soWhat Is the Call on the 2Nd Going to Be About?

[Jolie_Paradoxe]

Wahooo! Totally excited with the change.....I see lots of D's on our team come March! Not to mention more control for those who have the bare minimum.

 

[Sheila]

If they don't promote before, I'll have 2 who are "paid as" in March and promote in April!

 

[Sheila]

I just realized that my 3rd D-wanna-be is 1 person away from taking this promotion too! I bet when she hears about this on Monday she'll kick her recruiting in high gear and get the structure to promote April 1 or quiclky thereafter!

Guess I need to start working on my first 2nd line D so I can promote to SD!!!

 

[ChefBeckyD]

I just realized that my 3rd D-wanna-be is 1 person away from taking this promotion too! I bet when she hears about this on Monday she'll kick her recruiting in high gear and get the structure to promote April 1 or quiclky thereafter!Guess I need to start working on my first 2nd line D so I can promote to SD!!!

My director is just a few recruits away from being a SD with the new structure. I'm so excited for her!She has me Then another consultant who has 6 in her line...and one TL, who has 4 in her line (so she needs two)Then another consultant who has 4 in her line, and one SC. (so she needs one.)

 

[Sheila]

Annastasia has 8, one has 2 new recruits. So she has the personal sales and the team sales, but was just waiting on the 2nd SC. She's good to go for sure in March, but really wants this so I could definitely see her promoting before then. (She would have made it already if the new plan was in effect.)

Karen has 7 in her 1st line, 6 that she can count on. Two of them have a recruit. She has the personal sales, the team sales and the current structure requirement. She missed promoting this month because a SC is on vacation in the states and didn't submit. I expect to see her promote prior to the new plan. (She would have also already made it if the new plan was in effect.)

Katie has 3 personal recruits and 1 of them has 2 new consultants in her downline, so she's super close to getting the structure for the new plan.

I have 2 more in my group of 12 personal recruits who want to build a team. One already has 2 recruits.

I sent out an e-mail last week showing my pay for the last 6 months. What I sold, what I would have made as a consultant, how much I receiced in HO leads, what I received in team overrides and what I did make. I'm hoping that seeing the difference will encourage more of them to have the desire to recruit and promote! It definitely made an impact earlier this year when I did it! LOL

 

[baychef]

Sorry...long

Well... she'll get hers. That's not a way to run a business!!!!!

I did this in October.:blushing: Even though I submitted $300 in orders so 2 of my 3 potential SC would be SC...I still netted more commission than if I had let it go and was paid as a TL. I may have to do this again at least once before March as to not lose my title of at least D.

My 2nd gen D has ALWAYS met her requirements each month. All but one of my months I met AD requirements EXCEPT my 1st gen D. She has only met them 3 times since June! And it drops my income significantly even though I have met all of my requirements of an AD.

So...here is how Dec, Jan and Feb could be. If I meet all my requirements of AD but my 1st gen does not, I would be paid as a TL each month. By February I would drop from and AD to a TL....unless I buy a couple parties like I did in October. ( she has struggled with personal organization, organization and 4 active lines at various times).

I have active people under these SC's but the SC has decided not to be active. One could even be a TL!!! And she rocks. I thought that she would be my next director because she easily could be...but her husband does not want her to do PC anymore. They do run a farm together, have 4 kids under the age of grade 2...and number 5 is on the way!! He doesn't want her to be gone too much. She is active with her church and that is all she has time for.

So...you are correct, Colleen. It is no way to run a business...but for that month, I needed the extra money. I would have been out much more than $300. The only other way I would do it is to retain my title of at least D. I would not do it consistently for that amount of time, however.

In a way, I am glad she did admit it because I bet there were many more than just her and I doing it!! The new plan will still allow an AD to at least be paid as a D without having to buy 2 parties to keep that damn SC requirement.

Have not had success in helping my 1st gen. She just seems to think that she can do it alone and she will eventually. She forgets that sometimes just hearing something from someone else can help turn a light bulb on in someone's head.

