Higher Paid Direct Sales Companies....

[gilliandanielle]

My SIL (who is signing with PL on Sun) said that consultants earn 25% also. She said "So if I have a $400 show I get $100!!" Good luck with that! I told her I would hold a show for her, but I don't want anything free, and with small children and clumsy preggy hands I don't want open flame in my home!!

 

[lacychef]

Oh, and the kit is only $90 (hey, when my upline director started 17 years ago it was $100!).

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Actually they just changed the amount a couple years ago...when I started 5 years ago it was $100! I paid $60

You are an inspiration Janice! You're doing so well with only 1 year under your belt!
And I love your comment about having lots of stoneware instead of lots of lipstick! I never wear lipstick; chapstick for me

 

[heat123]

Actually they just changed the amount a couple years ago...when I started 5 years ago it was $100! I paid $60

You are an inspiration Janice! You're doing so well with only 1 year under your belt!
And I love your comment about having lots of stoneware instead of lots of lipstick! I never wear lipstick; chapstick for me

Soo true! I tried Avon before PC and had soo much sample stuff left over that I gave it all away! And I did not make anything with Avon after 10 months!

 

[reba515]

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I did a few Open Houses the last few weeks with consultants in other companies (HI, MK, LS, TS), and they were all AMAZED that my sales were so high (like to the point where having 1 $1000 show in a year was a lot, let alone as many as I have and a $2000+ show, too). I can't tell you the looks on their faces when I told them that I was completing my 3rd month of $6000+ sales!

I have to tell you that I would never contemplate any other business. I have found what I was looking for on my first try...

so true! i did a open house a few weeks ago with consultants from body shop,at home america and silpada......my sales were over $1300 none of them broke $500

 

[pamperedgirl3]

I think next year I'm going to try to do open houses with other vendors instead of by myself!

 

[AJPratt]

Anne - when you become a director, you can only be involved with PC, so think hard about what you want!

Can't wait to promote! While I love PL, I can barely keep up with my PC business!

 

[Pamperedbaking]

I'm currently doing both PL and PC (just signed last week). With PL it was hard for me to get started. You have to do 6 shows in 2 weeks (or the option of 10 shows in 30 days) to become qualified. It was really hard to do, all of my friends either had small children or pets and didn't like to burn candles. But after awhile I got my business going pretty good. My average sales were $730. Then I moved to Germany (husband is military) and it is really hard to sale PL over here. There is 20% shipping and that is a hard sale no matter how great the product is (although I just did a show that was $1300). Also, as I'm doing my demos, no matter how hard I try to make them fun, everyone seems so bored. I've tried many different things, but there is the basic candle care that must be talked about if someone there hasn't had a partylite candle before, and it is just really boring. I've incorporated games and everything and it is just boring. PL also doesn't do so good with catalog shows. My highest catalog show was $330, and that was with family buying off of me because of pitty. You also have to sale $500/month to stay qualified (for consultants, leaders have to have more in sales to stay active) and with PC it is $200 every 2 months.
I'm going to stop my PL this month (new catties come out in January and I don't want to buy them since I only had 2 shows scheduled, 1 of which i think is going to cancel). I've been trying to find another US consultant in this area to do the show but PL home office isn't helping me find one and my upline isn't much help because they want me to stay with PL.

With PL you get 25% of sales, then once you bonus ($1500 in sales in one month) you get another 7% plus when you sponsor people and they become active you get 7% of thier sales. PL consultants do not pay for hostess gift out of commission (I think someone mentioned that earlier). BUT they must buy candles all the time to burn and give away at shows, also have to buy new items when they come out if they want them in thier display to show. It is at a discount price, but you still HAVE to buy them if you want to show them. They do have contests once in awhile for free new items but the requirements are ridiculously high sales within a certain amount of shows (or something similar, not every incentive req't is the same).

Anyways, not trying to bash PL or anything, I love PL, they are the only candles I will ever burn, but not everyone is in the market to buy candles, and everyone needs kitchen and cooking supplies! So I think I will do really good with PC and can't wait to get started!!!

