Have You Seen Myspace.com Lately?

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around participants' observations and concerns regarding Pampered Chef consultants advertising their businesses on MySpace and Facebook, which some believe violates company policies. Participants share their personal experiences and reactions to these practices, expressing frustration and confusion about the implications for their own businesses.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses shock at finding multiple consultants openly advertising their Pampered Chef businesses on MySpace, suggesting this violates company policy.
  • Another participant shares their experience of discovering a Director from Tennessee promoting various specials on MySpace, labeling it as "sad and wrong."
  • Several users mention seeing numerous listings of consultants on MySpace, with some being very explicit about their business activities.
  • One participant notes that Facebook groups for consultants also contain promotional content, raising similar concerns about policy violations.
  • Another participant reflects on their fear of being reported for mentioning Pampered Chef as their occupation, indicating a sense of anxiety about compliance with company rules.
  • Some participants discuss the differences between MySpace and Facebook, with one noting that Facebook is perceived as more private and secure.
  • One participant shares their belief that consultants should be held accountable for blatant violations of advertising rules, suggesting clearer communication from the company regarding these policies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ significantly among participants, with some expressing strong disapproval of the advertising practices while others share their own cautious approaches to mentioning Pampered Chef in their profiles. No clear consensus emerges regarding the appropriateness of these actions.

Contextual Notes

Participants appear to be primarily concerned with the implications of these advertising practices on their own businesses and the perceived fairness of enforcement of company policies among consultants.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants interested in understanding the community's perspectives on advertising practices and compliance with company policies may find this discussion relevant.

I believe it is also the responsibility of each Director to let the newby consultants know. If it wasn't because I am tenacious, I would have never known and would have probably made the same mistake (because I myself thought of joining the myspace clan). They tell us to advertise but they must be very specific on what advertisement means. Not fair when a newby has to get in trouble. Now if someone who already knows, has had months of training and is still doing the myspace stuff, booyah! And maybe you do deserve to be caught by the PC Police.
 
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All I can say is WOW...I went and changed my information on my myspace so that PC is not mentioned directly. But WOW.....those folks are B A L L S Y!
 
While I can see a newbie's point of view that Director's should tell you these things.....I don't think it would be fair to drop this at a Director's feet. There are SO many things you learn about being a consultant as you go along. There are too many things a Director is already trying to teach you about the business, we can't cover everything all at once. Plus, no one would remember it all anyway...info overload :)

What it all comes down to is that we each need to take responsibility for our own business. We all have access to the same policy and procedure manual. New consultants should be reading through it and making notes of anything they don't understand so they can ask their directors. If we depend on others for our information, we will miss things or maybe not get everything we need.

The HO gives a warning first so if you are new and honestly didn't know, you won't be in big trouble. Someone that has been in the business for a while AND is a director....IMO...NO warning! You know better! No excuses!
 
Ok this may be horrible of me but I have been sending messages thru myspace to the one who are blatantly advertising their website. You know the ones I mean. All I'm saying is that I'm dissapointed thay feel that they do not have to follow the rules. I'm not trying to be mean but they need to know it is not OK.
 
There is another PC group on myspace too. Pampered Chefs unite. I have noticed alot of their members have Pampered Chef at least mentioned on the pages.

(edited to add) I usually do not considder myself the PC police but this has me really ticked. I am not reporting anyone to HO. I just want others to follow the same rules the rest of us are attempting to follow!
 
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Ok this may be horrible of me but I have been sending messages thru myspace to the one who are blatantly advertising their website. You know the ones I mean. All I'm saying is that I'm dissapointed thay feel that they do not have to follow the rules. I'm not trying to be mean but they need to know it is not OK.
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Ohhh, you'll have to let us know what they say back to you and if they change their advertising! :)
 
Paulette, I am cheering you on Girl!! Yes, please let us know what happens.
 
I was also shocked at what I found on facebook! Wow, they are brave! I cant believe they actually are putting their websites on facebook! How annoying!
 
