Kellythechef's Updated Rewards Info: Phone Call with Katie

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Discussion Overview

The thread centers around the updated rewards information shared by a participant regarding the requirements for earning various incentive levels within the Pampered Chef community. Participants express their thoughts on the necessity of recruiting to qualify for these incentives, sharing personal experiences and feelings about the implications of this requirement.

Discussion Character

  • Opinion-based
  • Anecdotal
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, shares details about the incentive levels, including the requirement of recruiting to earn certain rewards.
  • Another participant expresses enjoyment of Miami Beach, recalling a positive experience from a previous visit.
  • Several users mention their disappointment with the recruiting requirement, stating it does not align with their current business goals or personal preferences.
  • One participant highlights their success in earning Level 1 without needing to recruit, emphasizing that recruiting is not feasible for everyone.
  • Another participant notes the frustration of needing recruits to earn incentives, questioning the fairness of this stipulation given their sales performance.
  • Some participants discuss the challenges of recruiting, including the perception that it is hard work and not as easy as it may seem.
  • One participant raises concerns about the potential for recruits to become inactive, questioning the reliability of this requirement for earning incentives.
  • Another participant mentions the possibility of this requirement being a temporary change, pending official confirmation from Pampered Chef.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ significantly among participants regarding the recruiting requirement for earning incentives. Many express dissatisfaction and concern, while others acknowledge the need for clarity on the rules moving forward.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a range of experiences and sentiments from consultants regarding the impact of recruiting on their ability to earn rewards, highlighting the diversity of approaches within the community.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants who are navigating the incentive structure and considering their recruitment strategies may find the shared experiences and opinions relevant to their own situations.

I'm all for recruiting. Sometimes it's easier said than done though. A lot of the consultants here are hobbyiest's too. I would hate to have all the points for a trip from sales and then miss out on it because I couldn't recruit.
 
I am shockedI am so shocked by everyone's response to the recruiting requirements for the new incentive trip. I can hardly believe it when people say "they don't want recruits" or aren't "actively" recruiting. I know this sounds harsh, and I don't want to be harsh, but do you honestly thing that you are the ONLY person in the room each time you have a Cooking Show who needs...a night out...extra money...a sense of accomplishment...cooking skills...friends...free trips...free/discounted product and all of the other benefits our opportunity provides? Stop being so selfish with your business. Maybe if you "actively" offered the opportunity, you would grow your business, help someone else realize a dream AND go to on the trip.
 
chefjenniffer said:
I am so shocked by everyone's response to the recruiting requirements for the new incentive trip. I can hardly believe it when people say "they don't want recruits" or aren't "actively" recruiting. I know this sounds harsh, and I don't want to be harsh, but do you honestly thing that you are the ONLY person in the room each time you have a Cooking Show who needs...a night out...extra money...a sense of accomplishment...cooking skills...friends...free trips...free/discounted product and all of the other benefits our opportunity provides? Stop being so selfish with your business. Maybe if you "actively" offered the opportunity, you would grow your business, help someone else realize a dream AND go to on the trip.

I never said I don't recruit (I am one that said I don't activley recruit). I talk about it at every show, I have information in my flip top chart that I talk about during EVERY show. I ask everyone during check out and I follow up with everyone. I have a few leads but none of them have panned out so far. I don't believe that you have to recruit in the business to do what YOU want to do. This is my business and I can run it like I want to. I just don't think it's fair that I can reach the level I want to but not acheive anything if I cannot get someone to recruit. Trust me, I've tried and have a few fence sitters but nothing is working on them. I don't think it is fair that I had over $25,000 in sales my first year and acheived Level 1 with no recruiting points but if I do that this year, I don't get anything for my effort. That's all I was saying this morning. And there are some people out there who are just doing this as a hobby and don't want to build a team (I have a good friend in another direct sales company and I don't think she's selfish just because she doesn't want to recruit). I personally don't have the time right now with a full time job, PC, family, etc to try to build a team - why should I be punished by not earning an incentive for that?? Why can they not give an extra incentive for those who recruit??
 
Plus, don't call me or anyone on here selfish. You do not know me and don't know the situations I am in or anyone else one here. I think that's a little rude.
 
