What are your thoughts on the new sheet pans from our company?

[DebbieSAChef]

What does everyone think of the sheet pans?? I was at a cluster meeting last night and was told at leadership you could have dropped a pin and heard it, there was total silence when this was announced as a new product. And a room full of thousands of women with total silence, wow!

Anyway we are programmed as consultants to tell people stones are the way to go. Metal sheet pans are not the way to go. So now I understand because so many women use these, we are now able to give them a choice.

I was surprised the pans cost almost as much as the stones. I know they are designed really well.

I just want some opinions.
Debbie

 

[janetupnorth]

Personally I like my metal pans for some things and I know there are others that do. I use my stoneware a lot too...just each has its purpose in my house.I am looking forward to getting rid of some warped cheaper metal pans for some decent quality ones that AREN'T THE STUPID AIR BAKE ONES THAT CAN BE DUNKED IN WATER...Sorry, just a moment of tension there...

 

[pamperedharriet]

I know what you mean, Janet. As soon as I get my PC metal pans the "cheap old save me for when I need a metal pans" are going to be tossed out.

 

[vwpamperedchef]

I heard the same thing Debbie, it was so silent in the room!

I think because "most people" and I am going on a limb to say "majority" use metal pans (ie, the people who like to use soap, that think soap kills the germs, which its really a degreaser), anyhoo...I think PC wants to attract a larger audience if it sells the metal pans.

Am I making sense? LOL Hope so!

 

[rennea]

Right now Debbie I'm doing a little happy dance


I can't wait for the new pans to come in:chef:

 

[pamperedlinda]

DH ruined my old metal pans doing something with them on the grill. Every now and then I need a good metal pan with sides on it and I dont' have one, and I'm too cheap to buy one. I can't wait to get mine in my SAT package!

 

[DebbieSAChef]

I am anxiousI am really anxious to try them out too. I threw out my cheap, burnt, warped pans when I got my stoneware. I don't miss them at all.

But I have never had a nice, sturdy metal pan. It will be nice and I am anxious to introduce them to those who are just not wanting to switch to stoneware completely.

It's a great way to sell to those who love metal pans but hate those cheap pans that are ugly!!!

Debbie

 

[chef131doreen]

Yes it was very QUIET in that room. We are all about choices some will like it some will not . We are going to have a great deal of people that will only want stoneware but we are also going to have people that want really good metel pans

 

[DebbieSAChef]

Other new items??What do you all think of the new Mega Scraper, Collapsable bowl, and dots dinnerware?

Personally I like all three. Neat concepts. Even the Collander set looks great and better than the old ones. They even come with lids.

Are the twixit clips only available with the towels???

I'm still not too crazy about the outdoor stuff, but it might grow on me. Outdoor party sticks, hmmmmm I just can't see me selling lots of those. I never put my drink down on the ground for fear of bugs.

I love the cookware protectors and I am glad the avocado peeler is back.

Debbie

 

[baychef]

It was quiet when they introduced SA for the first time. They were just the white and they had them on a gray back ground. On the screen they looked like Tupperware (no offense, but why repeat what is already on the market). I believe that was the first year they had the product showcase and once we got to see them displayed, and felt them...it was WOW!

My initial reaction was a little shocked, but just hearing about them makes me happy that we have them to add to our line. Hearing that they are heavy duty, too makes me happy!

 

[Intrepid_Chef]

I'm excited about them because it gives people a choice. My friend is nervous about stoneware because she's afraid her husband will soak hers in dishwater.As for me, I'm excited to have a choice. I was unable to bake any cookies bound for my sister's house on my one and only stone because I accidentally baked peanut butter cookies on it ... and her son has a life-threatening peanut and tree nut allergy! HQ recommended separate stones ... and of course, I only had one. As much as I am growing to love my stone, I do not trust hot water or baking soda to remove dangerous nut oils. I'll just be happy to have something I can put in my over-heated oven where I don't have to double up the pans to avoid burning!

 

[rennea]

I purchased very good metal pans about 13 years ago and they cost me a mint at the time. But I still have them!! They are well used and no longer shinny. About 3 years ago I purchased another one I believe I paid about $40 for it, I use it to transport and keep all my supplies tiddy that I'm using to cook or bake with around the kitchen. I also use it with a rack for pouring chocolate over sweets as to not make a huge mess.