MGG said:
Ok at first I thought you guys were over reacting; I am usually laid back. However I decided to look it up and the more I saw & read I started feeling annoyed with these consultants. It's just so blatantly out there; I wonder if they really are getting any business from it? I think I understand why these women are doing it w/o trying to hide it; if you notice several ladies have their website posted but not linked (they simply removed the hyperlink) and so they believe not to be in violation. I am glad HO sent out a reminder in Weekly Bites about public advertising being against policy, but why haven't they cracked down on this problem? And why is it against policy anyway? i understand why linking should not be allowed but why is advertising our sales and promotions on the web wrong? Not being antagonistic, just curious because I don't see what could be the harm (and for the record I do not have any sort of blog or page except the .biz one from HO ).
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It's wrong because it takes away business from the local sales consultants. It's one thing to gather orders (or even a show) long distance when it's done through a show or from your list of 100, it's another thing to accept orders and direct traffic to your website when you have no relationship with the customer at all. The CORE business of PC is the cooking show, the PWS are designed to complement the cooking show, but not to be the major component of your business (that's why directors have to have minimum personal CORE sales so they stay in touch with what's going on on the consultant level by continuing to BE a consultant as well as a director).

If you advertise your PWS link, then you can "steal" business from other consultants. I know I'd be really annoyed if I developed a relationship with a customer and down the line they misplaced my info and did a web search and ended up placing an order with another consultant simply because it was easier to find them. (Granted that can happen anyway and one reason why we try and keep in touch with our customers).

Also by recruiting on places like myspace it really spreads out the a directors cluster. Some spread is inevitable as consultansts and directors move or go inactive, but if you primary means of recruiting is through the internet, you can't possibly have personal support. Sites like this are great, but aren't supposed to be the ONLY means of support for a consultant (although it often winds up that it is). If makes it harder for recruits to be successful, which means a lot of wasted money for HO. (Turnover costs money)
 
PCJulsan said:
I believe it is also the responsibility of each Director to let the newby consultants know. If it wasn't because I am tenacious, I would have never known and would have probably made the same mistake (because I myself thought of joining the myspace clan). They tell us to advertise but they must be very specific on what advertisement means. Not fair when a newby has to get in trouble. Now if someone who already knows, has had months of training and is still doing the myspace stuff, booyah! And maybe you do deserve to be caught by the PC Police.
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They are extremely specific in the Policies and Procedures -- the problem is that people don't bother to read them.

In the advertising section it details EXACTLY how and what you can advertise.
 
on my personal website have a page devoted to my expierences with direct sales companies and its been there for 4 years now and not once have I ever got a "customer" or "recruit" from it for any direst sales business. While I think we should follow the no advertising rules why can't we mention our jobs? if I was a door greeter at Walmart I would have no fear of Walmart "firing" me because i posted on my website that I held that job. why can we not post that we hold the postion of Ind. Pampered Chef Consultant? This confuses me......posting you do a job is not the same as advertising.
 
jasonmva said:
I used to have my website until I was told I couldn't so now I list me as a consultant. However, MHO is that if I am paying for the website at least, I should be able to list it anywhere I want. If it was given to every consultant then that would be a different story. Sorry but I think HO needs to review some policies already in play and revamp them if they want us to be able to drum up business. We are independent sales for a reason...because we are not on their payroll. If that is the case, then I should be able to advertise MY business anyway I choose.

Again I have changed it so PC police, do not report me.
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Exactly why i cancelled my web site. We used to be able to advertise it, it was nice, i got a lot of business from it search engines ect.
 
I agree with being able to advertise as you please. We pay to be an "independent consultatnt" not an employee! This really irks me. So what if I gained a custmer. I have a great customer base in an area 2.5 hours away from me and guess what. I dont research and there are at least 8, yes I said 8 directors in the area and they hadn't heard of pc since the chicken still sat on the nest. So would it be fair for the directors to gain those customers just b/c they are nearer to them? NO! I'm going to follow the rules, but pc is way to strict when it comes to this.

I'm also confused on how putting pc as your job would be consider advertising. That doesn't make any sense.

Well this was just mho...had to let it out.
 
We were never allowed to advertise our business in any searchable way on the internet. It has always been strictly forbidden.
 
Aren't they only in violation if they are listing a link to their website? They can say they sell PC, can't they? I mention it on my page and never thought that was wrong. Am I wrong?
 
Wow, was just looking and that one gal, I am sure the same one you are talking about!!! Just plain wrong!!!
 
