April Commission???? Any One Else Not Understand??

[crissy11]

Ok, I thought we were supposed to be counted as directors until July... I sold over $6000 last month and looked on my commission statement and it says I am a director as the title but getting paid as a team leader. So I get cut $181 in commission and no bonus of $10 a person or even the $7.50 a person.
Have I completely read it wrong that they said we would get paid on the higher program whichever one? And that we have until July before we lose directorship?

 

[wadesgirl]

Did you not have enough qualifying team members? They said that you would only get paid on the level you made that month. I'm a team leader but I got paid as a consultant since none of my consultants submitted anything last month.

 

[crissy11]

I thought as directors we would continue until July as a director... that in these months until July we would get paid on which ever plan was more money...

 

[wadesgirl]

I remember them saying something like that, I have no clue though!

 

[BlessedWifeMommy]

Okay so I went and looked. Hope this helps. On the training page for the new career plan, I found this in the Q & A page.Looks like you keep you title of Director, but you get paid as what ever level you qualify for. If you personal sales were over $750, then they do the old calculation.Income Transition * For everyone who is a Director, Advanced Director or Senior Director on April 1:
o In April, May, and June, we will calculate your earnings under the new career plan AND the old plan.
o We will pay you the higher of the two plans, for those three months.
o To be eligible to participate, you must have at least $750 in personal commissionable sales for the month. (This means that a Director is not eligible for an income transition payment during a grace month.)

 

[jwpamp]

You are paid as a Director if you were one before April 1. The difference that you get added shows up on the bottom of the commission statement as "Transition Plan Adjustment".

 

[PampMomof3]

See that's what happened to me. I turned in $5453 and I was paid as a TL (my SC teams didn't have team members submit anything). Although my paycheck is right around what I figured, I did expect it to be more with the production bonuses. That's where its not adding up for me.

I think the transition adjustment may be the 2% - 3% but not sure if the prod bonus is in that as well. I dislike not understanding the paycheck. It's driving me batty!

I also only got reimbursed $100 for the conference instead of the full $200. Maybe I'll see the other $100 on my next check.

I have a call into PC Financial so we'll see what happens!

 

[crissy11]

I have been a director for 10 years and have figured my check up both plans and am getting $181 less. Even with their transition pay added.. Imagine if I didn't get that how much less my check would have been.. over $400...
My whole question was.... were we not supposed to get paid on whichever was higher until July?????

 

[ChefBeckyD]

See that's what happened to me. I turned in $5453 and I was paid as a TL (my SC teams didn't have team members submit anything). Although my paycheck is right around what I figured, I did expect it to be more with the production bonuses. That's where its not adding up for me.

I think the transition adjustment may be the 2% - 3% but not sure if the prod bonus is in that as well. I dislike not understanding the paycheck. It's driving me batty!

I also only got reimbursed $100 for the conference instead of the full $200. Maybe I'll see the other $100 on my next check.

I have a call into PC Financial so we'll see what happens!

I earned half-price conference, but didn't get reimbursed at all. I sent an email to Financial Services this morning questioning why some people were reimbursed, but others weren't.

 

[pcsharon1]

See that's what happened to me. I turned in $5453 and I was paid as a TL (my SC teams didn't have team members submit anything). Although my paycheck is right around what I figured, I did expect it to be more with the production bonuses. That's where its not adding up for me.

I think the transition adjustment may be the 2% - 3% but not sure if the prod bonus is in that as well. I dislike not understanding the paycheck. It's driving me batty!

I also only got reimbursed $100 for the conference instead of the full $200. Maybe I'll see the other $100 on my next check.
I have a call into PC Financial so we'll see what happens!

I thought to earn free conference you had to submit $6000?

 

[ChefBeckyD]

I thought to earn free conference you had to submit $6000?

Nope - it was $2500 for 1/2 price, and $5000 for free. I went and checked because I thought maybe I had the amounts wrong for mine. I submitted over $2800, and didn't get reimbursed for 1/2 price. (and yes, it was all April sales.)

 

[chefsteph07]

I also had a consultant qualify in March for the promo w/ double bonuses...instead of $25, it was to be $50, etc. I got the $25 for her qualifying under commission, but under the deductions it also shows March Bonus -$25.00. WTF!

 

[crissy11]

This is too much changing every month for them to get our checks correct.. This is going to be a huge mess from now on.... If they can't get their shipping right what makes them think the people in finance are going to get this right monthly... I also earned free conference and had $100 in conference club that I requested the refund and they emailed me and said it would be on this check.. nothing!!!
I need my money each paycheck not when they get their system right...

 

[chefsteph07]

I agree it is too much changing...paid as director one month, TL the next..how do you keep track?

Finance can't even return a call, I'm not surprised they got our pays wrong too...

 

[crissy11]

My Senior Director who has been with the company for 16years went back down to Consultant this month with this new plan.. She lost all overrides and lost out on $3000 in pay.... She turned in $900 and realized she needed another $350 to have her $1250 in sales so she got a show closed and turned it in and since it was 16 seconds after midnight they declined it for April and it went in on May.... Since when does their clocks count seconds??
She lost one director because of that and that director went straight to the top to the NED....
I really hope all of these top NED's are experiencing some of the pains of the new program.. They are the only ones who will get this re-evaluated.