 

[baychef]

What do you all think of the new Mega Scraper, Collapsable bowl, and dots dinnerware?

Personally I like all three. Neat concepts. Even the Collander set looks great and better than the old ones. They even come with lids.

Are the twixit clips only available with the towels???

I'm still not too crazy about the outdoor stuff, but it might grow on me. Outdoor party sticks, hmmmmm I just can't see me selling lots of those. I never put my drink down on the ground for fear of bugs.

I love the cookware protectors and I am glad the avocado peeler is back.

Debbie

I think the Outdoor party sticks will be great. There are so many ideas other than drinks. Sometimes when going to see fireworks it is difficult to bring a drink and set it on the ground. (wow...just don't get up and leave it for someone to trip over!!). The idea with the party hats with brown paper liners filled with peanuts and popcorn were great too.

I like the Dots dinnerware, but I don't have a large customer base for them. I am always hopeful, though.

My secretary is crazy about the lilac and avocado dot towels!! Not my favorite colors, but it will make a great birthday gift for her!

 

[finley1991]

I've been thinking about this a lot and came to a conclusion after really thinking it through...HO only does what's in our best interest, right? So when they came out with the stainless cookware, they said because more people (and they gave us the statistics) buy stainless than nonstick so they gave us the tools to be able to sell to that market.With these metal pans, they said that 60% or something like that will buy a metal pan for uses other than baking. So that's 60% of the market we were missing out on.... as someone else mentioned.... if people are going to buy it, why not be able to get it from us?

 

[janetupnorth]

Here is my selling point for themo any of you have a husband who just cannot get it in their head NOT to dunk your good stoneware in water, or not to put it in the dishwasher! Well, now PC has thought of your sanity and introduced a great line of heavy duty sheet pans. Have one or two on hand for DH to use when you are not around. He can put soap on them, put them in the dishwasher and you won't have to cry because he wrecked them or do dishes when you get home because he is afraid to wash them for fear of doing something wrong. Better yet, they don't warp like the ones you get at Walmart.

 

[letscook04]

I don't miss my metal pans at ALL!!:yuck:

Everyone is different, some people perfer stainless over non-stick.

 

[Intrepid_Chef]

I like the way you think, Janet! If I can pull together the money to attend conference, I'd love to meet ya at Wave 1!

 

[rennea]

Here is my selling point for them:

Do any of you have a husband who just cannot get it in their head NOT to dunk your good stoneware in water, or not to put it in the dishwasher! Well, now PC has thought of your sanity and introduced a great line of heavy duty metal pans. Have one or two on hand for DH to use when you are not around. He can put soap on them, put them in the dishwasher and you won't have to cry because he wrecked them or do dishes when you get home because he is afraid to wash them for fear of doing something wrong. Better yet, they don't warp like the ones you get at Walmart.

Excellent!! Janet Excellent!!

 

[PamperChefCarol]

Myself, I am loving the idea of the new sheet pans. Everyone.. put away your knives, but I will say it.... I don't bake cookies, etc on stoneware! I don't tell my customers that, and do have a ton of stoneware that I use on a regular basis at home ( LOVE the rectangular baker!!!! LOVE the bar pan for bacon!!! LOVE the pizza/round stone for pizza!!) but I want a good, heavy metal pan for somethings. My Director told me these are awesome: weight-wise, etc. I can't wait. My husband, who is the cookie baker at our house, would never use a bar pan for cookies, but I can't wait to tell him he is getting new sheet pans. I can already predict that I will be hard pressed to keep one in my kit!!!

This is the reason I signed up with PC. They adapt and have truly something for everyone. I am now a happy camper; first the SS cookware, and now the pans. I am seriously questioning the re-design of the grapefruit knife (I adore the old one and have 2!) but besides that, bring back the cherry pitter and I am good!!

 

[Christ Follower]

They are broiler safe, stoneware is not. That's a good thing to know about these pans and why others need them in addition to Stoneware.

 

[chefsteph07]

I don't miss my metal pans at ALL!!:yuck:

Everyone is different, some people perfer stainless over non-stick.

