Have You Seen Myspace.com Lately?

[MGG]

Sur le Table is "under the table".

Hi Beth,
Just so you know and don't think they are crazy: sur means on; sur la table means "on the table" sous is the word for under and like in spanish table is femanine so it's la not le. 7 years of french education and this is the first time I've used it in about 4 years-LOL.

 

[BethCooks4U]

Hi Beth,
Just so you know and don't think they are crazy: sur means on; sur la table means "on the table" sous is the word for under and like in spanish table is femanine so it's la not le. 7 years of french education and this is the first time I've used it in about 4 years-LOL.

Oh! Thanks! I tried to learn French before I went there for a visit but it was hopeless (as you can see). My son said I spoke "Redneck French" - lol.

He even taught me a not nice word and told me it was something else. I believed him but I was trying to say that (I forget now what it was) to my friend and said that my son had taught me that word. And then I said it. She looked a little shocked and then laughed and told me what it meant (nothing dirty but not nice). No surprise that he did that to me though.

 

[etteluap70PC]

Go John! WooHoo!!!

 

[dannyzmom]

Way to go John!!!!

 

[pampered1224]

I have an idea...Doesn't matter what wave you are in because it can work.
You really want to get the point run home? Everyone of us should go out to MySpace. Pick one person out there who comes up in the Pampered Chef listing. PRINT THEIR NAME on a large sheet of Poster board. Then while running around or during General Session, Hold up that sign! Under their name of course goes the words:

MY SPACE ADVERTISER!
UNFAIR! CHEATER! LIAR!
They became a liar when they went against the very contract they signed.

I am that PO'd. And don't tell me it does not effect your business. Even if you loose one customer or host, even unknowingly to any one on My Space, THEY HAVE S*&E(#D YOU OUT OF BUSINESS! AND THAT IS NOT FAIR!
I'm ticked because a host I tried contacting from the past, and I have once a year for about 4 years finally told me not to contact her any more. She was doing business with someone else. She decided to contact someone out there to do show for her. She would not, of course, tell me the consultant's name. I simply told her about the advertising rule and could not keep my mouth shut. I simply asked if she liked doing business with a liar and a cheat? She never responded. Fine. I don't care. I WANT THEM ALL TO BURN AS THE WITCHES AND/OR WARLOCKS THEY ARE.
I have to laugh though. they must be pretty lousy consultants if they have to go to "illegal" methods to get shows or sales. Crap. Now I pitty the poor suckers! NOT!

 

[MomToEli]

I don't know if you caught this or not John, but on one of the pages there is actually a link that takes you to PC items on eBay!

I'm really sorry that you lost a client to that.

And you are right - it hurts ALL of our businesses. Selling that way lacks one of the things that makes PC PC - personal service. Customers will end up with a bad taste in their mouth, and we all know that an unhappy customer will tell 250 other people about their bad experience.

I really do hope the company acts on all of this quickly.

 

[pampered1224]

If we're lucky it will only be250. The way it is running, it will effect the entire company. The more these idiots advertise like this, the more of the good Consultants will fall by the way side. PC will fall. I haven't told anyone this but, I am thinking of getting out. It makes me that sick to my stomach. I love this company. They are ruining that feeling. And it's not just one but there has to be at least 200 plus out there.
I have known all about all this for about 4 months but wanted to see what PC would do. Apparently nothing.

Then we all loose.

And yes, I have been out to E-bay. I actually have a bidding account out there. But not for PC stuff. I won't support cheaters and I don't lknow who is and isn't. Except you know the ones with new products and paper work are crooks.

OK I have too much energy now and too much time on my hands. How about a few thousand flyers.

I gotta get out of here before I get to upset and can't sleep. It wouldn't do me much good to loose my full time job for falling alseep at my desk. ESPECIALLY SINCE I SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF ABOUT 30 PEOPLE! AND DANG IF I DON'T SNORE LOUDLY WHEN I DON'T HAVE MY CPAC MACHINE!

If I am not mistaken, PC could take all of these people to court as breach of contract is ILLEGAL!!!
Sorry removed the list.

 

[dannyzmom]

250. The way it is running, it will effect the entire company. The more these idiots advertise like this, the more of the good Consultants will fall by the way side. PC will fall. I haven't told anyone this but, I am thinking of getting out. It makes me that sick to my stomach. I love this company. They are ruining that feeling. And it's not just one but there has to be at least 200 plus out there.
I have known all about all this for about 4 months but wanted to see what PC would do. Apparently nothing.