I think it's perfectly fine not to recruit. It's your choice, but I think it's fine for PC to say you're not going to get a trip if you don't. It's their choice, too. But I think that chefjennifer is right, too. And if you do offer the opportunity, eventually someone will take you up on it. The key is to be there, be available, and believe in them. I believe in my recruits more than I believe in myself. Having seen the testimonies of some of the amazing women of this company, I know that the sky's the limit!

By the way, do you know that if you achieve Level 1 that you are in the top 10% of the company???
 
I agree with wadesgirl! Reward those that do recruit but don't punish those who don't. If PC isn't the only thing going on in your life it could simply be a timing issue. It takes a lot of work and effort to try to make your recruits as successful as they can be. If they aren't confident in what they are doing how can you be confident in what you are doing. Your team is what you have made it and if your team doesn't do very well how well can you do? They want us to grow but unsuccessful growth isn't really growth at all is it?
 
chefjennifer - that was a little harsh for a first post! Not all of us said we didnt want to recruit. I have recruited and have 3 active - and I do offer the opportunity enthusiastically at everyshow - Im definitely not selfish. I live in a small town - everyone has heard of the company - most are happy buying or hosting - Im lucky that way. I teach and do this parttime and to achieve Level 1 is an honor for me - a trip would be great but Im not going to stress myself out over it either by feeling like I HAVE to recruit. I'll still offer it like always and if they sign up, wonderful! Im happy to have them on my team!
 
By the way, do you know that if you achieve Level 1 that you are in the top 10% of the company???


My new goal? To be in the top 10% of the company - and then some (I still want level 2)!! :)
 
chefjenniffer said:
I am so shocked by everyone's response to the recruiting requirements for the new incentive trip. I can hardly believe it when people say "they don't want recruits" or aren't "actively" recruiting. I know this sounds harsh, and I don't want to be harsh, but do you honestly thing that you are the ONLY person in the room each time you have a Cooking Show who needs...a night out...extra money...a sense of accomplishment...cooking skills...friends...free trips...free/discounted product and all of the other benefits our opportunity provides? Stop being so selfish with your business. Maybe if you "actively" offered the opportunity, you would grow your business, help someone else realize a dream AND go to on the trip.

Wow! That was inspiring, especially coming from a trainer....what a way to show the positive side of things.
 
I don't think its fair to call those who don't go out of their way to recruit selfish. I would LOVE to have recruits and build a team, and I don't think it's fair that if I work my tail off and have enormous sales, that I don't get a trip simply because I didn't have a recruit. As I said, I would LOVE to have recruits, but I live in a very rural area, and not too many folks here are real quick to take up something like PC. It doesn't take too many consultants in this area to become saturated...and as a newbie, I am having a hard enough time getting as many shows as I want, let alone recruits. I just don't think PC is allowing us to live our life "our way" if they start requiring recruits for incentives...Achieving the sales needed in this area is hard enough...if we are able to do that, it's not fair to deny us simply because we didn't have anyone bite on the business opportunity. IMO that's not selfish on my part as a consultant....but perhaps on PC's part as a company. Not everyone is in it for building a team, and it's not selfish or wrong of them to want to run their business that way. We should be allowed to grow or not to grow at our own pace....
 
jenne said:
I don't think its fair to call those who don't go out of their way to recruit selfish. I would LOVE to have recruits and build a team, and I don't think it's fair that if I work my tail off and have enormous sales, that I don't get a trip simply because I didn't have a recruit. As I said, I would LOVE to have recruits, but I live in a very rural area, and not too many folks here are real quick to take up something like PC. It doesn't take too many consultants in this area to become saturated...and as a newbie, I am having a hard enough time getting as many shows as I want, let alone recruits. I just don't think PC is allowing us to live our life "our way" if they start requiring recruits for incentives...Achieving the sales needed in this area is hard enough...if we are able to do that, it's not fair to deny us simply because we didn't have anyone bite on the business opportunity. IMO that's not selfish on my part as a consultant....but perhaps on PC's part as a company. Not everyone is in it for building a team, and it's not selfish or wrong of them to want to run their business that way. We should be allowed to grow or not to grow at our own pace....

I agree...I am fairly new as well and was hoping to "work on learning the business" before trying to pull others into it. I don't feel comfortable recruiting when I'm still working on just the basics.
 
Wow! That was inspiring, especially coming from a trainer....what a way to show the positive side of things.

No doubt.