 

[noellewilliams]

MK a great product!As a former MK consultant I will tell you it is BS that you do not have to keep inventory - because if everytime someone wants something you have to order it, what kind of customer service is that? They will just find another MK Consultant (they are everywhere!) to get it from them. Dont get me wrong, when I signed up to sell MK 10 years ago it first introduced me to the product and I LOVE IT and will never stop using it, I just had a MK show in October and my show was $350 with 7 people there! I had originally purchased $1800 ($3600 retail) worth of product (due to my recruiters prompting) and in the end I threw alot of it away because I couldnt sell it. 50% profit is how they entice people, but you have to make all deliveries, and any host bonus comes right out of your pocket. I will tell you this, not everyone wears jewelry, burns candles, owns crystal, or even elaborately decorates their homes - BUT THEY ALL HAVE TO EAT! So why would you change to another company when you already work for maybe no the highest paid, but with the best host/guest/consultant promotions and the coolest trips?????Noelle Williams

 

[Shonda1107]

As I see this, I guess it boils down to what is more important for each person. Even if it turns out that MK (or any other DS company) pays more in commission than PC, can you see yourself loving your business be it selling make-up, perfume, jewelry, candles, etc.? Passion connected to your business is what sells and commissions are only paid on actual sales. 50% of no sales is still far less than 20% of a great party!

And, if making money is your number one pursuit (and nothing's wrong with that) then I would spend serious time looking into this. Yet, if you want to make great money, have a wonderful time, truly embrace your product, and feel confident in the credibility and reputation of your company, more than commission needs to be considered.

I have been an independent rep for over 6 companies in the course of my lifetime and two I've signed on multiple times. My Pampered Chef business is truly the most "kindred" business I have ever worked (within and out of DS) and that was important to me - to feel a measure of purpose fulfilled.

 

[lisacb77]

Why would ppl w/pets not want candles?? I just keep mine on a high enough shelf so doggie doesn't knock them over.

 

[cmdtrgd]

Cats can jump.

 

[ChefBeckyD]

Cats can jump.

.....and their tails.....right now I'm getting a vision of my kitty with a flaming tail, streaking thru the house yowling!!!

 

[lisacb77]

LOL thanks. No kitties so I was wondering! My dog has a tail of death, so that's why candles go on high shelves

 

[rennea]

Why would ppl w/pets not want candles?? I just keep mine on a high enough shelf so doggie doesn't knock them over.

Was wondering the same thing!!! 3 dogs and a cat and a whole ton of partylite in my home!!! Other then candles I don't have a whole lot of clutter in my house maybe that makes a difference.

My best friend has two kids and lots of candles, my mother always did too. My friend just said that "kids need to learn from a very young age to be respectful other peoples things". Good quote to live by

 

[cmdtrgd]

It also has to do with the temperment of the pets and kids. I have a cat who will look at you straight in the eye while pushing something off the counter that he is not supposed to be on anyway...he's a ton of fun!!!

 

[rennea]

It also has to do with the temperment of the pets and kids. I have a cat who will look at you straight in the eye while pushing something off the counter that he is not supposed to be on anyway...he's a ton of fun!!!

My cat is 28lbs, and scared of nothing or nobody

 

[koeverson]

I understand that MK and the jewlery parties make more in commissions than PC, but for me, its not really about the commission (although that is a nice feature) I love the product. I use the product. I don't use MK products. As it was stated earlier everybody eats. So everybody male or female can use PC products.

 

[heat123]

I understand that MK and the jewlery parties make more in commissions than PC, but for me, its not really about the commission (although that is a nice feature) I love the product. I use the product. I don't use MK products. As it was stated earlier everybody eats. So everybody male or female can use PC products.

But when all said and done, after keeping inventory, deliveries, small show averages compared with some companies, PC is really a cut above alot of them in soo many aspects!!!

 

[Pamperedbaking]

Was wondering the same thing!!! 3 dogs and a cat and a whole ton of partylite in my home!!! Other then candles I don't have a whole lot of clutter in my house maybe that makes a difference.

My best friend has two kids and lots of candles, my mother always did too. My friend just said that "kids need to learn from a very young age to be respectful other peoples things". Good quote to live by

My son is 15 months and I've never had a problem with him trying to mess with any of my candles, but some of my friends let thier kids do whatever they want (even when they come to my house ). So that is thier excuse for not wanting to burn candles. Also, I think the pets thing has to do more with cats, because out of the 6 friends that i have that have cats abosulutely REFUSE to have candles of any sort. Again this could be just an excuse, but I know for sure that 2 of them have cats that climb EVERYWHERE.

I agree that kids need to learn to respect other peoples things, and that is what I'm teaching my son, but not everyone takes the time to teach thier kids that...not even in thier own homes. Maybe my friends are just cheap, but they can certainly afford to buy candles, I'm talking about pharmacists and doctors who think nothing of spending $500 at one time on PC (yeah for me!)!

edited to fix grammar.