Then we all loose.

And yes, I have been out to E-bay. I actually have a bidding account out there. But not for PC stuff. I won't support cheaters and I don't lknow who is and isn't. Except you know the ones with new products and paper work are crooks.

OK I have too much energy now and too much time on my hands. How about a few thousand flyers.

I gotta get out of here before I get to upset and can't sleep. It wouldn't do me much good to loose my full time job for falling alseep at my desk. ESPECIALLY SINCE I SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF ABOUT 30 PEOPLE! AND DANG IF I DON'T SNORE LOUDLY WHEN I DON'T HAVE MY CPAC MACHINE!

If I am not mistaken, PC could take all of these people to court as breach of contract is ILLEGAL!!!

Your flyer is hilarious! LOL
You should hand it to Doris at National Conference!!

 

[pampered1224]

Who knows...Probably not Doris as she seems to be inaccessable but Jean or Lisa or well, somebody will always be around. I could even hand to our new sales rep Michelle. At least I know her a little better than the others.
Wouldn't that be a trip and half though. I wonder these peoples directors would do?

 

[ChefBurke]

why do people care? its stupid to get mad at.. & 34yrs old on myspace who is married with kids-thats sad.

 

[ChefBurke]

250. The way it is running, it will effect the entire company. The more these idiots advertise like this, the more of the good Consultants will fall by the way side. PC will fall. I haven't told anyone this but, I am thinking of getting out. It makes me that sick to my stomach. I love this company. They are ruining that feeling. And it's not just one but there has to be at least 200 plus out there.
I have known all about all this for about 4 months but wanted to see what PC would do. Apparently nothing.

Then we all loose.

And yes, I have been out to E-bay. I actually have a bidding account out there. But not for PC stuff. I won't support cheaters and I don't lknow who is and isn't. Except you know the ones with new products and paper work are crooks.

OK I have too much energy now and too much time on my hands. How about a few thousand flyers.

I gotta get out of here before I get to upset and can't sleep. It wouldn't do me much good to loose my full time job for falling alseep at my desk. ESPECIALLY SINCE I SIT IN THE MIDDLE OF ABOUT 30 PEOPLE! AND DANG IF I DON'T SNORE LOUDLY WHEN I DON'T HAVE MY CPAC MACHINE!

If I am not mistaken, PC could take all of these people to court as breach of contract is ILLEGAL!!!

I cannot for the life of me understand why yall are getting upset. Let HO handle it.. Put all that wasted time on your hands to something useful like booking shows.. And I think its wrong for you to blast out peoples names-your as bad as they are quite frankly!

 

[chefhorton]

Sad!I am bothered by the fact that this flyer was even made up. You all are like the Salem witch hunters! Mind your own BUSINESS and let others do what they will with their business - if they cheat, it's on them and they will lose in the end.
I am ashamed right now of this group.

 

[BethCooks4U]

I am bothered by the fact that this flyer was even made up. You all are like the Salem witch hunters! Mind your own BUSINESS and let others do what they will with their business - if they cheat, it's on them and they will lose in the end.
I am ashamed right now of this group.

... and a few others.

AGAIN, some people feel the need to put others down because they expressed their opinions. We are in America, folks. Freedom of speech.

If you don't like what you read, state your opinion but don't call others names ("witch hunters") and if it REALLY bothers you then don't read those threads. If it all shames you that much then find another group.

JMHO. Take it or leave it.

 

[ivykeep]

why do people care? its stupid to get mad at.. & 34yrs old on myspace who is married with kids-thats sad.

I think that's a pretty general statement since many people are on myspace for many different reason and not all are "Sad" and I find that generalization insulting and not at all productive or helpful to the discussion at hand.

I have a myspace account because my younger sisters have one and helps me keep tabs on what they are doing online. It's a great way to keep in touch with my teenage neices and nephews and I have quite a few friends who also have myspace accounts...

AND I'm married with a child and over 34 years old. My site and reasons for having one are anything but "sad" My site also has NO mention of PC anywhere one it (my occupation is listed as a consultant for one of the top direct sales kitchen tools company).

Now I do think that people are focusing a bit too much on the myspace infractions. Yeah, I think that they are blatently violating rules and that that is wrong (I also think that things work out in the end and HO will crack down on them), but I don't think they are worth obsessing over. Are they hurting all consultants, probably, but the effect is still minor.

