What would you wish for at HO's Leadership event?

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Discussion Overview

This thread explores various wishes participants have for announcements at the upcoming Leadership event, focusing on business-related topics rather than product requests or trip destinations.

Discussion Character

  • Opinion-based
  • Anecdotal
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, wishes for a raise.
  • Another participant shares their experience of wanting new trip incentives that allow for earning within three months instead of a year.
  • Several users mention the desire for commission bonuses related to hosts' purchases and better commission rates on fundraisers.
  • One participant expresses a wish for improved email capabilities, including links to website areas and newsletter tracking.
  • Another participant proposes a Director By-Pass system to manage downline promotions and avoid income loss.
  • Some participants suggest regional contests to level the playing field among consultants.
  • One participant expresses a desire for a more efficient system for entering host information across platforms.
  • Another participant, identifying as a director, wishes for a leave of absence policy for health-related issues.
  • Several users mention the need for better fundraiser programs and incentives for consultants who do not wish to recruit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the feasibility and potential impact of proposed changes, particularly regarding the Director By-Pass suggestion, which some participants believe could lead to backlash.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and wishes based on their roles within the Pampered Chef community, reflecting a range of perspectives on business practices and incentives.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants interested in discussing potential changes to business practices and incentives within the Pampered Chef community may find this thread relevant.

amy07
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What ONE thing would you like to see HO announce at Leadership? Please do not include your product wish list, as that needs its on thread!

And let's please keep this to serious (no Brad Pitt visits and what not) BUSINESS related items. Also please don't list trip destinations as we will all find that out in a few short weeks!

Think carefully........you may just get it!:cool:
 
A Raise!!!!!
 
New trip incentives - 3 months to earn a trip rather than an entire year.

An increase in commission would be nice, too!
 
Some type of commission or 'bonus' (trip points maybe?) for our hosts' purchases.
 
Better commision on fundraisers!
 
This is boring compared to a raise, but I wish we could have links to our website areas put into our e-mails. And/or a way to send out a newsletter from our PWS that could be tracked to see how many are opened. Also I'd like to know how many times my website is accessed. It would be great if we could put our newsletters together with wording available from HO like we have wording available for our PWS. KWIM?
 
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I'm ready to take a beating for this, but.......................
Here's mine: Director By-Pass aside from Relinquishment

Here's what I mean: If you promote to a Director level higher than your 1st line Director, she would have a certain time frame to promote herself or else lose you and your team to the next upline Director. If there is no one for you to roll up to, then you would fall under HO Direct.

Can you imagine the amount of money HO would be saving in Director overrides. Someone once told me that there is nothing wrong in my business that can't be solved by recruiting........;)

So basically:
If you are a Director, you cannot have an AD or above in your first line
If you are an AD, you cannot have a SD or above in your first line
SD - no Exec in your first line
Exec - no SED
SED - no NED

If an upper level Director loses a Director level due to relinquishment of a downline Director I think they should have atleast 6 months to regain their status for EACH relinquished Director.
Ex. SD Betty has 4 Directors. 1 relinquishes making her an AD. SD Betty also has a SD (Wilma) in her 1st line. Betty must now re-promote as a SD in x months in order to maintain SD Wilma.

Does that make sense?

Of course there would have to be some kind of Grandfather clause for those that are already in this situation.
 
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On second thought, maybe Leadership would NOT be the time to announce something like that. I think it would cause a riot!
 
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I'd like to see...

...contests on a regional level. So many times, I've had what was (I thought) a rockin' good month, only to find that those on the East Coast have smoked me out of the water. So maybe do something by region...like Midwest, New England, Northwest, etc. Or by state. That could be fun.