I haven't cooked on metal pans in over 5 yrs...and probably don't know how to do it right anyway! Is this going to provide even heat distributuion like the stones? Are these going to be a selling point primarily for cookies? Reason I ask is bc at Thanksgiving I went to my parents (who use metal pans) and she asked me to make a simple batch of crescent rolls on her pans, well, I ended up burning the bottoms of the rolls bc, as I always say at my shows, it didn't look cooked on top and then was burned on the bottom, had I known I was going to be asked to be in charge of the rolls I would have brought one of my stones...that is why I say I don't even know how to cook on them bc I have all stones! Even for cookies, which I have never noticed a real need to have the metal pans for...but, I don't bake dozens of cookies for xmas either, so maybe I just don't know about it...

I do understand about giving the masses "choices", but still..I just can't wrap my brain around accepting metal pans when I have been programmed to only use stones and to try to convert those metal pan lovers to stones, which I have done on more than one occasion!

I"m not trying to be negative about it, but I just don't know how easily I will be able to promote them...I guess if someone is totally bent on not using stones and want a metal one that would be fine, but then I'm going to hear "I can buy a perfectly good pan at Wal Mart for $10"..blah blah blah...KWIM?

 

[letscook04]

I haven't cooked on metal pans in over 5 yrs...and probably don't know how to do it right anyway! Is this going to provide even heat distributuion like the stones? Are these going to be a selling point primarily for cookies? Reason I ask is bc at Thanksgiving I went to my parents (who use metal pans) and she asked me to make a simple batch of crescent rolls on her pans, well, I ended up burning the bottoms of the rolls bc, as I always say at my shows, it didn't look cooked on top and then was burned on the bottom, had I known I was going to be asked to be in charge of the rolls I would have brought one of my stones...that is why I say I don't even know how to cook on them bc I have all stones! Even for cookies, which I have never noticed a real need to have the metal pans for...but, I don't bake dozens of cookies for xmas either, so maybe I just don't know about it...

I threw out my metal pans 4 years ago! I love my stones and will contiune to use them.

I do understand about giving the masses "choices", but still..I just can't wrap my brain around accepting metal pans when I have been programmed to only use stones and to try to convert those metal pan lovers to stones, which I have done on more than one occasion!

I feel the same way being programmed to use PC stones at my shows. I will still contiune to do so! I talk about what I LOVE. I am honest with my guest when they ask me a question about a product.
I"m not trying to be negative about it, but I just don't know how easily I will be able to promote them...I guess if someone is totally bent on not using stones and want a metal one that would be fine, but then I'm going to hear "I can buy a perfectly good pan at Wal Mart for $10"..blah blah
blah...KWIM?

I tend not to let those people bother me about "How much cheaper they can get product from XYZ, I always say; "you get what you pay for!!" LOL
I always bring my old Rubbermaid scraper (cracked & discolored) to all my shows and compare it to PC scrapers. People are amazed how much nicer PC is and I sell at least 1 per person at my show.

 

[KellyTheChef]

Myself, I am loving the idea of the new sheet pans. Everyone.. put away your knives, but I will say it.... I don't bake cookies, etc on stoneware! I don't tell my customers that, and do have a ton of stoneware that I use on a regular basis at home ( LOVE the rectangular baker!!!! LOVE the bar pan for bacon!!! LOVE the pizza/round stone for pizza!!) but I want a good, heavy metal pan for somethings. My Director told me these are awesome: weight-wise, etc. I can't wait. My husband, who is the cookie baker at our house, would never use a bar pan for cookies, but I can't wait to tell him he is getting new sheet pans. I can already predict that I will be hard pressed to keep one in my kit!!!

This is the reason I signed up with PC. They adapt and have truly something for everyone. I am now a happy camper; first the SS cookware, and now the pans. I am seriously questioning the re-design of the grapefruit knife (I adore the old one and have 2!) but besides that, bring back the cherry pitter and I am good!!

I was just going to mention the SAME THING!

The pans I use look like the PC ones...heavy duty, bake my cookies evenly, and they wash up beautifully! Whenever they start looking a little dull, I just use an SOS pad on them and they are all nice and shiney again! I got mine at a restaurant supply company and paid about $12-15 for each of them (I own 4) about TEN YEARS AGO. Now, I haven't seen the ones we are going to sell, but I can almost bet that they will be just as nice...if not nicer than mine. I can GUARANTEE that the pans they will buy at Walmart will either be in the trash or a PITA and warped in less than a year...ours will be beautiful and they will probably have them forever!