 

[Jolie_Paradoxe]

Isn't it exciting? I have 2 directs and 2 indirects who are near D structure and 1 or 2 may promote before the new career plan, but by March - all 4 will be there. SD, here I come!

 

[Sheila]

WooHoo Laurie! I don't think I'll promote to SD that fast, but I do anticipate getting it fairly quickly. Much more quickly than I think I'd have gotten it with the current plan in place.

 

[pckelly]

Beautifully stated!

(and now, won't this make Allison a director? I'm so excited for her - it's hard to keep quiet!)

Yep...and she knows about it. She was able to attend our upline Director's meeting with me yesterday and we discussed it. I am so excited for her!!

 

[baychef]

Isn't it exciting? I have 2 directs and 2 indirects who are near D structure and 1 or 2 may promote before the new career plan, but by March - all 4 will be there. SD, here I come!

arty:WOW!! Congratulations...how exciting!!!!arty:

 

[Jolie_Paradoxe]

Thanks Sheila and Ann! At the moment it looks great, but no celebrating til it happens right. Anything can happen from now until March.

Sheila, the new plan will DEFINITELY make it easier for all of us and I am really happy with the change. Going to start working on trying to have the stars aligned by march. You and your team are on fire and I know I'll be celebrating with you shortly after.

Ann - I'm happy that the change is going to get you off that rollercoaster and that you'll actually be paid consistently for YOUR hard work. No more creativity or nail biting for you. Also, it seems like your 2nd gen will become your 1st gen and you'll be able to be paid as AD regularly!

 

[finley1991]

I understand what you're saying Ann... I think at one point in time, we've all done something with a show/order to help us along. There's nothing wrong with that... I think that doing it months on end can get risky!

 

[dannyzmom]

Annastasia has 8, one has 2 new recruits. So she has the personal sales and the team sales, but was just waiting on the 2nd SC. She's good to go for sure in March, but really wants this so I could definitely see her promoting before then. (She would have made it already if the new plan was in effect.)

Karen has 7 in her 1st line, 6 that she can count on. Two of them have a recruit. She has the personal sales, the team sales and the current structure requirement. She missed promoting this month because a SC is on vacation in the states and didn't submit. I expect to see her promote prior to the new plan. (She would have also already made it if the new plan was in effect.)

Katie has 3 personal recruits and 1 of them has 2 new consultants in her downline, so she's super close to getting the structure for the new plan.

I have 2 more in my group of 12 personal recruits who want to build a team. One already has 2 recruits.

I sent out an e-mail last week showing my pay for the last 6 months. What I sold, what I would have made as a consultant, how much I receiced in HO leads, what I received in team overrides and what I did make. I'm hoping that seeing the difference will encourage more of them to have the desire to recruit and promote! It definitely made an impact earlier this year when I did it! LOL

Would you mind sharing that email (minus your $$ numbers of course) so I can follow your format and share my #s with my team?

 

[Sheila]

I sent it in iContact. I just forwarded that e-mail to you.

 

[dannyzmom]

I sent it in iContact. I just forwarded that e-mail to you.

Got it - thank you SO much for sharing!

 

[Sheila]

Anytime!

 

[baychef]

I understand what you're saying Ann... I think at one point in time, we've all done something with a show/order to help us along. There's nothing wrong with that... I think that doing it months on end can get risky!

I always make sure that I am on the plus side of the money or going to lose my title and don't want to drop from AD to TL. It gets too expensive!!

 

[finley1991]

I always make sure that I am on the plus side of the money or going to lose my title and don't want to drop from AD to TL. It gets too expensive!!

That's why I worry about my one TL... about 1/3 of her monthly sales are her own purchases to keep her at $1250 to get her HO leads. She's trying to unload the stuff at tables this month... The prob is that Nov was her 3rd month to maintain to get the leads and she didn't hit it. She's got the sales/recruits but no longer has the title of TL to get them. I don't think she knows yet and is expecting to start getting the leads this month...

