Belinda's Style of Host Coaching

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around various approaches to host coaching, particularly focusing on the practice of requiring a guest list from hosts before sending out invitations. Participants share their experiences and strategies regarding this aspect of their business, referencing insights from Belinda Ellsworth's training.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses admiration for Belinda Ellsworth and her 10-step Host Coaching plan, highlighting the importance of a guest list for successful shows.
  • Another participant mentions that they do not ask for a guest list, instead encouraging hosts to invite people personally while handling invitations and reminders themselves.
  • One consultant insists on requiring a guest list, stating that they will not send a host packet without it, emphasizing the need for control in the process.
  • Another participant shares their experience of a host canceling a show after refusing to provide a guest list, indicating the potential consequences of not adhering to this practice.
  • Several participants discuss the logistics of sending invitations and host packets, with some opting to deliver them in person while others prefer mailing them.
  • One participant shares a form they use for guest lists, noting that they have not experienced cancellations due to this requirement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on whether to require a guest list from hosts, with some participants firmly advocating for it while others prefer a more flexible approach. No clear consensus emerges on the best method.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and strategies related to host coaching, reflecting a variety of practices within the consultant community.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants looking for insights on host coaching techniques and the management of guest lists may find this discussion beneficial.

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Pampered Laura
So, I was on a training call with Belinda Ellsworth last week and she was going over her 10 step Host Coaching plan. :love: I love her. So much info she has...that lady is a GENIUS.

Anyway, she mentioned that she ALWAYS sends the invites for her hosts, and REQUIRES a guest list. She says it's her "guarantee" that she'll have a show with people there.

I spaced out at the end when we were allowed to ask her questions and forgot to ask her this...

What do you say/do when your host flat out refuses to give you a guest list? Do you tell her you're not doing her party? Or do you do it and hope for the best?
 
Pampered Laura said:
......Anyway, she mentioned that she ALWAYS sends the invites for her hosts, and REQUIRES a guest list. She says it's her "guarantee" that she'll have a show with people there.
Is she still doing DS? With which company? I thought she just had her speaking biz?

Or did you recruit her....LMAO! :cool:
 
I don't ask for a guest list. I say "I make things nice and easy for my hosts. I send out the invitations and make the reminder calls. All you have to do is get a guest list to me and the ingredients for the show. Just so you know, I don't use the guest list for anything other than the show. I don't put people on my emailing list unless I specifically ask them. However, the show will be so much more fun if you just start talking about it to people you come across and give them a personal invitation right then!"
 
I don't make it optional. I tell my hosts, "I am going to send your invitations for you. I will e-mail you your guest list form tonight... just fill it in right on the form and send it back."

I used to teach sales training and one thing I learned from that is that if you give people options, they can say "no." Don't give them the option. Just tell her that's how it goes.
 
Oh and one more thing. No one gets a host packet from me until I get a guest list. No list... no friends coming... no need for a host packet. I tell them that they'll get everything as soon as I get the list. That way they aren't distracted by trying to choose a recipe and all the other stuff. First and foremost, I want them working on who to invite!
 
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Thanks for the input, guys! I actually did phrase it this way the few times I tried sending invites when I was with Pampered Chef, and I did have a host that said "Oh, I don't want you to do that, I don't feel comfortable giving my guests info out... I'll mail them myself". And then she canceled her show.

Since training w/Belinda I realized that I need to start doing this. Colleen, do you happen to have the form you email your hosts? It'd be great if it was email-able! :)

PS: Linda, Belinda Ellsworth does weekly live (phone) training for the company I'm with. I havent recruited her yet. LOL ;)
 
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finley1991 said:
Oh and one more thing. No one gets a host packet from me until I get a guest list. No list... no friends coming... no need for a host packet. I tell them that they'll get everything as soon as I get the list. That way they aren't distracted by trying to choose a recipe and all the other stuff. First and foremost, I want them working on who to invite!

:eek: thats what Belinda said she does! I'm so nervous to actually tell someone I won't do their party! LOL Have you ever had to do that?? You're my hero, Colleen.. seriously, this is exactly how I want my business to be - ME in charge, not my hosts! :D
 
That's great, I was thinking about starting to send the invites, and now I think I'm going to do it.
 
