Can I Still Meet the New Requirements for Director Despite Challenges?

[pamperedlinda]

Hey, Linda...I've got your back on CS!!

It's crazy over there! All kinds of bad vibes going on :yuck:

Thanks! I saw that. Some people are just not happy until they make everyone else miserable.

 

[pamperedbecky]

Thanks! I saw that. Some people are just not happy until they make everyone else miserable.

Oh man, what's going on over there NOW?

P.S. and thanks everyone for trying to clarify the SC line question. It does get confusing if it's two SC LINES you need because if a SC's consultant is active, but the SC is not, it still counts as an active line I guess. But if the SC goes too long not being active and loses her title, then it's not considered an SC line anymore?

I swear, the more I think about some of these scenarios, the more confusing it can get!

 

[pamperedlinda]

This was my question to my HO Sales Mgr:

I need clarification on the new plan.

In a perfect world, my team would be at least 4 lines – ALL of which are SC! Or at least 2 of them . I understand that someone from each line has to submit at least $150 for that line to be active. But, if my SC does not submit that month, but her C does – does that mean that the SC is no longer a SC?

Does that make sense?

Example:
Me
--SC – submits $150
---C – submits $150….this scenario is good for that line

Example:
Me
--SC – submits 0
---C – submits $200….line is active, but is the SC still an SC since she did not submit? And, I guess that would take my team down to only one SC?

Here's the answer I got from Rachel Geitzen:

Thanks for the question. You are correct, if your SC does not submit sales she is not qualified as an SC. If you refer to page 8 of the career plan spiral book from Leadership, it does show that the requirements for SC are to be active yourself and have 1 active recruit. Does that clarify things?

 

[amy07]

It seems like it is a VERY slippery slope of keeping/losing those SC's - makes me feel even more pressure---ackkkK!!

 

[BethCooks4U]

It seems like it is a VERY slippery slope of keeping/losing those SC's - makes me feel even more pressure---ackkkK!!

You've got that right. Unless you have a lot of SC's to draw from you could be in and out of directorship every month. I can only wish that they see that it causes so much more stress and that a lot of directors (even upper level) are "hurt" by this and they change it before they lose too many.

They are doing it to "grow the company" (a quote from an email from Jean in response to a question I sent her). Minor changes like as long as the SC OR their recruit submits or something like that would really help. I feel like the focus on recruiting is overboard right now. Maybe once things sort out and we're used to it we'll all feel better but in the meantime the pressure EVERY month will push away some really good people, I think.

 

[finley1991]

I feel like the focus on recruiting is overboard right now.

Do you think that we've lost a ton of consultants and this is why they are so focused on recruiting? I don't think I've lost any more than I have since I've become a director so I'm not sure. Just wondering why the intense focus?

Growth, retention?

 

[jwpamp]

Here's the answer I got from Rachel Geitzen:

Thanks for the question. You are correct, if your SC does not submit sales she is not qualified as an SC. If you refer to page 8 of the career plan spiral book from Leadership, it does show that the requirements for SC are to be active yourself and have 1 active recruit. Does that clarify things?

I stand corrected! Sorry, guys!

I was referring to pg 13 in the New Career Plan, which is the slide she showed at the meeting.

Again, I am so sorry -- and sooooo confused!!!!!!!

I think that the only thing that I can do is to recruit MORE!!!!!

 

[amy07]

You've got that right. Unless you have a lot of SC's to draw from you could be in and out of directorship every month. I can only wish that they see that it causes so much more stress and that a lot of directors (even upper level) are "hurt" by this and they change it before they lose too many.

They are doing it to "grow the company" (a quote from an email from Jean in response to a question I sent her). Minor changes like as long as the SC OR their recruit submits or something like that would really help. I feel like the focus on recruiting is overboard right now. Maybe once things sort out and we're used to it we'll all feel better but in the meantime the pressure EVERY month will push away some really good people, I think.

well, I guess technically that's not true....since you keep your "title" for 3 months....but in reality, I could care less about the title, I want the pay! And losing the production bonus for being paid as a TL vs. D can really hurt alot!

