Bar pan or rectangular baker for baking a cake for trifle?

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Discussion Overview

This thread explores the experiences and preferences of participants regarding the choice between using a bar pan or a rectangular baker for baking a cake intended for a trifle. Participants share their baking techniques, tips for ensuring the cake comes out easily, and variations they use in their cake recipes.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, mentions using a square stoneware pan regularly without issues related to cake release.
  • Another participant shares their experience of using the Large Bar Pan, adjusting the baking time from standard directions and suggesting freezing leftover cake for future trifles.
  • Several users mention using Baker's Joy spray instead of parchment paper to prevent sticking, with one participant noting a preference for a denser cake by adding pudding mix and an extra egg.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about using cook and serve pudding instead of instant pudding, while another encourages experimentation.
  • Another participant describes successfully flipping the cake out of the pan to cool, attributing the ease to the nonstick properties of their bar pan.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the best method for baking a cake for a trifle, with no clear consensus on whether to use a bar pan or rectangular baker. Participants share various techniques and preferences without a unified approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss personal experiences with different baking methods and ingredients, focusing on achieving desired cake texture and ease of removal from the baking pan.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants interested in baking techniques for trifles or those looking for tips on cake preparation may find this discussion relevant.

babywings76
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When you are baking a cake to have for your trifle, do you cook it in the bar pan or the rectangular baker? Do you line it with parchment paper to lift it out after it's done baking? If it should be made in the bar pan, what should the cooking time be?
 
I usually bake a cake regularly in the square stoneware pan. I've never had any problems with it coming out of the pan. Then it's uniform to cut into pieces.
 
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Darn, I don't have the square pan yet. :)
 
Last time I used a regular box (NOT Jiffy size) in the Large Bar Pan. I decreased the time a little from the 13x9 directions and made sure to check it often.

It makes probably twice as much as you'll need, but use half the cake for the trifle and freeze the remaining for the next trifle.
 
I use my LBP for them. No parchment paper...but I DO spray it with Baker's Joy (NOT Pam!!) just to assure me it will come out without sticking.

325 for 20-25 minutes. I use probably 2/3 of the cake for a trifle. We suffer and eat the rest of the cake plain!! lol

Anytime I am making a cake for a trifle, I doctor the mix up a bit for more of a "poundcake" texture. Add one small box of instant pudding (just the powder, use a corresponding flavor) and add one more egg than what's called for on the box. Other than that, follow the amount of water and oil from the box.
 
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I'll try it in the bar pan and let you know how it turns out. I think I'll try using the parchment paper, too and see if that helps get it out easily. Thanks for your help! :)
 
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KellyTheChef said:
I use my LBP for them. No parchment paper...but I DO spray it with Baker's Joy (NOT Pam!!) just to assure me it will come out without sticking.

325 for 20-25 minutes. I use probably 2/3 of the cake for a trifle. We suffer and eat the rest of the cake plain!! lol

Anytime I am making a cake for a trifle, I doctor the mix up a bit for more of a "poundcake" texture. Add one small box of instant pudding (just the powder, use a corresponding flavor) and add one more egg than what's called for on the box. Other than that, follow the amount of water and oil from the box.

Oh, thanks for posting this...good tip about the Baker's Joy. I'll try that instead of the parchment. Good idea about the addition of pudding mix to the cake. I'll try that too. You guys are so awesome! I love all the help you provide! :)
 
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KellyTheChef said:
I use my LBP for them. No parchment paper...but I DO spray it with Baker's Joy (NOT Pam!!) just to assure me it will come out without sticking.

325 for 20-25 minutes. I use probably 2/3 of the cake for a trifle. We suffer and eat the rest of the cake plain!! lol

Anytime I am making a cake for a trifle, I doctor the mix up a bit for more of a "poundcake" texture. Add one small box of instant pudding (just the powder, use a corresponding flavor) and add one more egg than what's called for on the box. Other than that, follow the amount of water and oil from the box.

Oh NO Kelly! I put in the extra egg, and then when I was about to put in the pudding mix, I realized it was a cook n serve style. Will that work, do you think?
 
Thanks for the tips, Kelly! I usually make a brownie trifle and was wondering about using cake instead...I'm thinking the egg and pudding makes the cake more dense?
 
babywings76 said:
I was about to put in the pudding mix, I realized it was a cook n serve style. Will that work, do you think?
Cook and Serve pudding probably won't work. It's different chemically from the instant - different starches. But I dare you to try it. ;)
 
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I just ran next door to my friend's house and borrowed a box of instant pudding from her. :) Didn't want to take my chances of it not coming out right.ETA--Yeah, Ann, I double-dog-dare you! J/K ;)
 
Great idea to add an extra egg and pudding! I've created a full mix into the rectangular stone, lined with parchment (as the trifle recipe called for kahlua to soak in it for 2 hours I wanted to get every last drop out!) All the cake isn't used, but it is fabulous as left-overs! It was a Paula Deen recipe. Yummy. I'll try the Baker's Joy.
 
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Okay, it's out of the oven. Now, should I let it cool and stay in the bar pan, or cool and then flip it out onto a cooling rack?
 
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anyone? I've never heard from people about flipping them out to cool all the way, is that what I should do?
 
You can flip it out - that keeps condensation from making the bottom soggy. But if you're putting it into a trifle, it's going to get moist from filling, anyway.
 
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Thanks! It flipped out so easily! I guess that Baker's Joy really did do the trick! :)
 
My bar pan is super nonstick - I make bacon in it all the time! I don't have any problems getting things out of it. (Of course, I'll cry when it breaks...)
 
twopamperedchefs said:
Thanks for the tips, Kelly! I usually make a brownie trifle and was wondering about using cake instead...I'm thinking the egg and pudding makes the cake more dense?

Yes...and more moist too!

I actually do this ANYTIME I am making a cake, just cuz I like my cakes more dense and moist rather than light and "spongy".
 
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It turned out wonderful (I snitched a couple of the left over peices), thank you Kelly for the suggestions. Now, after we eat the trifle I'll let you know how this recipe is. :)
 

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the difference between a bar pan and a rectangular baker for baking a cake for trifle?

A bar pan is typically shallower and has a larger surface area, making it ideal for baking thin cakes or brownies. A rectangular baker, on the other hand, is deeper and can hold more batter, making it suitable for thicker cakes that can be layered for a trifle.

Can I use a bar pan to bake a cake for trifle?

Yes, you can use a bar pan to bake a cake for trifle, especially if you prefer a thinner layer. Just keep in mind that the cake will need to be cut into smaller pieces to fit into the trifle dish.

What type of cake works best in a rectangular baker for trifle?

A rectangular baker is great for baking denser cakes, such as pound cakes or sponge cakes, which can hold up well when layered with other ingredients in a trifle. These cakes can be cut into thicker slices, providing a sturdy base for your trifle.

How do I adjust baking times when using a bar pan versus a rectangular baker?

Baking times may vary based on the pan used. Generally, cakes baked in a bar pan will cook faster due to the larger surface area and shallower depth. Check for doneness a few minutes earlier than the recipe suggests when using a bar pan.

Can I use the same recipe for both a bar pan and a rectangular baker?

Yes, you can use the same recipe for both pans, but you may need to adjust the baking time and temperature. Be sure to monitor the cake closely to ensure it doesn’t overbake or underbake based on the pan size.

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