Here is the form I use. I've never had anyone cancel because of not wanting to give me their list.

It's YOUR business! YOU MUST BE IN CHARGE!!!! Would your dr. be okay if you said, "Yeah, I'm going to take my own BP and draw my own blood and give it to you." No way! Okay... I know that's extreme but you get my point!

In the 3 years I have been doing invites, I've only NOT gotten a list twice. No list... no party. And the best thing is is that I knew there was no party at least two weeks out. Not the night of the show. Plus I know how many invitations are sent.

The other thing I do, is at the show when I go over the host program in the catalog, I throw in that another host benefit is that if you book with me, I send the invites. Then I ask the host if this is the easiest party she's ever had and they always say, "YES! I didn't have to do anything!!!!"
 

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Colleen:
Love the form. Thank you. Thinking about using it along with a self addressed stamped envelope to make things even easier for them!!

Question: Do you give them anything else in addition to this letter/form when they book the show? A show planner? A catalog? Some outside order forms? Information on the specials? Or do you just include all of this in their packet?

Thanks!!
 
Colleen,
Do you have problems with people not having Word to open the file? I would love to have it all electronic; I just worry that many people would not have that program on their computers (or maybe not even have a computer!:eek: ).
 
The only thing they get from me when they book is the guest list form. And maybe a host special flyer if I feel like printing one! :)

Everything else is in the host packet. And I e-mail the guest list form anyway in addition to giving them one. More than not, they e-mail it back to me. Some, usually older ladies, fax it to me. I've never had anyone mail it.

Hope that helps! :)
 
rebeccastt said:
Colleen,
Do you have problems with people not having Word to open the file? I would love to have it all electronic; I just worry that many people would not have that program on their computers (or maybe not even have a computer!:eek: ).


Actually, I've never run across anyone who doesn't have word. And even if they use Works, they can still open a word file.

And like I said, if they don't like to use the computer, they can send it to me. Normally that doesn't happen though.

But I'm not picky! I'll take the list any way I can get it! :D
 
Another question for you Colleen....(BTW, I LOVE your form!!)

Since they are emailing the list...do you hand write your invite addresses, or do you cut and paste and print them on stickers? If they snail mail or fax it, then you hand write?

I have been using the sticker guest lists from HO since I HATE hand writing out the addresses!
 
rebeccastt said:
Colleen,
Do you have problems with people not having Word to open the file? I would love to have it all electronic; I just worry that many people would not have that program on their computers (or maybe not even have a computer!:eek: ).

Usually, if there are no graphics, you can open Word documents in WordPad or whatever your computer uses to open that sort of thing.

Here is another guest list form (that I probably got from some other thread on here, but I thought it would be appropriate to have it in this thread too. :rolleyes: )
 

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Great guest list forms! Thanks for sharing!
 
So, Colleen does that mean you mail all of your hostess packets? I have heard numerous people not giving the host packet out until they get the list. I've wanted to try it, however, I'm nervous about the postage to send out the hostess packet ($4.60 pop). Yikes!
 
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Im not Colleen, but I deliver mine if they're close, or mail them priority if they're too far away to drive over...
I've also heard of onsultants that offer a little gift for the hostess if she picks up the host packet from her themselves. Some type of doorprize type gift or something.
 
pamperedpals said:
So, Colleen does that mean you mail all of your hostess packets? I have heard numerous people not giving the host packet out until they get the list. I've wanted to try it, however, I'm nervous about the postage to send out the hostess packet ($4.60 pop). Yikes!
I mail mine if they aren't local and deliver them if they're close enough.

I try to give them the catalogs at the show if they book off a show and that cuts down on the postage quite a bit.
 
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pamperedposey said:
Usually, if there are no graphics, you can open Word documents in WordPad or whatever your computer uses to open that sort of thing.

Here is another guest list form (that I probably got from some other thread on here, but I thought it would be appropriate to have it in this thread too. :rolleyes: )

:eek: I love this! Thanks for sharing! :)
 
Good morning!

Here are the answers to some of your questions for me...

1. I cut and paste from the guest list onto word and I print envelopes. I do a one page flyer for the invitation and the envelope has the host's return address (so if she gives me a bad address it will go to her, not me, and I think that someone is more likely to open something from someone they know vs. me) and then it says diagonally, YOU'RE INVITED! Each envelope is addressed to Mary Smith & Guests.