...breakdown of that map Marla showed at National Conference and one for the national level. I was just thinking about that map of the Chicagoland area, and something horrible struck my mind. Remember how the map wasn't labeled and Marla (it was Marla, right?) said that just north or whatever of that "saturated" market was a place where there was nothing? I grew up in Chicagoland, and I'm now wondering if that nothing place was the airport. ( I know, it's a horrible thought that they'd pull this!) Those of you familiar with Chicagoland know where O'Hare is situated...I mean, south of that is what, Bensenville, Franklin Park, and then Elmhurst? Just to the west of O'Hare is like Elk Grove Village, Schaumburg, Hoffman Estates. Anyway, I'd love to see a map like that we can all use for our areas. (And then I'd check the map for Chicago, just to shut myself up.)
 
Amy, I love the way you think. There would be HUGE backlash from that one, though. A lot of people would lose a lot of income.
 
JAE said:
This is boring compared to a raise, but I wish we could have links to our website areas put into our e-mails. And/or a way to send out a newsletter from our PWS that could be tracked to see how many are opened. Also I'd like to know how many times my website is accessed. It would be great if we could put our newsletters together with wording available from HO like we have wording available for our PWS. KWIM?

I totally agree. I find the website too hard to email my contacts from (other than for shows). I hate not being able to personalize it (change fonts, sizes, etc).

On the contest note, I would like it to be level oriented - like the top 5 consultants, FD, D, AD, etc... That would level the playing field for those of us stuck at FD level, or whatever.
 
I would like to only enter the host information ONCE. Like only needing to input the info into our PWS and then be able to pull it over it into P3 (like we can with orders via the PWS for a show)
 
Amy, I like your way of thinking, too.....I have never really understood why it was acceptable to have an upper level D in your downline! I don't think HO would ever let this happen though!

I would like to see
better ways to do a fundraiser and more $ for the people we would do them for
change in commission rate
training for "old" Directors equivalent to the NDA
 
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DebbieJ said:
Amy, I love the way you think. There would be HUGE backlash from that one, though. A lot of people would lose a lot of income.

That's true. But that is why I think there should be some kind of grandfather clause.
 
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But it would provide a way for a Consultant to remove herself from an unfavorable Director. Promote yourself to where you want to be, hmmmmm. How many would work harder for HO?
 
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chefmeg said:
Amy, I like your way of thinking, too.....I have never really understood why it was acceptable to have an upper level D in your downline! I don't think HO would ever let this happen though!
I would like to see
better ways to do a fundraiser and more $ for the people we would do them for
change in commission rate
training for "old" Directors equivalent to the NDA


In all honesty, maybe HO has never really taken on how often in occurs and to what level. I'd like to believe that Doris didn't think there would be those who would take advantage of the system. Or should I say, that the levels wouldn't "flow". Obviously when you look at the P&P, as a whole they want to help those who promote themselves. Thus a Consultant who promotes to Director before her recruiter rolls up. Seems like the rest of the lineage should follow. But again, that is why it is my wish......
 
KellyTheChef said:
I would like to only enter the host information ONCE. Like only needing to input the info into our PWS and then be able to pull it over it into P3 (like we can with orders via the PWS for a show)

If you sync P3 with your PWS, you basically just have to search for the host's personal info, type in the date, and you're done.
 
So would I add my host to my PWS first, or to P3?

Would I have to "resync" before searching for the new person?

Sorry, Deb...I am just not following!! Blame it on baby brain!! lol
 
I would like to see the ability to earn points on the host specials. Also a better fundraiser program!
 
A Decent Fundraiser Program
 
As a director in re-promotion due to illness (Thyroid Cancer), I would like to see some type of leave of absense that gives you time to recover from something like this. I am quite certain I will lose everything I have worked for when this is all said and done!
 
I would like to see an incentive track for consultants that don't have a knack or desire to recruit. They love the products and the parties, but leading a team is just not for them.

I would have to second (or third) the wish to earn incentive points for the Host 1/2 price and 60% items.

A higher commission rate. Even if it is just 5% that would be a good increase from where we are now. That little bit can make a huge difference in a family's budget.
 