 

[ChefBeckyD]

My son is 15 months and I've never had a problem with him trying to mess with any of my candles, but some of my friends let thier kids do whatever they want (even when they come to my house ). So that is thier excuse for not wanting to burn candles. Also, I think the pets thing has to do more with cats, because out of the 6 friends that i have that have cats abosulutely REFUSE to have candles of any sort. Again this could be just an excuse, but I know for sure that 2 of them have cats that climb EVERYWHERE.

I agree that kids need to learn to respect other peoples things, and that is what I'm teaching my son, but not everyone takes the time to teach thier kids that...not even in thier own homes. Maybe my friends are just cheap, but they can certainly afford to buy candles, I'm talking about pharmacists and doctors who think nothing of spending $500 at one time on PC (yeah for me!)!

edited to fix grammar.

I take very seriously the job of teaching my son to be a decent human being - actually even more than that - my desire is for him to be a strong man of God who is a leader and not a follower, and who is kind and loving and respectful (He has told thee oh man what is good and what the Lord desires - to do justice, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God - Micah 6:8)......with that being said, he is two, and very strong-willed. I (we actually including my husband) have chosen to be a stay at home mom so I can have the greatest impact on him as far as discipline, learning, etc......however, those leadership qualities that I want to instill in him right now come out as being very strong-willed. It has nothing to do with me not "Taking the time to teach" him to be respectful etc.....I work with him on a constant basis! Some children just learn the lessons easier, and are more easy going than others. Last week, he figured out how to climb the glass shelves (removable) on the entertainment center, and although we talked about it, and he was disciplined EVERY TIME - he still tried climbing 8 times before he finally gave up! HE also has a fascination with candles - loves them, and is always begging for one of his own to carry around to smell! For that reason, I choose not to burn candles very often, and when I do, I purchase them on sale! To my way of thinking, even though I am working hard to teach him to be respectful, a two year old can be forgetful, and it would only take ONE TIME for him to hurt himself or cause a fire in the house....I would rather err on the side of caution on this one!

 

[cmdtrgd]

As I see this, I guess it boils down to what is more important for each person. Even if it turns out that MK (or any other DS company) pays more in commission than PC, can you see yourself loving your business be it selling make-up, perfume, jewelry, candles, etc.? Passion connected to your business is what sells and commissions are only paid on actual sales. 50% of no sales is still far less than 20% of a great party!

And, if making money is your number one pursuit (and nothing's wrong with that) then I would spend serious time looking into this. Yet, if you want to make great money, have a wonderful time, truly embrace your product, and feel confident in the credibility and reputation of your company, more than commission needs to be considered.

I have been an independent rep for over 6 companies in the course of my lifetime and two I've signed on multiple times. My Pampered Chef business is truly the most "kindred" business I have ever worked (within and out of DS) and that was important to me - to feel a measure of purpose fulfilled.

WELL SAID!!!

 

[cmdtrgd]

My cat is 28lbs, and scared of nothing or nobody

Teehee...my cat just does the looking at you and shoving something slowly off the counter to get us to chase him. He is like a toddler having a temper tantrum because nobody will give him the total attention he wants. The problem with the cat is that he only wants attention for a few minutes...or wants a different kind of attention than I am giving him...then he goes and whines and drools on my husband who is relaxing on the computer. We have burned Salt City candles before, but only when we are within about a 5 foot radius. I would hate to have to keep relighting it every time I came back in a room - that's why I am interested in trying out Scentsy. Also, hubby gets migraines, so I have to be very careful what types of candles as well as the scents we have. So far, Salt City are great - he'll even burn the peach one in his computer room. I have never tried PL because I have never been invited to one. That is something I would have to go to a party to test out before buying.

 

[Pamperedbaking]

didn't mean to step on any toes...

I take very seriously the job of teaching my son to be a decent human being - actually even more than that - my desire is for him to be a strong man of God who is a leader and not a follower, and who is kind and loving and respectful (He has told thee oh man what is good and what the Lord desires - to do justice, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God - Micah 6:8)......with that being said, he is two, and very strong-willed. I (we actually including my husband) have chosen to be a stay at home mom so I can have the greatest impact on him as far as discipline, learning, etc......however, those leadership qualities that I want to instill in him right now come out as being very strong-willed. It has nothing to do with me not "Taking the time to teach" him to be respectful etc.....I work with him on a constant basis! Some children just learn the lessons easier, and are more easy going than others. Last week, he figured out how to climb the glass shelves (removable) on the entertainment center, and although we talked about it, and he was disciplined EVERY TIME - he still tried climbing 8 times before he finally gave up! HE also has a fascination with candles - loves them, and is always begging for one of his own to carry around to smell! For that reason, I choose not to burn candles very often, and when I do, I purchase them on sale! To my way of thinking, even though I am working hard to teach him to be respectful, a two year old can be forgetful, and it would only take ONE TIME for him to hurt himself or cause a fire in the house....I would rather err on the side of caution on this one!

