Men & Breast Cancer: The Unfortunate Reality

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Discussion Overview

This thread explores the topic of breast cancer in men, sharing personal experiences and opinions about its increasing prevalence and potential environmental factors. Participants express concerns about chemicals in everyday products and the impact of antibacterial products on health.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant recalls reading about the increasing odds of men being diagnosed with breast cancer, expressing sadness over the statistic.
  • Another participant shares their experience of knowing two men who survived breast cancer and emphasizes the importance of breast self-exams for men.
  • Several participants express the belief that environmental factors, including what we breathe and eat, contribute to health issues, including breast cancer.
  • One participant mentions their mother's theory about government "secret tests" affecting health through food, water, and air, suggesting a connection to increased health issues.
  • Another participant discusses their concerns about the chemicals in lotions and bath products, highlighting the importance of being cautious about what is applied to the skin.
  • One participant notes the overuse of antibacterial products, arguing that traditional soap and water are sufficient for cleaning and that excessive use may harm health.
  • Several participants share their experiences of rarely getting sick and attribute their health to avoiding chemicals and maintaining a more natural lifestyle.
  • One participant recounts a conversation with a doctor about the ineffectiveness of antibacterial soaps unless used with surgical precision.
  • Another participant mentions a study comparing children raised on farms to those in overly clean homes, suggesting that exposure to germs may lead to better health outcomes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the effectiveness and necessity of antibacterial products, with some participants expressing skepticism about their use, while others share personal anecdotes about their health and cleaning practices. No clear consensus emerges regarding the impact of environmental factors on breast cancer rates.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal anecdotes and opinions based on their experiences and observations, reflecting a range of beliefs about health, cleanliness, and environmental influences.

Who May Find This Useful

Members of the consultant community interested in discussions about health, environmental factors, and personal experiences related to breast cancer and product usage may find this thread relevant.

pampered1224
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This saddened me. About 5 years ago I remember reading that it was 1 man for every 300 women would be diagnosed with breast cancer. This means that the odds for men are becoming worse instead of better. Yes, ladies, we are the dumber of the sexes and this just proves it.
 

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Since I've known two men who survived breast cancer I always mention at my HWC parties that breast self-exams are important for men as well. I didn't realize the statistics had gotten so much worse, though.
 
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I still personally believe that all the stuff we breathe into and eat are a good reason for this. Also, men STILL do not believe it is an issue for them. STUPID!!
 
pampered1224 said:
I still personally believe that all the stuff we breathe into and eat are a good reason for this.

My mom has said for years that the government runs "secret tests" on us - she's not crazy and this is the only thing of this type that she has ever said - but she believes that stuff is put into food, water and air in different locations to see what affects it has on the population. Sometimes it's hard to deny it. I know in the three years we lived in New Jersey I knew more moms with twins than I have ever known in my entire life. Just a theory but I do agree that what is in our food and air really affects our health.
 
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Sharon - I am not sure either that I would doubt your mom. However, there is so much crap out there accidentally that I don't think the government would need to poison us any more!
 
Look at our lotions and bath products-all the chemicals they put in there! I am very picky about what I put onto my skin (as it is absorbed directly into our bodies then). I have heard (used to work at a spa) not to buy anything with ..."Dea" in it. A lot of lotions put in cocamide dea. (cancerous) Also, have you ever noticed that for a lot of lotions, one of their main ingredients is alchocol? What does alcohol do? Dries out the skin! Why would someone put alcohol on their already dry skin hoping to make it moist? The lotion companies then add propylene glycol to counteract the dryness-that's what gives you the soft feeling after you put on lotion. PG is also used in commercial garages to clean the floor and it's added to anitfreeze for that same smoothness. I substitute teach also and when kids go nuts with the lotion, I remind them that if the chemicals that are used to make that lotion were seperated and put into buckets, there is no way anyone would stick their hands in 'em!

While we're on the subject of harmful stuff, aren't we as a society getting a little crazy with the antibacterial gel? Good ole soap and water will do the trick in cleaning! People always freak out when I don't use it when they are, and I simply tell them that I'm more afraid of what the chemicals in that stuff will do to me disease-wise then a few germs that my body will probably fight off anyway.
 
