Unbelievable PC Violation: Shocking Blog Exposes Plagiarized Content

[pcchefjane]

It's not that we were "talking about you" but discussing the best way to go about it. There was another lady who blantantly posted recipes on her recipe site, put down PC for their policies, and any of us who tried to tell her she was wrong got blasted on her board. She had a bunch of people very negative about PC over it and called us some very ugly names. I went on your blog and I guess I am not blog savvy enough to figure out how to find out the "contact me" place on there. As you can see, we elected to contact you and not report it to PC because it seemed very innocent. Good luck with your biz! Maybe those that post to your blog can become your "contact list" for now so they can help out!

 

[etteluap70PC]

Ashley, Welcome to the board! Good for you for taking action. I am glad you took the email from whomever contacted you as a helpful note. There are many who have attempted to do that with others in your situation and it did not have the same result. Some of us have been seriously insulted and treated badly by those we have tried to "help". Sory if we get a bit defensive.

Again welcome!

 

[vwpamperedchef]

I sent her an email and she said thank you for emailing her, I am sure there were a few of you who did also. She did remove her posts about PC

That was so nice of you---I wish people would consider what you did instead of being hasty and reporting people. It is so unnerving that instead of HELPING a fellow consultant, many people on this site turn in the violators.

I am so glad to read what you wrote and did, because that was kind.:thumbup:

 

[Jennie4PC]

Thank you I really appreciate that.

 

[noelskitchen]

Okay...I just wanted to come on here and apologize! I did not know!!! I would never do this intentionally. I really appreciate all of you who were nice and emailed me to let me know. And as some of you pointed out it is in the rules and I should have read more into them...but I am NOT perfect. The information you get when you first sign up is very overwhelming and I not only do PC but have a full time job and a one year old...although I am sure you all saw his blog by now. Yes of course I wanted to find out everything I could about the biz to be successful but I obviously missed this! Again...I am sorry...as Kelly pointed out, there really was only so much I could read through and figure out b/t job/child/qualifing/ext. I do think that in the future if any of you see something like this again...just contact the person first and let them know...instead of going on here and posting about it. It definetly is a lot more supportive and alot nicer to get one kind email from someone telling you the rules instead of finding out there is a board discussing what you did wrong when you were unaware. I like getting feedback so that I can better myself/my biz., but there are better ways then posting a thread and putting a link to my sons blog to point out my mistake. Once again thank you all for leting me know this. I honetly did not know and would never have posted a link had I known. I have since taken down the link and called my director so I could discuss this situation and hope that she will inform others in our group so they don't make the same mistake as me since we just got alot of new recuits.
I will definetly make sure to go over things more and read more carefully so I don't make another mistake because this was quite embarrasing!
Sorry again and thanks to all who emailed me and were so nice!
-Ashley

Ashley,

My post was never meant to embarass you in any way. I apologize if it did. HO should really let new consultant know what the policies and procedures are right away and clearly explain them. Because as you said, it is very overwhelming when you first start. Good luck in your business and welcome to CS. There are a lot of good people hear and much helpful resources to help you in your business.

 

[Cindycooks]

Ashley - welcome and I wish you much success!

Now tell me this - there is a DIRECTOR in my cluster with links on her facebook as well as periodic status updates that just "happen" to mention the company - and today a "thank you to Pampered Chef for pampering her so well in Mexico". I have reported this twice to HO within the past month. I dont dare bring this up with her personally. I could go to HER Director, but they may take it wrong, that I'm tattling.....

I know that this girl knows that this is a violation - which is one reason she has NOT invited me to be her friend on f/b.

 

[ahunt415]

Thanks for all your welcomes!

 

[Chef Kearns]

Ashley - welcome and I wish you much success!

Now tell me this - there is a DIRECTOR in my cluster with links on her facebook as well as periodic status updates that just "happen" to mention the company - and today a "thank you to Pampered Chef for pampering her so well in Mexico". I have reported this twice to HO within the past month. I dont dare bring this up with her personally. I could go to HER Director, but they may take it wrong, that I'm tattling.....

I know that this girl knows that this is a violation - which is one reason she has NOT invited me to be her friend on f/b.

Cindy, you really should speak to her if you have a problem with her or her actions. Otherwise it is just tattling.

 

[chefsteph07]

Cindy, you really should speak to her if you have a problem with her or her actions. Otherwise it is just tattling.

