What is Catsup? Answering the Age-Old Question

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Discussion Overview

The thread explores the topic of catsup, also known as ketchup, discussing its definition, uses, and variations in terminology across different regions. Participants share their personal experiences with ketchup and related condiments, as well as cultural differences in food terminology.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the meaning of "catsup," prompting others to clarify that it refers to ketchup, commonly used as a condiment.
  • Another participant shares that in Ireland, catsup is referred to as tomato sauce, and discusses the differences in terminology between the UK and the US.
  • Several users mention their personal preferences for ketchup brands, with one participant identifying as a ketchup enthusiast who prefers Heinz.
  • One participant humorously notes that ketchup can be used on various foods, including unconventional choices like eggs and roast beef.
  • Another participant describes the differences between ketchup, tomato sauce, and tomato paste, emphasizing their distinct uses in cooking.
  • Some participants discuss the cultural variations in food terminology, such as the use of "chips" for french fries in the UK.
  • One participant expresses a preference for mayonnaise and ranch dressing over ketchup, sharing their unique dipping choices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the appropriate uses of ketchup, with some participants expressing strong preferences for certain foods while others share contrasting opinions. There is no clear consensus on the best way to use ketchup or the terminology surrounding it.

Contextual Notes

Participants share experiences from various cultural backgrounds, highlighting the differences in food terminology and preferences between the US and the UK. The discussion reflects a blend of personal anecdotes and cultural observations.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the cultural aspects of food terminology and personal experiences with condiments may find this discussion engaging.

babyicebean
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Whats catsup?
 
Ketchup, you know Heinz brand? red, tomato, ... you put on hamburgers, hot dogs
 
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Oh.....wondered but wasn't sure.

Can you buy the butter in sticks?How heavy is a stick?

Don't sell things like that in the uk - butter yes but in blocks
 
1 stick = 1/4 lb or 8 tablespoons

Hope that helps
 
Catsup is Tomato Sauce - you know the red stuff on chips? (instead of vinegar) - hope that helps -

(dh is from Ireland - thats how I know!)
 
If you find that you're really behind in a race, you can run a lot faster and when you start to gain on the leader, you ketchup.
 
Oh KG!!!! LOL!! Give 'em a break, they are new here!!!
 
Might as well break 'em in right away. :DOkay, when you go to the grocery store, you're gonna be faced with a whole lot of choices.Tomato catsup (or ketchup, pronounced the same in most regions of the country) is a condiment. You apply it to hamburgers and such, some people like it on french fries or other types of potatoes. Purists shudder when you put it on hot dogs but it's a free country, put it on what you like. My father put it on eggs.Tomato paste is made from tomatoes, the seeds and skin have been removed and it is very thick. It's used to thicken tomato sauces and other dishes as the recipe calls for.Tomato sauce is a tomato puree, typically used in cooking according to recipes but it's not to be confused with...Tomato sauce, usually mixed with spices and used in Italian cooking over pasta, pizza, and the like.Then there's barbeque sauce, and that's another whole topic.
 
Oh, one more thing...if your a ketchup enthusiast, you're going to like Heinz about the best. Hunt's is acceptable in a pinch. Store brands are generics and are...awful.In Germany, they sell ketchup with curry in it, that you can't get here. :(
 
Had no idea you were a KETCHUP enthusiast, KG. What do you eat it on?

I ask because I have a friend who eats it on everyhting. Literally, everything. His mother made him homemade chicken n' dumplins when he had the flu a few years back and he put ketchup in it! :eek::yuck::cry::confused:
 
ragschef said:
Had no idea you were a KETCHUP enthusiast, KG. What do you eat it on?

I ask because I have a friend who eats it on everyhting. Literally, everything. His mother made him homemade chicken n' dumplins when he had the flu a few years back and he put ketchup in it! :eek::yuck::cry::confused:

My brother was like this when he was a kid. Wouldn't eat anything UNLESS it was drenched in ketchup!! I like to think he's matured a bit since then, but he still does dip his roast beef in ketchup!
 
I eat fries so I can have ketchup. I do not like any kind except Heinz. My dad also puts ketchup on his eggs. He puts Heinz 57 on his spaghetti. Yuck!
 
vwpamperedchef said:
My brother was like this when he was a kid. Wouldn't eat anything UNLESS it was drenched in ketchup!! I like to think he's matured a bit since then, but he still does dip his roast beef in ketchup!

Sorry to hijack but I have to have ketchup on my roast beef! Makes it so much better.
 
[shudder] Ketchup on roast beef? [/shudder]That's why they invented Worchestershire Suace. (Can anyone explain to me how "Worchester" comes out "Wooster"?)ETA: Yeah, I know. Purists will say it's "Worcester" but both spellings seem to be acceptable these days.)And also ETA, Lea & Perrins is the best Worcestershire Sauce.
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babyicebean said:
Oh.....wondered but wasn't sure.

Can you buy the butter in sticks?How heavy is a stick?

Don't sell things like that in the uk - butter yes but in blocks

Yes, butter comes in sticks, 4 in a pound. You can still find it in one pound blocks in some places but it's getting rare.
 
I don't eat ketchup. It's mayo or Ranch on anything and everything. That's my dippers. I especially LOVE to dip my FRIES IN MAYO! I also like to dip my fries in the Vanilla Frosty from Wendys. Now that's a true sweet potato!
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
Yes, butter comes in sticks, 4 in a pound. You can still find it in one pound blocks in some places but it's getting rare.

Costco carries the 1 lb. blocks. ;)
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
[shudder] Ketchup on roast beef? [/shudder]

That's why they invented Worchestershire Suace.

(Can anyone explain to me how "Worchester" comes out "Wooster"?)