Kelly8 said:
Look at our lotions and bath products-all the chemicals they put in there! I am very picky about what I put onto my skin (as it is absorbed directly into our bodies then). I have heard (used to work at a spa) not to buy anything with ..."Dea" in it. A lot of lotions put in cocamide dea. (cancerous) Also, have you ever noticed that for a lot of lotions, one of their main ingredients is alchocol? What does alcohol do? Dries out the skin! Why would someone put alcohol on their already dry skin hoping to make it moist? The lotion companies then add propylene glycol to counteract the dryness-that's what gives you the soft feeling after you put on lotion. PG is also used in commercial garages to clean the floor and it's added to anitfreeze for that same smoothness. I substitute teach also and when kids go nuts with the lotion, I remind them that if the chemicals that are used to make that lotion were seperated and put into buckets, there is no way anyone would stick their hands in 'em!

While we're on the subject of harmful stuff, aren't we as a society getting a little crazy with the antibacterial gel? Good ole soap and water will do the trick in cleaning! People always freak out when I don't use it when they are, and I simply tell them that I'm more afraid of what the chemicals in that stuff will do to me disease-wise then a few germs that my body will probably fight off anyway.


Kelly, I think you must be my long lost twin. :love:


This is exactly why I MAKE my laundry detergent and cleaning solutions also. I firmly believe that our bodies have no way of processing the myriad of chemicals we take in every day, so I try my best to eat clean and live clean.
 
Great minds do think alike! I don't make my own laundry detergent and I'm still stuck on scrubby bubbles for the bathroom, but for everything else cleaning-wise I use soap and water. And I'm rarely sick-I get a cold maybe once every 5 years or so and then it lasts for about a day and there is no fever, runny nose, nothing like that. People are so afraid of germs that they've forgotten what those chemicals that are supposed to "clean" us can do to our bodies. And as far as the antibacterial stuff is concerned, we do have good bacteria on our bodies and if you kill that off, of course you're going to be sick. Okay,this is my little soapbox!
 
Kelly8 said:
Great minds do think alike! I don't make my own laundry detergent and I'm still stuck on scrubby bubbles for the bathroom, but for everything else cleaning-wise I use soap and water. And I'm rarely sick-I get a cold maybe once every 5 years or so and then it lasts for about a day and there is no fever, runny nose, nothing like that. People are so afraid of germs that they've forgotten what those chemicals that are supposed to "clean" us can do to our bodies. And as far as the antibacterial stuff is concerned, we do have good bacteria on our bodies and if you kill that off, of course you're going to be sick. Okay,this is my little soapbox!

I had a Dr. friend tell me once that in order for those antibacterial soaps to really work, we would have to scrub our hands like surgeons do going into surgery, and 99% of the population would never take the time or effort to scrub that well. (the other 1% probably have OCD :)) I've watched my 5 yr old wash his hands enough to know that those germs are still there after he washes!:D
 
I also had a couple of nurses tell me that they are seeing the worst cases of diarreah (spelling?) in children because teachers use the antibacterial before lunch on the kids and what do kids eat with? Their hands-so their bodies aren't able to break down the food. I was with friends and before we ate they insisted on using it and asked me if wanted some. I said no thanks. They thought I was just so dirty lol! Now, before they ate, but after they put on the antibacterial gel, they touched the table that God knows how many people before them have touched it, put their hands on the seat where people plant their bottoms, rubbed their nose, etc. I just think it's impossible to keep yourself germ free, so why not try to build up your immunity? Also, I just read a study that had been done on children that grew up on farms vs children who grew up in overly clean homes, and the farm children had less disease/sickness throughout their lifetime and docs think it was because they were exposed to more germs and were allowed to be somewhat dirty (like kids should be-go play in the dirt and grass!).
 
I remember running through the barn barefoot when I was younger... :) yes through the cow pies and all..
 
colegrovet said:
I remember running through the barn barefoot when I was younger... :) yes through the cow pies and all..

I did too, Terry! I loved growing up on a farm, and wish that I could give that to my son.

I think I'll go buy some manure to fertilize the garden! :D:D:D
 
My mom is constantly using that antibacterial gel. I generally don't touch the stuff. I've been told, though that it's a great fire-starter in a pinch. LOL!
 

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