A better fundraiser program. I liked the product fundraiser we used to have. I would like to see the organization get a better percentage. There are much better programs out there. A commission raise would be great too. And, it would be nice to get something for the host specials and half-price items...at least points for the trips. I understand that most companies make consultants pay for their host items. I think its great that we don't have to, but it would be nice to get some kind of "reward" for it.
 
pjpamchef said:
As a director in re-promotion due to illness (Thyroid Cancer), I would like to see some type of leave of absense that gives you time to recover from something like this. I am quite certain I will lose everything I have worked for when this is all said and done!


I would like to second this one. Although my illness was not nearly what you are overcoming, I tried to work with HO to maintain my directorship since it is fairly new and no deal. So I am in re-promotion.
 
Definately an improved fundraiser program...a raise is always nice too...love the idea of points for host purchases!
 
Chef Kearns said:
I would like to see an incentive track for consultants that don't have a knack or desire to recruit. They love the products and the parties, but leading a team is just not for them.

I would have to second (or third) the wish to earn incentive points for the Host 1/2 price and 60% items.

A higher commission rate. Even if it is just 5% that would be a good increase from where we are now. That little bit can make a huge difference in a family's budget.

I would like this too!

And also a different Fundraiser structure or higher percentage....and to be able to at least earn points for Hosts 1/2 price items....
 
amy07 said:
In all honesty, maybe HO has never really taken on how often in occurs and to what level. I'd like to believe that Doris didn't think there would be those who would take advantage of the system. Or should I say, that the levels wouldn't "flow". Obviously when you look at the P&P, as a whole they want to help those who promote themselves. Thus a Consultant who promotes to Director before her recruiter rolls up. Seems like the rest of the lineage should follow. But again, that is why it is my wish......
I don't think it's taking advantage of the system if you have a recruit that is amazing.

I think it's fair (but hard for the passed up consultant) to have a director bypass if her recruiter isn't at least a director but I think when it comes to upper levels it should stay as is. Part of our job is to encourage our team to promote and if they happen to be on fire their director shouldn't be punished if she doesn't promote as quickly.


I do think they should find a way to allow consultants to change directors without waiting 12 months though. Maybe have them resign and pay for a new kit or give something to the recruiter like they do for those that live in the US and recruit a Canadian consultant.
 
BethCooks4U said:
I don't think it's taking advantage of the system if you have a recruit that is amazing.

I think it's fair (but hard for the passed up consultant) to have a director bypass if her recruiter isn't at least a director but I think when it comes to upper levels it should stay as is. Part of our job is to encourage our team to promote and if they happen to be on fire their director shouldn't be punished if she doesn't promote as quickly.


I do think they should find a way to allow consultants to change directors without waiting 12 months though. Maybe have them resign and pay for a new kit or give something to the recruiter like they do for those that live in the US and recruit a Canadian consultant.

What if that director is an SD who doesn't do ANYTHING except meet the bare minimums monthly (Doesn't even have a website!) in order to collect the $8000 in commission she makes monthly from first line who have all promoted past her? I know someone like this, and it is totally unfair. She actually earned TPC in 2 categories this past year without working for it at all, and didn't even realize she was supposed to walk the stage. THAT is how out of it she is.
 
ChefBeckyD said:
What if that director is an SD who doesn't do ANYTHING except meet the bare minimums monthly (Doesn't even have a website!) in order to collect the $8000 in commission she makes monthly from first line who have all promoted past her? I know someone like this, and it is totally unfair. She actually earned TPC in 2 categories this past year without working for it at all, and didn't even realize she was supposed to walk the stage. THAT is how out of it she is.

I agree that in that kind of case it is not right that she should get so much for doing nothing but if the director is working her business she shouldn't be penalized because she inspired someone to promote past her just because some others don't work their business.
 
I know a former director in our area that did NOTHING for years except sell her PC items she purchased to meet her minimum's on eBay so that she would still get the overrides on my AD and her downline~it was well worth spending the $250 (now changed to $750) a month to make over $2000 on a downline she never supported~there has to be some accountability for Directors....somehow HO needs to see that there are people gaining income without giving the support we are asked to give when we sign our Director agreement.
 

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