soWhat Is the Call on the 2Nd Going to Be About?
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Discussion Overview
The thread centers around participants' speculations and concerns regarding an upcoming conference call scheduled for December 2nd. Many express curiosity about the topics that will be discussed, particularly in relation to changes or updates for the upcoming year.
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Main Points Raised
- One participant mentions receiving an email about the call and wonders what news will be shared regarding 2011.
- Another participant expresses nervousness about the call and shares their scheduling conflict with a recruiting interview.
- Several participants speculate about potential announcements, including changes to the career plan, easing submission requirements, or even a Christmas gift.
- One participant, identifying as a consultant, shares that they heard from an upper-level director about flaws in the new career plan and possible revisions.
- Another participant expresses frustration over the reliance on a single person's submissions affecting their pay, highlighting concerns about fairness in the current structure.
- One participant notes that they did not receive the email about the call and seeks information from others.
- Another participant suggests that the call might be a motivational session rather than a significant announcement regarding the career plan.
- One participant recalls a previous year's announcement of a special promotion in January and speculates that a similar announcement could occur during the call.
- Another participant shares a plea for earlier trip announcements to help consultants start the year on track.
- Several participants express confusion over why not all consultants were invited to the call.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Views differ among participants regarding the nature of the call and what it might entail, with no clear consensus emerging on the expected announcements.
Contextual Notes
Participants share personal experiences and opinions based on their roles within the consultant community, reflecting a range of sentiments about the upcoming call and its implications for their business practices.
Who May Find This Useful
Consultants interested in the upcoming call and those seeking to understand the potential impacts of the discussed topics on their business practices may find this thread relevant.
ChefBeckyD
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chefruthie said:
Don't forget the retro pay for all those months those of us kept the title but were paid as TL. LOL It's all good. Soon we'll be on even ground again!! Did they say anything about the level you need to be as of March 1? Like if we would lose the title under the current plan would we keep the title in March if we qualified on the new way? I don't plan on that happening but just wondering...
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Sheila said:Colleen, that D is making personal orders almost every month for a 2nd line to be active so the D can maintain her title and help her upline maintain their title.Totally defeats the concept of building a strong team and being rewarded if you are buying your success 10 out of 14 months!
My question is then how is she earning any money??????????? I guess she could be selling the product at fairs and such, but what a PAIN! Just play the game honestly!
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I guess it would depend on the overrides. If she's spending $150 to make $300 or more then I guess she can justify it in her mind. I would imagine that she is probably getting the free director boxes each new season too. But I would imagine that would be super frustrating each month. And what if the other team members found out? Wouldn't they be mad that they are working for the activity and this one team mate is doing nothing, but staying active? I wouldn't want to be explaining that one to my downline!
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DebbieJ said:
That's why I didn't understand it! My guess (and it's just a guess) is that she came from another DS company where that is encouraged.
The TL (now SC again) I referred to in my other post does that. About 1/3 of her sales each month is her buying product to get her to $1250. Then she unloads it at the tables. I know we've all added on to orders a time or two but to make that a habit is a horrible and risky way to build a business. Plus, who can sustain that for the long haul? I can't believe that D did it so many months!!!
Sheila said:The one who has "bought" her Director status for 10 of her 14 months?
I can't imagine doing this for 10 months and I would NEVER admit it to Jean if I had, but I have done this once or twice with my team in the last year and a half and I know other directors who have as well and some NED's too! The reason being that I need my income to pay my bills, we live paycheck to paycheck and this helps pay my mortgage and feed my kids. I can't afford to loose $500(yes sometimes it was that much in overrides) because someone on my team has no desire to submit another $20-$50(and yes sometimes it was that little that they needed)because they wouldn't do even that much more to be active:yuck: One month I had 19 active but was paid as TL
So I can understand why people would be doing this as long as they were working their fannies off to get their team where it needed to be. I am so happy about the new career plan changes and it makes me once again excited about my job AND for the first time in months start thinking about promoting to AD, it is hard to think about promoting when you are barely hanging on to your title.