Rather than getting ready to quit over someone violating policies, work your business and make it the best you can do and then stop obsessing and checking up on other people and let the HO handle it.

I don't do those searches for that exact reason.

 

[dannyzmom]

I am bothered by the fact that this flyer was even made up. You all are like the Salem witch hunters! Mind your own BUSINESS and let others do what they will with their business - if they cheat, it's on them and they will lose in the end.
I am ashamed right now of this group.

Actually, no.
If they cheat, it's not only on them -- it is a reflection on all of us. Yes, they will lose in the end, but so will the rest of us.
So...you call it a witch hunt - I call it demanding an even playing field for all consultants.

 

[chefhorton]

I am all for an even playing field, but you must also have fair players, which is something that cannot be guaranteed in any aspect of life.

 

[vangogirl]

I think that's a pretty general statement since many people are on myspace for many different reason and not all are "Sad" and I find that generalization insulting and not at all productive or helpful to the discussion at hand.

No offense to all the writers of this thread, but, is this post productive or helpful? Honestly, If you feel this way about the abusers send a list to HO, but what exactly is helpful about a 9 page angry thread?
Personally, I think they'll get whats coming to them and I'm not bothered by it. I do understand that a lot of you are angry over it, so do something productive to help.
Just my opinion.

 

[ivykeep]

No offense to all the writers of this thread, but, is this post productive or helpful? Honestly, If you feel this way about the abusers send a list to HO, but what exactly is helpful about a 9 page angry thread?
Personally, I think they'll get whats coming to them and I'm not bothered by it. I do understand that a lot of you are angry over it, so do something productive to help.
Just my opinion.

I think it can be productive and helpful to give people a place where they can vent about something that bothers them (and anyone who might be slightly breaking the rules by simply saying PC in the online sites might go and fix it after reading the passion here.

I do think that it goes a bit far for people to discuss quitting PC over what a handful of people are doing. (and yeah, it is a handful -- 250 Myspace violations is a drop in the bucket when you count the number of consultants worldwide).

 

[ivykeep]

Actually, no.
If they cheat, it's not only on them -- it is a reflection on all of us. Yes, they will lose in the end, but so will the rest of us.
So...you call it a witch hunt - I call it demanding an even playing field for all consultants.

No, it's not a reflection on all of us -- it's a reflection of those individuals.

There are plenty of ways that consultants can be a bad reflection on all of us without violating the online rules. I've seen flyers (posted both on-line in news forums and on bulletin boards in community centers) full of typos and poor grammar. Anyone who is rude to a customer is a bad reflection on all of us. I've seen ads in the local papers that promise the world. I've seen lead boxes that skirt the line of misrepresenting what you get at a show. (Earn $200 in free products without mentioning that there are sales requirements to that)

If you lump all PC consultants together then anything anyone says or does is a reflection of all of us -- yet Pampered Chef is very careful to be clear that we are INDEPENDENT consultants and not representatives of the company or other consultants.

Honestly, I doubt that the people with links on their myspace accounts are even generating that much income (if any). It's against policy so should be addressed, but they aren't becoming rich off of it. The majority of the people who add random people to their friends list aren't usually searching for Pampered Chef products -- I would say that ebay is a much worse situation than Myspace -- but you can't control what a customer or a former consultant does. It's even hard to police active consultants who aren't doing the selling themselves. I know LOTS of people who sell on ebay (not PC stuff) that part of their business is taking consignments from other people.

It's fine to vent and definitely good to report the blatent stuff (like the person selling start-up kits on ebay), but absolutely not worth getting so worked up over that you are going crazy with it.

Some people will ALWAYS take advantage and as soon as you stop one, another one will step in to take their place.

I understand PC's reasons for not allowing on-line advertising (particularly banner ads), but expect that over time it is going to change -- after all this is my PERSONAL, INDEPENDENT business so I should be free to advertise however I see fit. But since that isn't the current policy right now, I will abide by the rules.

 

[MomToEli]

I am bothered by the fact that this flyer was even made up. You all are like the Salem witch hunters! Mind your own BUSINESS and let others do what they will with their business - if they cheat, it's on them and they will lose in the end.
I am ashamed right now of this group.

It is very short sighted to believe that people practicing this sort of behavior does not have an adverse affect on the business of all of the rest of us. It is no "witch hunt" to forward knowledge of those violating the same contract all of us signed to the HO.

