Not Trying to Start a Fight, But... Re: Facebook

[chefsteph07]

My biggest complaint is with people who make it their business to search out other consultants only to report them to HO without giving them an opportunity to correct the mistake themselves. Get a life people!! Yes, there are people breaking the rules. There always will be. Just do your own business to the best of your ability and let HO police their consultants. That is their business!

I completely agree with this. It really gets under my skin when people will do searches or even (as I have heard) report their facebook "friends" who are consultants. You are absolutely right, GET A LIFE. I have found that the ones who are policing other consultants are the ones who are complaining that they can't get any shows. Maybe if they worried more about their business instead of what others are doing, they would have more shows.
HO has a job. Let them deal with it.

 

[dannyzmom]

I completely agree with this. It really gets under my skin when people will do searches or even (as I have heard) report their facebook "friends" who are consultants. You are absolutely right, GET A LIFE. I have found that the ones who are policing other consultants are the ones who are complaining that they can't get any shows. Maybe if they worried more about their business instead of what others are doing, they would have more shows.
HO has a job. Let them deal with it.

Very well said. I have always noticed here on CS that the people who are always complaining about being unable to get shows booked are the same people constantly pulling up Ebay PC sellers, FB posters, etc - - if you FOCUS on YOUR business...you will be successful. Trolling the web looking for violations is a TIME WASTER...time you could be spending making CC calls. HO has a department of employees dedicated to dealing with policy violators. Let them do their job...and you do your job.

 

[beckyjsmith]

Very well said. I have always noticed here on CS that the people who are always complaining about being unable to get shows booked are the same people constantly pulling up Ebay PC sellers, FB posters, etc - - if you FOCUS on YOUR business...you will be successful. Trolling the web looking for violations is a TIME WASTER...time you could be spending making CC calls. HO has a department of employees dedicated to dealing with policy violators. Let them do their job...and you do your job.

And the sister said....


AMEN GIRLFRIEND!!! I couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[DebbieJ]

I completely agree with this. It really gets under my skin when people will do searches or even (as I have heard) report their facebook "friends" who are consultants. You are absolutely right, GET A LIFE. I have found that the ones who are policing other consultants are the ones who are complaining that they can't get any shows. Maybe if they worried more about their business instead of what others are doing, they would have more shows.
HO has a job. Let them deal with it.

Very well said. I have always noticed here on CS that the people who are always complaining about being unable to get shows booked are the same people constantly pulling up Ebay PC sellers, FB posters, etc - - if you FOCUS on YOUR business...you will be successful. Trolling the web looking for violations is a TIME WASTER...time you could be spending making CC calls. HO has a department of employees dedicated to dealing with policy violators. Let them do their job...and you do your job.

And the sister said....


AMEN GIRLFRIEND!!! I couldn't have said it better myself.

Let me add another AMEN!

 

[pamperedlinda]

Let me add another AMEN!

ditto :thumbup:

 

[pampered1224]

You know I had an interesting conversation with a marketing person the other day. Yes, I do have friends that are actually worth a ton of money and have brains to boot! But she mentioned something I had not though of before. Over Marketing. She said that it has happened to other companies where there are many distributors of the same product line. She used Macy's, Boston Store and Crate and Barrel as an example. If Macy's carries say a Specific Crock pot they can sell a ton but they only advertise it in store. (Like we do at are parties.) Now if the public learns that Boston Store and Crate & Barrel sell the same crock pot, competition now becomes more prevalent and people will go to whomever strikes their fancy. Meaning a store they are closer too or one that just looks better to them. People are fickle. This now diminishes the profits for Macy's. So if we each advertise our businesses on the web instead of to our select group of "clients", all the people we were hoping to target and sell too are now also being targeted by 1000s of other consultants. Not just the ones at our shows or we talk to. Thus it diminishes our possibilities of a sale. It also means we will have to do even more bribing to get those hosts and orders. Can we afford that?

 

[raebates]

Good point, John. One thing I always try to remember is that it is in the HO's best interest to help me be successful. After all, their jobs rely on my sales, our sales. They are in the business of helping us succeed.

 

[dannyzmom]

Good point, John. One thing I always try to remember is that it is in the HO's best interest to help me be successful. After all, their jobs rely on my sales, our sales. They are in the business of helping us succeed.