ETA: Yeah, I know. Purists will say it's "Worcester" but both spellings seem to be acceptable these days.)

And also ETA, Lea & Perrins is the best Worcestershire Sauce.

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He He - isn't it SAUCE not SUACE??? LOL!!!
 
And FYI - in Ireland they call Catsup (ketchup) Tomato sauce, Chips are french fries (Unless you get them at a McDonalds then they are fries) the bin is garbage pail, etc - the list is endless -

So to answer the original question - when the poster goes to the market for "messages" they will want tomato sauce (ketchup) for the recipe..
 
KG's been hitting the sauce today. http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/chefann1138/smilies/slider_winesmiley.gif http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/chefann1138/smilies/oregonian_beersmiley1.gif http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb315/chefann1138/smilies/oregonian_martini.gif :D
 
chefann said:
Costco carries the 1 lb. blocks. ;)
Sams carries the one pound blocks of butter, too.
 
I heard recently that in the U.S. our labels say TOMATO ketchup because in other places in the world there is a huge variety of types/flavors.
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
That's why they invented Worchestershire Suace.

(Can anyone explain to me how "Worchester" comes out "Wooster"?)

ETA: Yeah, I know. Purists will say it's "Worcester" but both spellings seem to be acceptable these days.)

And also ETA, Lea & Perrins is the best Worcestershire Sauce.

Umm, my 2 cents... As a Brit, both spellings are NOT acceptable!! Worcester is a town, the county town of the county Worcestershire (Like York and Yorkshire). Don't ask me why it is pronounced Wooster, it probably happened hundreds of years ago, and I have no idea... it is an odd one...

But KG, your descriptions of the various tomato-y products should be helpful to her. In England there is no equivalent to the Tomato sauce you get over here. We have ketchup (called ketchup as well as tomato sauce!), tomato puree, and canned (tinned) tomatoes, but that's it. It took me a while to figure out what tomato sauce was! I thought it must be just a thinner version of tomato puree... Didn't realise for ages that it was seasoned!!

In the UK, Butter is sold in 1/2 pound blocks that are about the same size as 2 sticks next to each other. A Brit will have no concept as to what a "stick" of butter is!

Oh, and flour in baking is almost always SR - short for Self Raising Flour (of course over here that would be self rising!). We hardly ever use baking soda, mostly baking powder if necessary (which isn't often, because of the SR flour...). It's funny how different it is... Coming over here I had to get used to recipes made with "All purpose" flour (we call it plain flour) as well as using cups for everything...

Recipes are always made by weight, in ounces, eg for a Victoria Sponge cake, take 4oz each of SR flour, sugar, butter and 4 eggs. Nice and easy. And hardly anyone uses cake mixes!

I'm always really curious as to what the PC recipes are like in the UK!! Our ones are VERY American! (or maybe I should say North American :)).
 
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PamperedDor said:
And FYI - in Ireland they call Catsup (ketchup) Tomato sauce, Chips are french fries (Unless you get them at a McDonalds then they are fries) the bin is garbage pail, etc - the list is endless - So to answer the original question - when the poster goes to the market for "messages" they will want tomato sauce (ketchup) for the recipe..
We're two countries separated by a common language.If a recipe calls for "tomato sauce," look for canned tomato sauce. Ketchup is something different, it is a condiment and is meant to spread. It contains spices and other ingredients (like vinegar) that you probably don't want in your recipe.Click on the image for more info.
http://www.contadina.com/Products.htmThe http://www.contadina.com/Products.htm tells you all about their tomato based products.
 
cookingwith_tara said:
I don't eat ketchup. It's mayo or Ranch on anything and everything. That's my dippers. I especially LOVE to dip my FRIES IN MAYO! I also like to dip my fries in the Vanilla Frosty from Wendys. Now that's a true sweet potato!
I'm with you Tara,
Mayo or Ranch dressing is the only way to go!!

The ONLY time I will eat ketchup is on onion rings....but not fries...mayo is the best!
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
Oh, one more thing...if your a ketchup enthusiast, you're going to like Heinz about the best. Hunt's is acceptable in a pinch. Store brands are generics and are...awful.

In Germany, they sell ketchup with curry in it, that you can't get here. :(

Heinz is the best!
 
Out in Utah (where I went to college), they sell butter in cubes, not sticks. That took some getting used to. (It wouldn't fit right on butter dishes, because they were wider and shorter.) Out there is where I learned about fry sauce. Now that's the best! It's like ketchup and mayo mixed together. McDonald's out there even had manufactured little packets of it that you could get. They don't have them anymore though. But many hamburger joints have containers of fry sauce that you can pump into little cups and use to dip your fries. Here in PA, some places serve vinegar to put on your fries.
 
AnnieBee said:
Recipes are always made by weight, in ounces, eg for a Victoria Sponge cake, take 4oz each of SR flour, sugar, butter and 4 eggs. Nice and easy. And hardly anyone uses cake mixes!

I'm always really curious as to what the PC recipes are like in the UK!! Our ones are VERY American! (or maybe I should say North American :)).

Using weight, especially for flour, is more exact than a volume measurement. Flour has a tendency to compress when scooped, resulting in over-measurement. And that can cause lots of problems in baking.
 
The_Kitchen_Guy said:
[shudder] Ketchup on roast beef? [/shudder]
Blah, blah, blah!

The_Kitchen_Guy said:
Yes, butter comes in sticks, 4 in a pound. You can still find it in one pound blocks in some places but it's getting rare.
Fareway still sells both, that is usually where we get our butter, it's cheaper and better than anything else out there.
 
Kinda like mayo on french fries.What's that sound I hear? Oh, that's Tara's and Deb's arteries slamming shut.
 

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