 

[pampered1224]

OK now it's time to stop.We all remember the other thread that was SHUT DOWN by Greg. I really got to everyone out here and I am sorry I stirred up such a harnets nest. The whole point of my ranting was simply to vent a frustration. A frustration at having to work so hard to get bookings, at getting sales and well, no it's not fair to those of us who follow the rules. Yes, I did put together the flyer on purpose too. The purpose was to get it out of my system. And I am was not violating anyones persoanl space because all that info is publicly available. If they can post it for the public to see, I can certainly use the public info. It was not a witch hunt or a lynch mob or anything as STUPID as that. If I can't bring my PC baggage here without getting shafted from both ends, then what good does this site do? We all have times when we are majorly bummed about our businesses. I had to blame someone else because it certainly isn't me whose at fault. YEAH RIGHT!
Talking it out, getting it out and letting it go. That's right. Letting it go happened between my last post and this one. I would not have been able to without getting it out of my system. I couldn't do that at home. My other half rarely even wants to hear about PC let alone my PC problems. Apparently none of the people who think I was on a "witch hunt" or whatever have had problems with their business. So with a deep breath, I removed the flyer, and I am leaving for the day and I am not posting here again. I am done venting. Thank you to those of you who understand and sympothise and shame on those of you who don't get it. Amen!

 

[dannyzmom]

We all remember the other thread that was SHUT DOWN by Greg. I really got to everyone out here and I am sorry I stirred up such a harnets nest. The whole point of my ranting was simply to vent a frustration. A frustration at having to work so hard to get bookings, at getting sales and well, no it's not fair to those of us who follow the rules. Yes, I did put together the flyer on purpose too. The purpose was to get it out of my system. And I am was not violating anyones persoanl space because all that info is publicly available. If they can post it for the public to see, I can certainly use the public info. It was not a witch hunt or a lynch mob or anything as STUPID as that. If I can't bring my PC baggage here without getting shafted from both ends, then what good does this site do? We all have times when we are majorly bummed about our businesses. I had to blame someone else because it certainly isn't me whose at fault. YEAH RIGHT!
Talking it out, getting it out and letting it go. That's right. Letting it go happened between my last post and this one. I would not have been able to without getting it out of my system. I couldn't do that at home. My other half rarely even wants to hear about PC let alone my PC problems. Apparently none of the people who think I was on a "witch hunt" or whatever have had problems with their business. So with a deep breath, I removed the flyer, and I am leaving for the day and I am not posting here again. I am done venting. Thank you to those of you who understand and sympothise and shame on those of you who don't get it. Amen!

(((((((((((((((John))))))))))))))
Vent here anytime...we've got your back

 

[pamperedlinda]

We all remember the other thread that was SHUT DOWN by Greg. I really got to everyone out here and I am sorry I stirred up such a harnets nest. The whole point of my ranting was simply to vent a frustration. A frustration at having to work so hard to get bookings, at getting sales and well, no it's not fair to those of us who follow the rules. Yes, I did put together the flyer on purpose too. The purpose was to get it out of my system. And I am was not violating anyones persoanl space because all that info is publicly available. If they can post it for the public to see, I can certainly use the public info. It was not a witch hunt or a lynch mob or anything as STUPID as that. If I can't bring my PC baggage here without getting shafted from both ends, then what good does this site do? We all have times when we are majorly bummed about our businesses. I had to blame someone else because it certainly isn't me whose at fault. YEAH RIGHT!
Talking it out, getting it out and letting it go. That's right. Letting it go happened between my last post and this one. I would not have been able to without getting it out of my system. I couldn't do that at home. My other half rarely even wants to hear about PC let alone my PC problems. Apparently none of the people who think I was on a "witch hunt" or whatever have had problems with their business. So with a deep breath, I removed the flyer, and I am leaving for the day and I am not posting here again. I am done venting. Thank you to those of you who understand and sympothise and shame on those of you who don't get it. Amen!

Don't worry about it John, this is way different from the 'shut down' thread. We are all entitled to an opinion and there will always be some who do not agree with others. Chef Success is here for us to share, teach, celebrate, vent, b1tch, laugh, cry.......whatever.....I'm just glad we have this outlet. I have learned so much from this site and I've made friends (and probably some enemies) too. You can't please everyone all of the time.