 

[pamperedbecky]

Yuck. What a bummer of a month to not get those HO leads! I already have about $175 in HO lead orders. There were a few months this year that I fell out of the leads rotation and it sucked! It's just nice to know some orders will come in and boost your sales. But, it kind of defeats the purpose if you have to buy your way there all the time!

 

[baychef]

It makes it NO fun to have to buy your business and your title. I can't wait till the new plan starts!!

 

[BethCooks4U]

I was tempted several times but my team came through every 2-3 months. One month I did give someone on an SC team an order but turned out it wasn't needed. I hated the pay cut on those many TL months but the thing that irked me the most was when two consultants qualified in a month that one of the chosen ones said she was submitting but didn't. Even the bonus is paid according to "performed as" - so not cool. I know it was just $5 each but it really upset me that they even took that. I tried every month to encourage them to submit and still will but I hated that underlying it was for me. Uggg...

is it March yet??

 

[ChefBeckyD]

I was tempted several times but my team came through every 2-3 months. One month I did give someone on an SC team an order but turned out it wasn't needed. I hated the pay cut on those many TL months but the thing that irked me the most was when two consultants qualified in a month that one of the chosen ones said she was submitting but didn't. Even the bonus is paid according to "performed as" - so not cool. I know it was just $5 each but it really upset me that they even took that. I tried every month to encourage them to submit and still will but I hated that underlying it was for me. Uggg...

is it March yet??

arty::sun:arty: March IS COMING!!! arty::sun:arty:

 

[finley1991]

I can't wait till the new plan starts!!

Me too!!!! No more EOM wondering!!!!!!

 

[Sheila]

I want to go to bed. Will they just PLEASE make the announcement already! LOL

 

[Inomiamenda]

I have been thinking long and hard about how to respond to some of this. Before I dropped back to director, I had a couple of months where I submitted 150 for one of my downline director's teams. After the 2nd time it wore on me, it was stressful, and I realized I needed to rebuild the rest of my organization and come to a point where one person qualifying/ not wouldn't make or break me. I think that is what sucked about the plan.... it could come down to a simple submission of 150 that could literally affect the pay of not just my downline, but my upline all the way up. *I* didn't want to be the one to cause my director not to meet her qualifications. And I have high sales each month- 150 was a drop in the bucket so it wasn't a total huge deal. However, I did not want to continue that pattern so once I knew there were others in place I let her fall back on her own. She 12 or 13 total in her downline, so I love that the new plan will allow her to qualify with little effort on her part even.
I see why people have submitted sales for their teams... especially if it was a 150 show meaning the difference of 250 or 300 - and if you were dropping back to TL it's more like 500-700. That's a huge hit when you depend on that $$ each month.
What I don't get is why someone admits to doing it- to Jean Freakin Jonas!!! Duh!

 

[finley1991]

What I don't get is why someone admits to doing it- to Jean Freakin Jonas!!! Duh!

I think people talked about that just as much as they talked about the real reason for the call!!!!!

It's taken me a few days to process the reality of it... after I got over my original excitement. And I'm still excited and I'm excited for my business!

I can't wait to hear what everyone else thinks when it's announced today! I'm sure CS is going to be BUZZING! Since I'm not on there anymore, I'm counting on those of you who are to fill me in on the juiciest comments!!!!

 

[Sheila]

She probably doesn't realize that she shouldn't be doing that. I bet her upline would flip if they had been on the call or heard it in a playback!

Speaking of the call, people were saying thank you for a gift. What gift? I mail is so freaking delayed over here! None of my team has even gotten the little Wahoo Recruiting Club gifts yet much less an end of the year thing.

 

[Sheila]

A consultant has already spilled the beans that her Director called & a big announcement will be made today. Some are getting upset that they are being teased before the announcement.

Luckily no one has posted WHAT it's about yet.

 

[ChefLoriG]

I think they meant gift figuratively...... of how directorship is figured

 

[PamperedK]

Would you mind sharing that email (minus your $$ numbers of course) so I can follow your format and share my #s with my team?

Would you share that with me as well?