 

[pamperedlinda]

Here's the answer I got from Rachel Geitzen:

Thanks for the question. You are correct, if your SC does not submit sales she is not qualified as an SC. If you refer to page 8 of the career plan spiral book from Leadership, it does show that the requirements for SC are to be active yourself and have 1 active recruit. Does that clarify things?

I stand corrected! Sorry, guys!

I was referring to pg 13 in the New Career Plan, which is the slide she showed at the meeting.

Again, I am so sorry -- and sooooo confused!!!!!!!

I think that the only thing that I can do is to recruit MORE!!!!!

No worries Janice - it is confusing!

 

[BethCooks4U]

well, I guess technically that's not true....since you keep your "title" for 3 months....but in reality, I could care less about the title, I want the pay! And losing the production bonus for being paid as a TL vs. D can really hurt alot!

I really meant in and out of "PAID AS" director. Many will retain the title because the chance that both will submit in the same month once every 3 months is good.

 

[amy07]

I know Beth. It's really a balancing act. In a good way, it does force us all to focus on having a good balanced & consistent business. Unfortunately, for me & others without good stable Teams that are deep & wide it is going to be very stressful.
Although I imagine for many upper levels who have been coasting along, it has got to be very concerning as well......

 

[BethCooks4U]

Do you think that we've lost a ton of consultants and this is why they are so focused on recruiting? I don't think I've lost any more than I have since I've become a director so I'm not sure. Just wondering why the intense focus?

Growth, retention?

I don't know but I do know that some of mine are thinking of dropping off because they don't want the pressure so I think they will lose a lot of people. There will be more short term consultants. Directors+ who don't succeed because of the pressure of counting on what others do will leave. I think it will actually cut down on the number of people. The plus for HO is that when we don't perform at our level (when others don't perform) we get paid less so they save money. Before we were paid at our title for 3 months before we started to lose. Now we lose each month we or our team doesn't submit - one person can lose that pay for us.

I have made it clear to my team that while I would like them to submit every month and that it would be to their benefit and that they will hear more about recruiting and submitting shows (incentives for both from me) I will not pressure them for more than they want to do. It is THEIR business. I am looking for new people and hopefully among those on the team some will catch fire and they will inspire the others. They know that I lose if they don't sell but that won't make it month after month for some of them.

 

[jwpamp]

Do you think that we've lost a ton of consultants and this is why they are so focused on recruiting? I don't think I've lost any more than I have since I've become a director so I'm not sure. Just wondering why the intense focus?Growth, retention?

I haven't lost any -- as a matter of fact, my Team is recruiting (which never happened before). I think that we will have those who want to recruit and those who don't, just like before.And as far as retention -- those who now have a "line" want to work their business so that they make more $$....

 

[pamperedlinda]

I agree Amy, when we have a small team that is relatively unproducttive it is still stressfull. However, what helps to relieve the stress from me now is knowing that I WILL NOT lose them! Even though I may bounce around on the pay-scale for a while, I am encouraged in knowing that my team is intact and that they will not roll-up to an up-line that does not deserve to have them. I look at this new plan in a positive way that will help me to grow my team and not in a negative way that will take my team away from me while I face growing challenges.

 

[amy07]

I agree Amy, when we have a small team that is relatively unproducttive it is still stressfull. However, what helps to relieve the stress from me now is knowing that I WILL NOT lose them! Even though I may bounce around on the pay-scale for a while, I am encouraged in knowing that my team is intact and that they will not roll-up to an up-line that does not deserve to have them. I look at this new plan in a positive way that will help me to grow my team and not in a negative way that will take my team away from me while I face growing challenges.

excellent point! And atleast if we are TL we are still eligible for leads (even if I rarely get them now)

 

[BethCooks4U]

I agree Amy, when we have a small team that is relatively unproducttive it is still stressfull. However, what helps to relieve the stress from me now is knowing that I WILL NOT lose them! Even though I may bounce around on the pay-scale for a while, I am encouraged in knowing that my team is intact and that they will not roll-up to an up-line that does not deserve to have them. I look at this new plan in a positive way that will help me to grow my team and not in a negative way that will take my team away from me while I face growing challenges.