 

[kaceyleigh2]

Can someone please explain the rules specific to Myspace? I have a Myspace account and listed that I'm a Pampered Chef Consultant. I don't have a link to my PWS.
In May I made a slideshow (on One True Media) about the HWC campaign. I e-mailed it to everyone on my e-mail list and basically thought of it as e-mailing a flyer to customers, hosts, friends, family. I also posted it as a bulletin (only viewed by friends) on Myspace and in a blog.
Am I in violation of the rules? I certainly don't want to be.
With that said I have seen people advertising online but I don't feel that it takes away from my business. If I have a good rapport with my hosts and customers I'm not going to worry about someone online.
I will admit I did not read every post in this thread but some of the ones I did read were pretty heated and I'm not trying to cause "heat" but do you really think the "rulebreakers" are getting that much business this way? I'm not condoning rule breaking, but I just can't help wondering how well they are doing with their business when they are advertising on Myspace and not talking to actually working with individual customers?

**I did have a Director try to recruit me on Myspace. When was looking into becoming a consultant I "researched" first (that's how I ended up on here). Well I did find a few people on Myspace to ask what they thought of Pampered Chef and how hard it was? Do you make money, etc? Well this Director responded with me wanting to sign up under her...I still ended up going through Home Office. I guess I'm not sure what the point of that story is...and I'm rambling ...sorry

 

[etteluap70PC]

to keep it easier for myself to refer to I pulled this info directly from Policies and precedures.

Consultant Agreement
Terms and Conditions
A. As a Pampered Chef® Consultant, I understand and agree:

1. I will promote and sell Company products to customers by regularly holding Cooking Shows. I will not sell Company products on the Internet or in any public, retail or service establishments. I will not sell Company products for resale. I will present Company products in a truthful, sincere and honest manner, and I will conduct myself in a manner that reflects the highest standards of integrity and responsibility in keeping with the reputation of the Company.
2. I will protect the Company’s trademarks and trade name by not reproducing the Company’s name and/or trademarks or copy any of the Company’s materials for use in any advertising without the prior written approval of the Company

PC Policies and procedures pg 21:
“Consultants of any level are prohibited from linking to their Pampered Chef® Persona Web Sites. “…… “Additionally, any other form of advertising on the Web is prohibited.”
Pg22
Consultants and above
“Other than signing up for a Pampered Chef® Personal Website or approved vendor sites like Visual Impact Products, do not list the company name when filling out personal profiles on the Internet.”

Pg 23
The Home Office will randomly audit links to Personal Web Sites to ensure these guidelines are being followed. If you wish to report a violation, please e-mail Consultant Career Solutions at [email protected]

Personal opinion:If you want friends and family to know whats going on with your business via myspace keep it set to private.

 

[pampermemelody]

No offense to all the writers of this thread, but, is this post productive or helpful? Honestly, If you feel this way about the abusers send a list to HO, but what exactly is helpful about a 9 page angry thread?
Personally, I think they'll get whats coming to them and I'm not bothered by it. I do understand that a lot of you are angry over it, so do something productive to help.
Just my opinion.

AAAAAAA-MEN, SISTER!!!! THANK YOU!!!!! Well said!

 

[sailortena]

I think if people spend hours of time scouring eBay, Myspace, Friendster, etc., for PC contract violations, you are just doing your own business a disservice. Instead, spend that time making phone calls, finding recipes, making host packets, following up on leads!It really saddens me when mature, grown adults revert back to elementary tattle-tales.

 

[BethCooks4U]

OKAY! ENOUGH!

People should be allowed to spend their time however they want without someone calling them things like elementary tattle-tales and other demeaning things that some have felt compelled to say. We are ALL adults and this forum allows us to vent if we need to. OF COURSE we all need to be spending time on our businesses but we don't have to be chastized like we are 3rd graders not doing our homework.

If you don't like a thread DON'T READ IT!

There are a ton of threads on this forum that will help build our businesses. Read those or get on your phone and work on your business. I am so tired of people stepping on others just because they don't like something. Would you talk like this if you were sitting across from each other?

 

[etteluap70PC]

Thank you beth!

I was trying to figure out a way to say exactly what you did. I do get tired of people telling each other how to feel and react. We are all adults... We just need to be here for eachother...

 

[jwpamp]

I hate to even bring this up, but can we do this....

http://www.freewebs.com/homepartiesbytina/pamperedchef.htm

or:
http://www.syracusewedding.com/localpro/the-pampered-chef.htm

No web link is given?

Sorry....had to ask!