Has anyone actually wrote any of these people just to let them know that they are violating rules, instead of just reporting them?
 
SillyChef said:
Has anyone actually wrote any of these people just to let them know that they are violating rules, instead of just reporting them?
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Yes, some of them have been contacted. I believe a note first is the best way to go. Some of the replies are quite "precious"
 
Jut want you guys to be aware if you are sending notes to the rule breakers. Some of them get very combative and threatening.
 
etteluap70PC said:
Jut want you guys to be aware if you are sending notes to the rule breakers. Some of them get very combative and threatening.
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Just remember: Anger is someone else's attempt to make you feel guilty.
 
Oh yes I know, but when they start threatening to sick the police on you and to interfere with my family I take it personal.

Just type in "help whip cancer" as well as Pampered Chef on myspace you will find a few big time violators.
 
Paullette, I don't blame you one bit.

I did the search and all I can say is wow. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/aktion/action-smiley-060.gif
 
Well, I guess we NOW KNOW that HO isn't so quick to kick these rule breakers out! And, I guess one of these people (a director AND a member of CS) has the gall to just change her myspace address and she STILL lists links to her PWS and is advertising!!!

I'm not one to report people as I feel that they will eventually get their due....but I'm on it now! What's Richard's email address? I'll do it!
 
Someone else found a woman on eBay who was actively recruiting people. Talk about taking the easy way out... :(

Sydna
 
Found this on Craigslist http://seattle.craigslist.org/eve/324007028.html

I think this is a violation but the way things are worded other than not posting your website - The rest is a little murky to me. Maybe I am tryig to find a little loophole??
 
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Someone else found a woman on eBay who was actively recruiting people. Talk about taking the easy way out... :(

Sydna
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Yeah, she/he changed their ID and the listing....talk about someone just begging to be reported. I'll report them too when I find Richard's email address....I'm just in that kind of mood today!:D
 
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I'm so glad our folks on this website have stepped up to the plate and contacted these myspace bozos. I should have done that from the get-go but alas, I did not. Thanks for taking this upon yourselves. Glad my original posting of this subject has moved people......:o
 
pamperedlinda said:
Well, I guess we NOW KNOW that HO isn't so quick to kick these rule breakers out! And, I guess one of these people (a director AND a member of CS) has the gall to just change her myspace address and she STILL lists links to her PWS and is advertising!!!

I'm not one to report people as I feel that they will eventually get their due....but I'm on it now! What's Richard's email address? I'll do it!
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I'm glad you're going to do it. I have emailed him twice this week regarding the ebay seller (selling the business opp...hurry only 5 left!! :rolleyes: )

I know she's been warned once, just recently, why would she risk her directorship for this? Do you really get that much interest generated from listing herself on myspace in that way?
 
I'll come out and say it. I think you're overreacting. I think we SHOULD be able to advertise online. I don't know why we can't and find it silly honestly. I don't advertise on my myspace but I'd sure love too if we could. It's my personal choice to view and follow the rules as I see them and same with others...
Aren't you the ones that "taught" me that about calling sunday's??

This is our own businesses, we should run OUR OWN business as we see fit making our own choices and NOT WORRY about what others do.
 
I totaly understand what you are saying and respect you for saying so!

Here is my take on it:
Yes I may be over reacting but It still makes me mad that people have to try to get arround the rules. I have said before and will again I do not necessarily agree with the online advertising rule, but it's there. I signed a contract to follow company rules and I try to do so to the best of my ability. Why should following the rules be a "Personal Choice"? If people do not like the rules a certian company has then go find one that has different rules that you do like.
I am mad at myself for letting this bother me so much but I am just passionate and want us all to be a "family"

crazy4dabug Please do not take this bad toward you in any way. I have no bad feelings as to what you said. It just struck a cord in me an I had to speak up.

crazy4dabug said:
I'll come out and say it. I think you're overreacting. I think we SHOULD be able to advertise online. I don't know why we can't and find it silly honestly. I don't advertise on my myspace but I'd sure love too if we could. It's my personal choice to view and follow the rules as I see them and same with others...
Aren't you the ones that "taught" me that about calling sunday's??

This is our own businesses, we should run OUR OWN business as we see fit making our own choices and NOT WORRY about what others do.
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