Amen Rae!! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

[Chef Kearns]

You know I had an interesting conversation with a marketing person the other day. Yes, I do have friends that are actually worth a ton of money and have brains to boot! But she mentioned something I had not though of before. Over Marketing. She said that it has happened to other companies where there are many distributors of the same product line. She used Macy's, Boston Store and Crate and Barrel as an example. If Macy's carries say a Specific Crock pot they can sell a ton but they only advertise it in store. (Like we do at are parties.) Now if the public learns that Boston Store and Crate & Barrel sell the same crock pot, competition now becomes more prevalent and people will go to whomever strikes their fancy. Meaning a store they are closer too or one that just looks better to them. People are fickle. This now diminishes the profits for Macy's. So if we each advertise our businesses on the web instead of to our select group of "clients", all the people we were hoping to target and sell too are now also being targeted by 1000s of other consultants. Not just the ones at our shows or we talk to. Thus it diminishes our possibilities of a sale. It also means we will have to do even more bribing to get those hosts and orders. Can we afford that?

Do we not have this already? Most people who know one consultant know at least 2. Which one do they choose to work with? The one they have a personal relationship to, the one that gives them the hook up, the one that doesn't mind delivering products from time to time. We don't have boundaries, but we do have competition.

Advertising on the web scares me a little because I am not tech savvy. I wouldn't know the first thing about giving myself a dominant/prominent web presence. That being said, Social Networking is a different beast. We are connecting to people we already know. Talking on Facebook is like sending a mass email to your contact list. Your message doesn't get sent to people who don't already know you unless a friend copy and pastes your message. And that cannot be controlled. We shouldn't be penalized for someone trying to help us out and posting our websites and information for their friends to see.

 

[chefsteph07]

Do we not have this already? Most people who know one consultant know at least 2. Which one do they choose to work with? The one they have a personal relationship to, the one that gives them the hook up, the one that doesn't mind delivering products from time to time. We don't have boundaries, but we do have competition.

Advertising on the web scares me a little because I am not tech savvy. I wouldn't know the first thing about giving myself a dominant/prominent web presence. That being said, Social Networking is a different beast. We are connecting to people we already know. Talking on Facebook is like sending a mass email to your contact list. Your message doesn't get sent to people who don't already know you unless a friend copy and pastes your message. And that cannot be controlled. We shouldn't be penalized for someone trying to help us out and posting our websites and information for their friends to see.

I had this thought as well. Every host has a right to choose who they work with, much like going across the street to the same store, or across town.

 

[DebbieJ]

Do we not have this already? Most people who know one consultant know at least 2. Which one do they choose to work with? The one they have a personal relationship to, the one that gives them the hook up, the one that doesn't mind delivering products from time to time. We don't have boundaries, but we do have competition.

Advertising on the web scares me a little because I am not tech savvy. I wouldn't know the first thing about giving myself a dominant/prominent web presence. That being said, Social Networking is a different beast. We are connecting to people we already know. Talking on Facebook is like sending a mass email to your contact list. Your message doesn't get sent to people who don't already know you unless a friend copy and pastes your message. And that cannot be controlled. We shouldn't be penalized for someone trying to help us out and posting our websites and information for their friends to see.

I had this thought as well. Every host has a right to choose who they work with, much like going across the street to the same store, or across town.

We run into this all the time and I just had it happen last week. I had a real PC veteran at my show. She had everything, it seemed. Her last show was $2200. Yet when I asked her who her consultant was, she had to think about it and eventually came up with the names of two consultants she had worked with in the past. She is now going to book with me, so I'll be consultant #3 for her.

 

[lockhartkitchen]

Good point Deb. I have someone I buy MK from. My lid fell off my eye makeup remover bottle and I lost it all. I HAD to have it immediately to get my makeup off. I tried for over a week to get a hold of my MK person, because I do want to be "loyal". However, no return calls, so I searched and found another one in town and got my stuff.

 

[burtonfour]

Its a shame PC wants us to be so secretive about our biz. We need to get current with the times. If we want a change, we need to let them know.

 

[Jmioni]

I was actually just reading the Consultants Policy Guide updated in July and found the following:

You can list your Personal Web Site
address in your personal e-mail correspondence, e-newsletters,
on social networking websites or profiles such as Facebook,
Myspace, Twitter, etc., or on business cards, checks, stationery
and other similar materials. Your host may use your Personal
Web Site address to promote their Show through printed
invitations, e-mail invitations, or through their social networking
profile. You can also list your personal site in print advertising as long as you act in accordance with all
other guidelines.

There are some more clarifications to some of the comments listed in this thread ad well. See pages 38/39 on t he Consultants Policy Guide.

Hopefully this will help clear up some internet confusion...

Happy Selling! :chef:

 

[NooraK]

This thread was from prior to the announcment at NC about the changes to the online advertising policies. We've had quite a few different threads started about FB since then.