Jenniffer, if that's the way you became a Director and train your downline, I believe I'll be just as happy staying a lowly consultant, recruits or not. It's bad enough to see these people who have lousy Directors and have to go to others for help because they don't get it from their own upline. To see a Senior Director spew that kind of tripe as a first post, lol, all I can say is thank God my Director is a sweetheart.
 
chefjenniffer said:
I am so shocked by everyone's response to the recruiting requirements for the new incentive trip. I can hardly believe it when people say "they don't want recruits" or aren't "actively" recruiting. I know this sounds harsh, and I don't want to be harsh, but do you honestly thing that you are the ONLY person in the room each time you have a Cooking Show who needs...a night out...extra money...a sense of accomplishment...cooking skills...friends...free trips...free/discounted product and all of the other benefits our opportunity provides? Stop being so selfish with your business. Maybe if you "actively" offered the opportunity, you would grow your business, help someone else realize a dream AND go to on the trip.

I find that most people know by now that I'm going to do a "recruit" speech. They hear it at every home party they go to and they hear how great the incentives and pay checks are. The also know that I get a percentage of their sales. I mention it and tell them if they are interested we can talk. That's it.

If someone wants to sell...great...I hope they love it as much as I do. But, I will not waste people's time by hounding them. I think it's insulting.
 
buzz26 said:
I find that most people know by now that I'm going to do a "recruit" speech. They hear it at every home party they go to and they hear how great the incentives and pay checks are. The also know that I get a percentage of their sales. I mention it and tell them if they are interested we can talk. That's it.

If someone wants to sell...great...I hope they love it as much as I do. But, I will not waste people's time by hounding them. I think it's insulting.
I think that is the difference between those of us who have a hard time recruiting and those that don't. They don't look at it as hounding them. They look for clues that people may be interested and then offer information. They have the mindset that they are truly offering an opportunity. This is what I have to work on. PC has bettered my life, so why wouldn't it work for someone else too? Someone may be interested, but not want to ask more questions. If I can catch someone's cues and offer them information on the business that is a good thing. I need to get over the feeling that I'm hounding them and realize that I could be doing them a favor. Also, if you ask permission to follow up then it's not hounding. If they say no, or not right now when I call then that's ok.
 
I don't have a problem with the new trip requirements since I am actively recruiting to become a director and this will give me more incentive. But I am very surprised that it is a requirement in order to earn anything. Since a trip is a perk I guess HO can set any rules that they want to on them. It does kinda suck and I'm sure that there will be some cheaters and I do hate it that someone with the minimum $$$ of sales and a recruit or two will earn something that someone with super high sales will not. But it is a perk and HO sets the rules.
 
One of my sister directors said something this weekend that really got me... "Give everyone the opportunity to tell you no. If you don't, you aren't giving them the opportunity to tell you yes".

When I first started my business recruiting was not my number one priority. I wish I would have come in thinking it was what I was "supposed" to do. I came home from NC '06 and decided to start asking everyone and it really does work. I know it's not everyone's dream to be a director, or to even be a future, but why not just ask. I really think the company has been moving towards this since last leadership with 3-2-1. The big push has been recruiting. I completely understand those who are upset about it, but I guarantee you that if you ask everyone at every show you do if they would be interested in the opportunity, you'll find a yes this year, and, if you have the sales, you'll earn your trip. If you are a consultant, it's your directors responsibility to train your newbie, so the work load shouldn't increase for you. Change is always hard, but it is something that helps us grow and become better at what we do.

Just my 2 cents for what it may (or may not) be worth.
 
It's funny seeing everyone say it's the director's responsibility to train. New consultants aren't always told that and unless they read it here, they don't know. I wasn't trained. My recruiter has given me a little help but I've only spoken with her once in a month. (She's backed off PC a bit because of other things in her life.) Even then, she's a new consultant too so I found myself telling her things she didn't know. I'm one to just jump in and learn everything I can but I know others aren't like that. That's why I love this site, btw!

I think it's important for us, as recruiters, to make sure our new recruits are aware of this and are willing to accept help and training without feeling they're putting anyone out. It's equally important for the directors to be willing to train and if they're not, to give us someone to turn to. There's nothing worse than getting into something and feeling like you're the only one in it. Kind of like being alone on a deserted island.
 
iteachurkid said:
Change is always hard, but it is something that helps us grow and become better at what we do.
This is definitely something I am guilty of always forgetting. I get caught up in the downer of something without seeing the upside. Thanks for reminding me that I started my business to grow as a person!
 

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