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cincychef said:I AND for the first time in months start thinking about promoting to AD, it is hard to think about promoting when you are barely hanging on to your title.
That is so true for me too! I really thought promoting to AD was possible when they first announced the change. I figured I could promote ONE D! But then I flipped between TL and D several times the first year and quickly gave up the AD dream. As of this year, I've been a D consistently since April. But there were many many many sleepless nights on the last day of the month. I finally lost total interest/hope in promoting and focused on my personal biz and my personal recruiting. I ended up having my best year ever in my PC career!
I'm happy to know that as of March, I won't be losing sleep on the last night of the month. I'm sure a lot of us will be GREEN by mid-month too! And I can really focus on helping my team recruit and focus on my personal recruiting.
There were so many concerns/complaints when they made the original change. So far, I haven't heard any with this new change so hopefully HO has gotten it right!
ray:
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That was the most frustrating thing. I could have $12,000 in team sales and 10 active consultants....but not be paid as a D...but someone else could have 4 lines active, and barely eeking out the $4000 minimum, and be paid as one. Hmmmm....whose working harder and producing more for the company??? SO HAPPY they've finally recognized that!cincychef said:...One month I had 19 active but was paid as TL
I am so happy about the new career plan changes and it makes me once again excited about my job AND for the first time in months start thinking about promoting to AD, it is hard to think about promoting when you are barely hanging on to your title.
It's already given me new energy for focusing on my team and personal recruiting! I have people on my team who I know now will feel like they can attain directorship! This is so exciting!Oh - and I won't be losing any sleep over end of month stuff for the next three months either...I'll just be singing March Is Coming....finley1991 said:I'm happy to know that as of March, I won't be losing sleep on the last night of the month. I'm sure a lot of us will be GREEN by mid-month too! And I can really focus on helping my team recruit and focus on my personal recruiting. There were so many concerns/complaints when they made the original change. So far, I haven't heard any with this new change so hopefully HO has gotten it right!
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What bothered me most about the 'old' program was that people were put in the position of having to either sign a recruit lead under someone else to maintian structure or had to put sales under someone to make sure they had structure or both. This really, really sullied the program and put people in a position where they had to compromise their personal integrity for the sake of maintaining a structure that was for the most part, out of their control.
I don't like being put in that position myself and I certainly didn't like having to make those end of the month calls to my 2nd and 3rd Gen directors to make sure they were going to make structure so that everyone above them got paid. Ugly, ugly, ugly feeling in my heart whenever I had to do that.
I don't like being put in that position myself and I certainly didn't like having to make those end of the month calls to my 2nd and 3rd Gen directors to make sure they were going to make structure so that everyone above them got paid. Ugly, ugly, ugly feeling in my heart whenever I had to do that.
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And for the record, this will be the easiest it's ever been to promote to Director. No 5 qualified, active consutlants lining up all at the same time. No 4 + 2 structure with sales being floated every whichway to make it happen. This new plan allows people to do the right thing and be in control of their promotion and their maintanence from day one.
Don't forget the retro pay for all those months those of us kept the title but were paid as TL. LOL It's all good. Soon we'll be on even ground again!! Did they say anything about the level you need to be as of March 1? Like if we would lose the title under the current plan would we keep the title in March if we qualified on the new way? I don't plan on that happening but just wondering...
Yeah, I hope that is addressed, i may be in that boat--missed directorship in November because the SC nonsense--she submitted, her recruit didn't. I'll be amazed if they both submit in December, so January will be drop dead month for me...if I can get them to submit in Dec. or January, I am home free till March 1. Prayers accepted! I can't listen in on the call, but will definitely listen to the recording.
Yeah, I hope that is addressed, i may be in that boat--missed directorship in November because the SC nonsense--she submitted, her recruit didn't. I'll be amazed if they both submit in December, so January will be drop dead month for me...if I can get them to submit in Dec. or January, I am home free till March 1. Prayers accepted! I can't listen in on the call, but will definitely listen to the recording.
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