2. As with Laura and others, I either mail the host packet or deliver it... whichever is easier for me. I don't worry about the $4. If a good number of invitations have gone out, I know the party will be great and I don't mind spending the $4. My show average is about $750 so I'm more than covered with my postage costs. Plus, it's worth it to me if it ensures a successful party.
 
I do about the same:

1. As of the last week in Aug. I will be sending out postcard reminders that a
person booked a party for Oct.
2. I will call them the first week in September to confirm.
3. I then send out a guest list (I have posted it before but can't right now)
4. I give them a bonus...if they return the list to me on time (which is usually 3 weeks befor their party) and have a $ 500 party I will give them $10 of free products for 30 names, $15 for 40 names and $20 for 50 or more names. Again, the party has to be $500, names have to be in on time and the $10 or whatever is not put toward half price or discounted items. (So a $10 is discounted at the % the host earned and then I earn commission and bump up my show average.) And I do enclose a self addressed stamped envelope.
5. I then send out the host packet with a copy of their guest list.
6. I send out the invitations. I do record all information on PP, but do not have time or desire to cold call. The only e-mail addresses I add on to my actual e-mail customer list are ones provided to me by customers at parties. I do ask someone if they mind if I put their name on my e-mail list if they just call me.
7. I have given out guest lists and made up the bonus sheets at a party.

What this has done for me? Increased my sales, reduced cancellations (because if they do not return the guest list to me on time...I call and if they haven't gotten to it...we reschedule the party and I can either book in another party or plan for training). What I pay in sending the invitations is no more than what I may have lost in postage for sending the packet in the past only to have someone cancel. Never see the postage or the paperwork again!

I figure if I can make it easy for the host...she will be greatly rewarded for what little I ask her to do. A win-win situation for me!
 
PS...LOVE Belinda!!! My cluster is in another state and I swear she has been the best training. She compliments ANY business whether you live near or far from your cluster.:balloon:
 
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Yeah it's been really great. Listening to her CD's is one thing, but to hear her live and actually talking to YOU is really awesome. Tonight's call is all about BOOKINGS. :D :)
 
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Ok so I have been doing invites for my hosts for a while. I tell them I do the invites to make their lives easier. I have also startrd not giving a host packet till I have their list.

Here is my current dilema.... I met a gal at the county fair. She wants to book. She actuall emailed me about a date before I got a chance to call her. She is also a recruit lead. She said she will hand out the invites herself because she does not know last names of many she want's to invite. I said OK and am thinking I will do some really awesome host coaching. Any tips? This is the first time this has happened since I have been doing invites.
 
Hey, where do you find the stickers for the invites? Or does anyone have some cute ones? So you dont have to fill out by hand? Also, for theme shows, like Hawiian(ect.) What would you use? Make your own invite? Or use the HO ones, and just put a sticker on them?? Any cute ideas would be great!!!
 
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When I did PC, and used the PC postcard invites, I would use Avery Name Badge labels and do the front that way. Now, I use a downloadable flyer from my company's workstation that makes a really cute invite and we just type in the info before printing. Sometimes with PC, I'd make up cute invite flyers, because I think flyers stand out more than postcards in the mail!
I will use an address label template for the envelopes. Hope that helps! :)
 
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Oh also - you guys have Guest Labels that are carbon copy forms, that I think stick to envelopes... they're on your supply order form for pretty cheap. I prefer to use the email version that was posted above (for free!) :)
 
finley1991 said:
Oh and one more thing. No one gets a host packet from me until I get a guest list. No list... no friends coming... no need for a host packet. I tell them that they'll get everything as soon as I get the list. That way they aren't distracted by trying to choose a recipe and all the other stuff. First and foremost, I want them working on who to invite!

That is a GREAT idea... I have a show next week and I was going to bring host packets... NOT ANYMORE. I'll bring a guest list form and that's it. NO GUEST LIST - NO SHOW! Love it!!
THANKS
 
baychef said:
PS...LOVE Belinda!!! My cluster is in another state and I swear she has been the best training. She compliments ANY business whether you live near or far from your cluster.:balloon:

I agree....she is THE BEST....:D
 

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