Do We Know This Person? - Article at Escanaba, MI Daily Press

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Discussion Overview

This thread discusses concerns regarding a recipe featured in an article from the Escanaba, MI Daily Press, which some participants believe may have been improperly attributed or copied from Pampered Chef. Participants express various opinions about the ethics of using published recipes in contests and the implications of recipe originality.

Discussion Character

  • Opinion-based
  • Anecdotal
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the recipe in question is "Tangy Pepper-Pecan Brie," which they claim is their recipe.
  • Another participant expresses frustration that the contest should require original recipes, questioning the integrity of the submission.
  • Several users mention that it seems inappropriate for someone to use a recipe without giving credit, particularly when the name and ingredients are unchanged.
  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, wonders if permission is needed from the home office to use Pampered Chef recipes in media.
  • Another participant shares their experience of contacting the article's author to inquire about the contest rules.
  • Some participants speculate that the contest may allow for published recipes, but express doubt about the ethics of doing so without attribution.
  • One participant recounts their communication with Pampered Chef's Test Kitchen regarding potential copyright infringement.
  • Another participant expresses concern about the lack of credit given to original recipe creators.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on whether the contest rules allow for the use of published recipes, with some participants expressing strong disagreement about the ethics of the situation while others suggest it may be permissible.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a mix of personal experiences and opinions regarding recipe attribution and originality within the context of cooking contests, particularly as it relates to Pampered Chef recipes.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants interested in the implications of using Pampered Chef recipes in contests or media may find the insights shared in this thread relevant.

ParishKitchen
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"http://www.dailypress.net/stories/articles.asp?articleID=12961" article at Escanaba, MI, Daily Press.
 
I don't know but that is our recipe "Tangy Pepper-Pecan Brie":eek:
 
Wow! At least give PC credit!!:eek:
 
People have no shame!!
 
That's nuts! Don't those contests have to be ORIGINAL recipes??? Not recipes you have stolen from someone else!!
 
That's lame.
 
Yeah really!! Although now we can say it's an AWARD WINNING recipe!! :)
 
OMG! The least she could have done was make up a new name!
 
Perhaps they WERE allowed to use published recipes? That's the only thing that would make sense here...didn't alter the recipe at all, didn't alter the name at all...

?????????????
 
she must be a consultant or recent host to have the recipe already.

At least they only got a ribbon, not a montary prize or a kitchen remodel
 
Yikes... at least make up a different name for the recipe.. too much of a coincidence!
 
But even if they were allowed to use published recipes (which most cooking contests I know of do not allow you do to), shouldn't the name/company that originally published the recipe have their name listed as well? I'm thinking that since it is such a new recipe and most people don't know about it yet, that it was "stolen" and turned in as original. That is just sad.
 
Could we even submit a PC recipe as a Consultant without consent from HO?
 
Probably not.
 
I love to give everyone the benefit of the doubt but yikes!:eek: .... at least she could have changed the name! Maybe for benefit's sake she tweaked the recipe! I hope so!:rolleyes:
 
Is there a way to look up a consultant? I tried to see if she was a past host, but didn't come up with anything. Interesting!
 
Ok, so I have to admit that I emailed that gal who wrote the artile to ask if she happen to know about the rules of the contest. Hey, I figure since the author's email address was posted with the article, why not. Maybe I'm more curious than anything. ;)
 
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Leigh0725 said:
Ok, so I have to admit that I emailed that gal who wrote the artile to ask if she happen to know about the rules of the contest. Hey, I figure since the author's email address was posted with the article, why not. Maybe I'm not more curious than anything. ;)

Interesting! I wonder what she'll say!
 
If you really want to know if this person is a consultant all you have to do is contact HO. They will tell you and they will give you her PWS address if she has one.

I didn't read the article, but if this is a local contest, it may not be for an original recipe, maybe it's just for your favorite recipe.......
 
Setting the contest aspect aside, we are supposed to get permission from HO to have recipes reproduced in the media. Despite the fact that the recipe in the article is NOT identified as a PC recipe, it is the same as one (of course, she may have come up with it on her own, coincidentally, but the name being exactly the same shoots a hole in that theory).
 
Leigh - let us know if you hear anything from that person.

I can't believe someone would use a recipe from PC and not give credit!!! The nerve of some people!!!! Geez!
 
Not sure what to think. I'm knee deep in some work for my FT job, but will try to respond later tonight. I just wanted to post what the author wrote:
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Thanks for your comment.

It's the general concession of our newspaper that recipes are not subject to copywrite rules because there's no way for anyone to check the authenticity of any recipe. I would suspect that the majority of recipes in the average family's recipe box (including my own) were once thought up by someone and published (maybe in a Betty Crocker cookbook or Taste of Home magazine) and later passed along from family to family and person to person without any thought of where they originated.

Likewise, someone who wants to add that Ladies Day recipe to his/her own collection would just throw a copy of it their own recipe box, make it for a church or family function, and if asked for the recipe, would just provide a copy of it, and so on and so on. They may or may not mention where they got the recipe from.

It may be the case that someone down the road makes a variation or two and maybe renames it, in which case, that also becomes an original recipe.

I agree that it doesn't seem right that the originator of the recipe rarely gets the credit, but I don't think there is much that can be done about it.

Dorothy M.
Lifestyles editor
 
I thought that would be the response I've heard it before when I see our recipes as the big $$$ winners in Taste of Home magazine or it's sister publications. Many of our recipes havebeen winnners or featured recipes in those magazines.
 
In general, I think they are correct. And if the contest required original submissions, I don't think it is up to the newspaper to try to verify the authenticity of it. However, in this situation, there should be little doubt in anyone's mind that this recipe is not original... the chance of this being a coinsidence is about the same as the 1000 monkeys with typwriters recreating Shakespere. Anyone contact HO about it?
 
Usually you have to sign something saying that this is your original recipe - don't you?
 
katie0128 said:
In general, I think they are correct. And if the contest required original submissions, I don't think it is up to the newspaper to try to verify the authenticity of it. However, in this situation, there should be little doubt in anyone's mind that this recipe is not original... the chance of this being a coinsidence is about the same as the 1000 monkeys with typwriters recreating Shakespere. Anyone contact HO about it?
I did. I didn't post that I did because I didn't want to get flamed about it. I sent a note to the Test Kitchen. I buttered them up first with a genuine compliment about the new recipes this season, :) then I mentioned that we may have found an instance of copyright infringement, and I gave them the link to the article.

I just checked my email, and this is the reply I received from them:
Hello, Ann!

Thank you so much for contacting The Pampered Chef Test Kitchen hotline!
This is very interesting. I will forward the article to our legal
department. I wonder what the legal ramifications are for this sort of
thing. If I happen to hear the outcome from our legal department, I'll
let you know.

Thank you again for alerting us to this copyright infringement. You and
our other Consultants are our eyes and ears to what we sometimes cannot
see.

Have a wonderful day!
Sincerely,
Joanne

CS Detective Agency strikes again! Thanks to ParishKitchen for the original post.
 
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I always did want to be a criminologists!!!!
 
jrstephens said:
I always did want to be a criminologists!!!!

me too! i would make the BEST detective!! my husband better not EVER think of cheat on me and he knows it! lol :angel:
 
chefann said:
Chef Success Detective Agency strikes again! Thanks to ParishKitchen for the original post.
If you get a reward you better share it with the rest of your Detective-Wanna-Bees! :p
 
Will do. Although it really should go to ParishKitchen for finding that article in the first place. I was just the busybody who forwarded it. :)
 

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