I agree, and I would approach it out of concern for HER, that she doesn't get reported or something happen w/ her status. After you address it, whatever happens afterward is out of your control.

 

[PamperedChefDebi]

Ashley - welcome and I wish you much success!

Now tell me this - there is a DIRECTOR in my cluster with links on her facebook as well as periodic status updates that just "happen" to mention the company - and today a "thank you to Pampered Chef for pampering her so well in Mexico". I have reported this twice to HO within the past month. I dont dare bring this up with her personally. I could go to HER Director, but they may take it wrong, that I'm tattling.....

I know that this girl knows that this is a violation - which is one reason she has NOT invited me to be her friend on f/b.

All she needs to do is adjust her settings on Facebook to reflect "Friends only" so no one EXCEPT her friends can see her page. This keeps her page private and, therefore, in compliance. Perhaps you could suggest that?

 

[pcchefjane]

It is not in compliance even if it is private. HO has ruled that unacceptable because it is still posted on the internet.

 

[babywings76]

It is not in compliance even if it is private. HO has ruled that unacceptable because it is still posted on the internet.

Right. Even though it's private, it's still somewhere on the internet and they don't approve of that. That's another reason why we can't even mention it on our "private" blogs.

 

[PamperedChefDebi]

It is not in compliance even if it is private. HO has ruled that unacceptable because it is still posted on the internet.

I don't agree with that. I feel that if it is private, and therefore not viewable to anyone but her friends, then it is fine.

I certainly hope all of us would be spending our time on our businesses and not on policing and reporting one another.

 

[etteluap70PC]

the reasons others are pointing tis out is because people have gotten reported and in troubble even if they are set to private. Sometimes we really do n ot know all the people we call "friends" on the networking sites as well as we think we do. ASk Lacey... she will tell you all about it.

Right or wrong / agree or dissagree it is the policy

 

[candiejayne]

Right or wrong / agree or dissagree it is the policy

I agree with this statement. It doesn't matter if we agree or not, we are not the ones that made the policy, we are just suppose to follow them. I do believe right in the policy it mentions either Facebook or Myspace specifically.

 

[PamperedChefDebi]

I agree with this statement. It doesn't matter if we agree or not, we are not the ones that made the policy, we are just suppose to follow them. I do believe right in the policy it mentions either Facebook or Myspace specifically.

Well, let me clarify on one thing, I meant I don't agree with that interpretation of the policy. The way I stated that wasn't clear. Sorry about that! I believe in these electronic ages, we have to apply some common sense and be clear on the spirit of the policy. There are so many ins and outs these days that it would probably be impossible for them to include every nuance.

And actually, the policy doesn't mention Facebook or MySpace. You may be thinking of the PC NewsWires that mentioned them in relation to the videos.

 

[armywife_consultant]

alot of consultants just dont realize. i honestly do not see the harm in posting your business in your blog. were aloud to call people and get business that way... its communication just as posting online is communication.....

also if were not aloud to have anything onine concerning pc.... how come people who decide to take time off from pc sell their left over supplies on CS??? isnt that a violation as well????????????

 

[chefsteph07]

I don't agree with that. I feel that if it is private, and therefore not viewable to anyone but her friends, then it is fine.

I certainly hope all of us would be spending our time on our businesses and not on policing and reporting one another.

I completely agree w/ this bottom statment. I think it's getting a little ridiculous all the "violations" that are being posted on here.

And yes, I agree that the policy is the policy, not even saying anything about that, but it seems an awful lot of us are going out of our way to find violations and report them here.

 

[etteluap70PC]

alot of consultants just dont realize. i honestly do not see the harm in posting your business in your blog. were aloud to call people and get business that way... its communication just as posting online is communication.....

also if were not aloud to have anything onine concerning pc.... how come people who decide to take time off from pc sell their left over supplies on CS??? isnt that a violation as well????????????

The way I have come to understand the no online advertising policy is that PC want's to keep the business even for everyone. Everyone who joins has the same potential as anyone else. Some are fortunate enough to have computers and access to the internet. There are still many today who do not have these opportunities. Everyone (or almost everyone) has a phone and that is where the personal part of our business comes into play. Also most of us that have been in the biz a while will tell you that getting on the phone or talking to people oin person is truly the #1 way to grow your biz anyway.

 

[armywife_consultant]

I completely agree w/ this bottom statment. I think it's getting a little ridiculous all the "violations" that are being posted on here.