I know there are stronged willed children out there. My son can be quite strong willed when it comes to turning the tv off. No matter how many times I spank him or sit him in time out he still has a very strong will to turn the tv off. Having said that I didn't mean to imply that any child who likes to touch things and not respect others things is not being taught NOT to. In my experience, my friends who have this problem are NOT teaching thier children becuase it is easier for them not to. They work full time, most of them are pharmacists so they work on thier feet for 12 hour shifts 3 to 4 times a week, and they would just rather let thier children rum amock, no spankings, no talking to's they just let them destroy everything (and don't buy candles) because it is easier for them to deal with after working a long shift. That is thier excuse for not buying the candles or having any party's for me. I was a pharmacist, and quit when my son was born because my husband and I thought it was best for him to have a full time parent at home (not saying daycare is bad, I put him in daycare at least once a week while I run some errands and have appts. and he gets to play with other kids his age). When I said that MY FRIENDS aren't buying candles because THEY aren't taking the time to teach thier kids that is exactly what I meant...MY FRIENDS AREN'T TAKING THE TIME TO TEACH THIER KIDS. I was in no way implying that every kid that has a strong will isn't being taught to be respectful. When you let your child go to someone else's house and jump up and down on the couch and pull things off of the tables and throw thier cereal snack (I'm talking about a 3 year old here) all over the place and just laugh and don't even tell your child that it is wrong AND then you don't have the nerve to help pick up thier mess THAT IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. That is a child that isn't being taught to be respectul and unfortunately (and I love my friends) that is how most of them let thier children behave.

 

[pamperedgirl3]

I know there are stronged willed children out there. My son can be quite strong willed when it comes to turning the tv off. No matter how many times I spank him or sit him in time out he still has a very strong will to turn the tv off. Having said that I didn't mean to imply that any child who likes to touch things and not respect others things is not being taught NOT to. In my experience, my friends who have this problem are NOT teaching thier children becuase it is easier for them not to. They work full time, most of them are pharmacists so they work on thier feet for 12 hour shifts 3 to 4 times a week, and they would just rather let thier children rum amock, no spankings, no talking to's they just let them destroy everything (and don't buy candles) because it is easier for them to deal with after working a long shift. That is thier excuse for not buying the candles or having any party's for me. I was a pharmacist, and quit when my son was born because my husband and I thought it was best for him to have a full time parent at home (not saying daycare is bad, I put him in daycare at least once a week while I run some errands and have appts. and he gets to play with other kids his age). When I said that MY FRIENDS aren't buying candles because THEY aren't taking the time to teach thier kids that is exactly what I meant...MY FRIENDS AREN'T TAKING THE TIME TO TEACH THIER KIDS. I was in no way implying that every kid that has a strong will isn't being taught to be respectful. When you let your child go to someone else's house and jump up and down on the couch and pull things off of the tables and throw thier cereal snack (I'm talking about a 3 year old here) all over the place and just laugh and don't even tell your child that it is wrong AND then you don't have the nerve to help pick up thier mess THAT IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. That is a child that isn't being taught to be respectul and unfortunately (and I love my friends) that is how most of them let thier children behave.

I knew exactly what you were talking about. Believe me--you CAN TELL when someone isn't teaching their kids how to behave or respect others. Kids will be kids & they'll try to get away with what they can (that's how they learn what's acceptable or not), but it's what the parents DO about it that makes the difference!

 

[Chef Passion]

I know with lia sophia you start out making 30% commission, when you promote to manager you make 40%. They don't have to pay any hostess benefits at all either. On their downline they make 10% when downline promotes then they make 5% off of their sales. I'm not thinking of swtiching either but my sil sells this.

I went to a Lia Sophia party last year with a friend and we each bought a ring. Mine was just plain silver, no stones in it, just a wavy style band and it was $50. It turns my finger black every time I wear it.

My friend's ring had stones in it. A stone fell out of it within the first week of wearing it (and she's not abusing it, trust me). It got sent back and was returned with the stone in place. A few months later another stone fell out and she just stopped wearing it. Hers cost more than mine.

I really want to support the friend who is selling the jewelry but I can't and it's really a shame. I'm not trying to bash the company, just conveying my experience with it.

 

[DebbieJ]

This thread is from 2006.....