 

[ChefBeckyD]

My Senior Director who has been with the company for 16years went back down to Consultant this month with this new plan.. She lost all overrides and lost out on $3000 in pay.... She turned in $900 and realized she needed another $350 to have her $1250 in sales so she got a show closed and turned it in and since it was 16 seconds after midnight they declined it for April and it went in on May.... Since when does their clocks count seconds??
She lost one director because of that and that director went straight to the top to the NED....
I really hope all of these top NED's are experiencing some of the pains of the new program.. They are the only ones who will get this re-evaluated.

??? My understanding was that all directors and above had a grace period before they lost their status? I'm positive that is the case, so I'm not sure how she would have "lost" anyone.

I'm GLAD that some of these upper level directors may be feeling the pinch, though. I know of at least one Sr. Director who does absolutely nothing except the bare minimums to remain active, but because her "first line" consists of people who have promoted above her, she makes thousands of $$ a month.

 

[pamperedlinda]

My Senior Director who has been with the company for 16years went back down to Consultant this month with this new plan.. She lost all overrides and lost out on $3000 in pay.... She turned in $900 and realized she needed another $350 to have her $1250 in sales so she got a show closed and turned it in and since it was 16 seconds after midnight they declined it for April and it went in on May.... Since when does their clocks count seconds??
She lost one director because of that and that director went straight to the top to the NED....
I really hope all of these top NED's are experiencing some of the pains of the new program.. They are the only ones who will get this re-evaluated.

I think that there must be more to this story than has reached your ears - no offense on you. Anyone who has been with the company for 16 years and has reached the SD status should have had a much better handle on her own business and her team stats and known way in advance what was going to happen to her month. and, unless she just had a bad month should have had way more than $900 in sales to turn in.

And, through July, all directors will be paid on whichever plan is higher ($$) for a 'transition period' to help us build out teams. That being said, if she had maintained the quotas necessary for the old plan then she would have been paid by the old plan if that is the one that would have paid her higher.

 

[crissy11]

We have the title of director or whatever but we lost all of our overrides.. I have been a director for 10 years and in April I kept the title director but got paid as a Team Leader... I lost $181 in commission because I didn't get the 3% overrides plus I didn't get the production bonus.
What they said on paper is not what they are doing to our checks at this point.. We were supposed to get paid until July whichever was more in either program.. That didn't happen..

 

[pamperedlinda]

Don't you have a line on your commission statement that says "Transition Plan Adjustment Payment" ?

It's in the summary section on the bottom.

 

[pamperedlinda]

I do hope that they give us a break-down of how they figured the "Transition Plan Adjustment Payment" though. My paycheck was w/in $12 of what I figured it would be.

 

[crissy11]

When I figured it the old way versus the new way... I got paid $181 less.

 

[chefann]

We have the title of director or whatever but we lost all of our overrides.. I have been a director for 10 years and in April I kept the title director but got paid as a Team Leader... I lost $181 in commission because I didn't get the 3% overrides plus I didn't get the production bonus.
What they said on paper is not what they are doing to our checks at this point.. We were supposed to get paid until July whichever was more in either program.. That didn't happen..

If you were paid as a Team Leader, it's because your performance for April was at the Team Leader level, not at the Director level. Even with the "paid using the higher program" clause, one had to actually perform as a Director in order to get that pay.

 

[newchefmommy]

How do you even check what your commission is?

 

[chefann]

On Consultant's Corner, there's a link in the right column to "my commission."

 

[crissy11]

I turned in $6000 in sales, my 8 active consultants turned in $6000 in sales.. The only thing that I didn't do as a director was have 2 senior consultants but that is under the new plan... and remember this is the transition time between April and June.... whichever plan pays you more... not the case here and in alot of other consultants that I have talked with.
That is what we are trying to understand....

 

[chefann]

I turned in $6000 in sales, my 8 active consultants turned in $6000 in sales.. The only thing that I didn't do as a director was have 2 senior consultants but that is under the new plan... and remember this is the transition time between April and June.... whichever plan pays you more... not the case here and in alot of other consultants that I have talked with.
That is what we are trying to understand....

I was of the understanding that the only part of the old plan that would apply was the actual pay computations. The REQUIREMENTS for being paid as a Director would follow the new plan.

 

[pamperedlinda]

I was of the understanding that the only part of the old plan that would apply was the actual pay computations. The REQUIREMENTS for being paid as a Director would follow the new plan.

It's very confusing - I'm not sure. In talking to my SED, we thought it was either/or during the transition.

 

[crissy11]

That is what I am trying to figure out... What page is that on???

 

[pamperedlinda]

I turned in $6000 in sales, my 8 active consultants turned in $6000 in sales.. The only thing that I didn't do as a director was have 2 senior consultants but that is under the new plan... and remember this is the transition time between April and June.... whichever plan pays you more... not the case here and in alot of other consultants that I have talked with.
That is what we are trying to understand....

hmmm - I'm confused for you too. I did not have 2 SC and I had my worst month this year in April. I didn't do all the math, but when I guestimated my pay, I was only a few $$ off. I hope HO gives us more explanation.

 

[Drew]

I know the situation concerning the upline who lost a director in her line. She is an excellent SD and is very on top of her business.She has relocated her business 4 times in the past year and never asked for a grace month. When she needed it she found out that you must request it by the 25th of the month. Do you always know when your host will lose a relative and not be able to close her show? Or her child is admitted into the hospital and she is unable to have her show? Those are just things that happen in this business. I wouldn't think that she had just allowed it to happen because she wasn't doing her job.