What worries me is that there will be no new blood and certainly this gives more support to those in PC that don't support CS.

Very sad, but some over there are just so happy muddling in the mess that they now defend it.

Now...for my friends Beth and Janice...my prayers will be with you both. Janice, my father had double knee replacements 2 years ago when he was 74 and my brother just had both of them done and he is 56. Why both at the same time? Because you go through recovery once and many people won't go back to have the second one done! Both are doing well, but I just can't imagine the pain that all of you go through with your knees.

And Janice...my other brother has had spine and back problems since age 19. You take care of that back. I know money and time on surgery is burdensome, but if this problem will get worse, then it is best to have it fixed now.

Both of you take care!!!

Thank you all for making my post sharing earlier easier. It is hard to admit that we can act so foolishly sometimes. My school job is just burying me right now and I hope that my PC business doesn't get put on the back burner for too long. I know I feel like I have been on a burner and am quite crispy around the edges!!:bugeye:

Ann, (I'm the one with the knee problem )

I have been told that when you do both at the same times that the recovery time is actually longer because neither knee is strong. I need to check further into this. One of my knees is much worse than the other and only one has been MRI'd but both bother me...

 

[pamela]

ooooppppssss....I went and got involved on Kris's thread...........I think it is a good time to delete CS from my favorites....then maybe I won't be so tempted to get involved over there!

 

[ChefLisa]

Never mind. Found it.

 

[pamela]

I think it is titled "Ignoring the Lounge?"

I have decided to just be a lurker over there~ no more posting in the lounge AT ALL!!!! I have to be strong if there is no way for Greg to let us ignore the darn thing. It is just sucking too much of my time and energy...................

 

[baychef]

Ann, (I'm the one with the knee problem )

I have been told that when you do both at the same times that the recovery time is actually longer because neither knee is strong. I need to check further into this. One of my knees is much worse than the other and only one has been MRI'd but both bother me...

:cryroof that I am crispy around the edges!!! I typed Janice, but I was thinking of you, Beth, when I typed it!! (hope that counts!!)

For my Dad, he was supposed to have back surgery, but he waited so long to have his knees done that they told him, knees first (his grandsons had never seen him with straight legs!!!). Dad had a bad reaction to the drugs, one surgeon operated on both knees (long operation) and his recovery time in the hospital and the rehab was about 5 weeks. He was operated on July 25th and by Thanksgiving, he was driving solo in the car.
My brother was operated on August 14th. He had 2 surgeons operate so his operation only lasted about 1 to 1.5 hours. He left rehab on August 26th. He has a two story home and his shower is on the second floor. He is now walking with a cane and is progressing well.
Also, they also say that if both are bad, and you do one at a time, your body gets out of whack compensating for the other bad knee.
My brother had his done in Buffalo too where they have more experienced doctors than where my Dad had his done. Not that he didn't have good care, but that does make a difference sometimes. I think Dad may not have had the complications he had if he had been put into ICU right off the bat. He had a mild heart attack because of a fatty emboli floating from having the bone cut into.
Boy, I've talked you right into this one haven't I!!!!!