That is the BEST part of the new program!

 

[Christ Follower]

It seems like it is a VERY slippery slope of keeping/losing those SC's - makes me feel even more pressure---ackkkK!!

I totally agree. I think PC will be saving TONS of money with this new plan. Some will get a raise but for many it looks like it will be a big roller coaster month-to-month to see what level they will be paid at.

 

[Christ Follower]

I agree Amy, when we have a small team that is relatively unproducttive it is still stressfull. However, what helps to relieve the stress from me now is knowing that I WILL NOT lose them! Even though I may bounce around on the pay-scale for a while, I am encouraged in knowing that my team is intact and that they will not roll-up to an up-line that does not deserve to have them. I look at this new plan in a positive way that will help me to grow my team and not in a negative way that will take my team away from me while I face growing challenges.

Thanks for that reminder. DH is out of work due to an injury on the job so I have more pressure to make the bigger PC $. I don't like the bouncing around from month to month thing but at least we don't lose our people. That is a really great thing.

 

[jwpamp]

I am using the new plan to my Team's benefit....they are becoming very competitive and making it a little "game" to see who is going to do better -- it's great for THEM!!I have also seen a HUGE jump in $1000 shows on my Team. One consultant just called and told me she had her 4th show over $1000 in a ROW last night! She is sharing her success secrets (host coaching and using the DCB at every show) and my other Team members are listening. I have 3 other consultants who are also doing $1000 shows.In all of this, I am getting more leads at my shows, and so I am trying to give my team more ideas about watching for people that they can HELP by giving them info about the business. I just ask my Team -- has this business given you something back (flexibility, money, confidence, etc)? When they say "Yes", I ask them -- "then why wouldn't you want to share this op with others who could use it, too?"They are getting it. It's not pushy, it's offering. I am not holding any down to make them sign up, I am not tricking them into signing up. THEY will benefit if they even TRY this business.My Team is not shrinking with the new plan, it's growing!I am confident in the fact that this is a good business and that it can work for many people if they just try it. I believe in the product and the business. My team is starting to believe, too. When you believe, it will happen.

 

[quiverfull7]

Wow! Thank you all for the positive spin on things. I needed to read all of this this morning. The company my DH works for has declared bankruptcy and hopes to reorganize but for now, for 2 - 4 months, dh will be paid by the bank. After that time frame things are a bit sketchy but we know it will all work out. He asked me what I had to do to make more money without leaving home more and giggled at me. I told him his prayer topic for me was for all my consultants to be active and promote! I thought that was a fairly easy subject don't you? I needed to read what y'all have posted to motivate me and I just praise God for each of you this morning! I love this job and I love working with my team and I want them to grow their own teams. I want them to feel the exhilaration I felt walking across that stage as a Director! I need to examine more closely what I'm not doing and what I am doing to inspire them further. Thanks everyone!

 

[jwpamp]

Oh, and I wanted to share something that I told my Team at our last meeting...people ARE signing up with the company -- they signed 4000 new consultants in March.

SOMEONE is going to sign them up. Why not let it be YOU?

 

[Mel5497]

I love your post Janice. I remember when you were having doubts about the program and worried that it wouldn't work for you. It is just so great to read you and your team are kicking patootie...and that you are doing it by focusing on all the good stuff PC can bring to folks (be they customers, hosts or consultants).

 

[jwpamp]

Hey, Kris! Thanks for the post!I asked my NED and she said that they wouldn't be changing the plan back just because I didn't like it --- so I figured I better change with it!