And yes, I agree that the policy is the policy, not even saying anything about that, but it seems an awful lot of us are going out of our way to find violations and report them here.

that is how i feel exactly... home office didnt hire consultants to tattle on other consultants. it is their job to find violations and take care of them... leave it alone doesnt anyone have anything better to do like maybe look for business possible shows or future consultants?

 

[etteluap70PC]

I completely agree w/ this bottom statment. I think it's getting a little ridiculous all the "violations" that are being posted on here.

And yes, I agree that the policy is the policy, not even saying anything about that, but it seems an awful lot of us are going out of our way to find violations and report them here.

Yes this topic goes in spurts. Usually it is the worst when new products are announced.

If you notice it is not the smae people posting the violations. Usually it is someone newer to the site and runs accross something that boggles their mind since they know the rules.

I admit I was shocked at my last cluster meeting when I mentioned about not posting online. All of the older "been arround a while" consultants / directors had no idea they could not put "Pampered Chef" in their profile or list their website. I was shocked! My own Director has it on her facebook page but as we have a funny relationship I just ignore it.

 

[chefsteph07]

that is how i feel exactly... home office didnt hire consultants to tattle on other consultants. it is their job to find violations and take care of them... leave it alone doesnt anyone have anything better to do like maybe look for business possible shows or future consultants?

That's what I thought too...half of this board has posted lately about not being to find bookings...or low sales...you aren't going to get them by looking for others blogs and reading them over to look for violations...

Why does anyone even want to do that anyway? Seems a bit immature.

 

[chefsteph07]

Yes this topic goes in spurts. Usually it is the worst when new products are announced.

If you notice it is not the smae people posting the violations. Usually it is someone newer to the site and runs accross something that boggles their mind since they know the rules.

I admit I was shocked at my last cluster meeting when I mentioned about not posting online. All of the older "been arround a while" consultants / directors had no idea they could not put "Pampered Chef" in their profile or list their website. I was shocked! My own Director has it on her facebook page but as we have a funny relationship I just ignore it.

I think it's best rather than report anything here, why not just contact the person directly and let them know? Then if you get the response like others had with THE OTHER BLOG (you all should know what I"m talking about), then call HO on it.

 

[etteluap70PC]

If you heard the nasty things that have be said to people trying to "help" educate the "Assumed unknowing" new consultant then you would understand whay many reccomend just reporting them. I cannot even describe the insults I have see in response to someone trying to be helpful.

It is all part of why I love PC. You can deal with things the way you like and I can do things my way. As long as they are within guidelines then have at it.

 

[PamperedChefDebi]

that's what i thought too...half of this board has posted lately about not being to find bookings...or low sales...you aren't going to get them by looking for others blogs and reading them over to look for violations...Why does anyone even want to do that anyway? Seems a bit immature.

Amen sister!!!

 

[jessicafawn]

I've tried being "helpful" and letting several people know they're violating policy but have gotten nothing but nastiness in return. So I'm done being nice at this point... I never wish ill to people but some of these people really just tick me off...

 

[mrshamel3808]

Ok, I have a question...

In the P&P under "Your Title/Identification" it says

Except as otherwise provided in these policies, it is inappropriate to use The Pampered Chef corporate name, the tagline, any trademark used by the Company or any derivation of such, for instance, "pamper," "pampered," "chef," "discover," "in you," etc. as part of an e-mail address or domain name

But I've seen alot of consultants with "pampered," "pamper," or "chef" in their e-mail addresses and/or PWS domain name. So are those violations as well?

 

[chefann]

But I've seen alot of consultants with "pampered," "pamper," or "chef" in their e-mail addresses and/or PWS domain name. So are those violations as well?

Those consultants probably got PWS addresses before that clause was added and were grandfathered. When PWS were first available, HO discovered that some consultants got PWS addresses that made it look like their page was part of the corporate site, and were getting thousands of dollars in random online orders because of it. So about a year after the sites were made available, they changed the rules about the personalized portion. Same with email addresses.

 

[mrshamel3808]

That's really confusing, how do you know when someone's just grandfathered in and when they're a new offender? I mean, obviously HO would know, but other consultants might see all the people with "chef" or "pampered" in their e-mail addresses and create one and sign up or something. Would HO not let you continue til you used a different address? I think they should mention in the P&P that if you see others with it in their e-mail address they are part of the grandfather clause.