I use my stones for 95% of the things I make in the oven...but I am glad to be able to sell pans to people for the other 5% that we can't do on a stone...or to those who are still too chicken to try our stones!

 

[missyciccolella]

I think I was one of the few people excited about the sheet pans...I love using my broiler to finish off roasted veggies, and yes I am willing to roast my peppers as well. I was disappointed in the size - I hoped for something bigger as I feed a family of 5 everyday. Anyway, I suggest talking to the test kitchens and/or reading the PIG on these items. When I chatted with HO reps about them I was shocked at the level of baking these would achieve...I referenced the "black bottom biscuits" we all so fondly mention when talking about stoneware and she gave me details about the construction of these pans and how wonderful they will be. I can't wait to try them out!

I am however disappointed in the fact they are pictured in the catalog with biscuits and cookies instead of veggies and more broiler friendly items until we can get a handle on the difference and benefits to using the sheet pan vs stoneware. Educate yourself and try it out before making up your mind...HO wouldn't introduce them if they didn't think they would help us!

 

[pampchefrhondab]

I sometimes use metal pans. I received two large restaurant quality cookie sheets for my wedding shower over 20 years ago and I still have them (they don't look as nice as they did then!). I don't use them for cookies anymore, but I do use them for large/dense frozen food - mostly lasagna (gotta love Stoffer's) and sometimes pies. I also use them if I need to broil something. This isn't very often, but they are still a VERY NEEDED tool in the kitchen! Lucky for us -hopefully we will sell them like crazy! I plan to tell this to my customers.

 

[JackieBozeman]

they will be really nice for those who still use silicone to bake items. It will surely keep them sturdy. I also am looking forward to using them on cookies as I've found I have to add 10 minutes to my recipes when using my stoneware to make sure everything is done.

 

[urbnk8]

They are broiler safe, stoneware is not. That's a good thing to know about these pans and why others need them in addition to Stoneware.

This will definitely be my selling point...the broiler. That way you can still promote the benefits of stoneware, but with another option for the broiler. I wasn't crazy about the idea at first but am starting to like it. I use my stoneware for everything now but I still don't like to do cookies on my stones. For some reason, they just don't turn out right on the stones. Unless I put the whole thing of dough in the bar pan and make my "lazy cookies". These turn out great. But when I do individual cookies, not so much. So I am excited for the sheet pans for cookies.

I also LOVE the cookware protectors! Can't wait to get these!!

 

[baychef]

Here is a quote from a director that was at leadership...I love this!

'I spoke to Chef Chris in the airport. He said the sheet pans are "killer". He said he has lots of metal pans, but that when he needs one, he always reaches for our sheet pans.

If he thinks they are "killer", then they are for me.
And I still have guests who don't like the feel of stoneware so now I have something to offer them."

 

[Chefgirl2]

OKAY...I know you won't believe this...but...I actually was in a heated discussion about these pans Friday night at my NSE table.

I LOVE THEM!!! We are not betraying anyone by selling them.

Until now the technology was not available for us to sell a metal pan that was up to Pampered Chef's standards.

I worked in the food industry for 12 years and all metal pans warped. These pans are heavy, have even cooking due to the aluminum-carbon-steel technology and the added wire rim. FACE IT. Some people will never cook with stoneware.

But, even the most advanced cook needs a metal pan that can be a Bain-Marie(water bath) for custards and cheesecakes. The average mom needs one for frozen pies and to broil. The germ freak wants it so they can put soap on it.

This sheet pan will require flipping your food half way through. It does have even cooking, but it will never replace stoneware.

At my request, after dinner Beth Jacobs had us brainstorm the positives of this sheet pan. There are so many. Everyone will need at least the large one in their kitchens.

By the end of the night everyone was singing it's praises!

 

[PCGINA]

I chatted with one of the test kitchen people, the cute little gal with the blond flip that does our food demo videos, and she said that 62% of the market STILL wants metal pans. Ther are those of us who have been converted and there are those that can be converted.... but let's face it ~ there is a large portion of customers who will NEVER convert.

I say sell the heck out of them - it is their choice....