Ot: Evil, Lying Former Employers...

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around a participant's experience of losing their job and the subsequent challenges they face with unemployment claims. Participants express empathy and share personal experiences related to job loss and navigating unemployment systems.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based

Main Points Raised

  • One participant shares their frustration about being fired after taking leave to help family, and their former employer's claim that they never worked there.
  • Another participant expresses sympathy and offers emotional support, emphasizing the importance of staying strong during difficult times.
  • Several users mention the unfairness of employers denying unemployment claims and share personal anecdotes about similar situations.
  • One participant identifies as having gone through a similar process and encourages the original poster to persist with their unemployment claim, sharing a positive outcome from their own experience.
  • Another participant highlights the importance of having proof of employment, such as pay stubs, to support claims against the employer's statements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the best approach to take regarding unemployment claims, with some participants sharing personal success stories while others focus on emotional support. No clear consensus emerges on a specific course of action.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects the emotional and financial stress associated with job loss and navigating unemployment benefits, particularly in the context of supporting family members.

Who May Find This Useful

Participants in similar situations of job loss or those navigating unemployment claims may find the shared experiences and emotional support relevant.

Hang in there... unemployment will eventually get you caught up. Of course you worked there.. dumb move on the your past employer to use that excuse.

As for how the bills will get paid on the 15th, take it from someone who has been in that leaky boat... breathe. The gas/electric/water/phone will not turn you of on the 16th. Same goes for the mortage. Take care of your groceries and health insurance (if that is the case) and get on the phone and book some shows.

Hang in there.
 
Oh Kacey, big HUGS!!! This is just not your year so far. Things will get better.

I can't believe they're denying that you worked there - I don't get it when of course you can prove it! There's got to be some fine for lying, I'd think, plus of course you'll get back pay (I know that doesn't help right now, but follow Carol's advice above).

Hang in there - it WILL get better and you will get through this. We are all pulling and praying for you, girlfriend.

Wish I lived closer - a nice huge hot fudge sundae is in order!
 
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chefmeg said:
Hiya Kacey...just when you thought it couldn't get worse, huh?! God certainly has a test going for you and you know how He works, right? He never tells us his plans, so take a deep breath and go to your happy place! Know that I am pullin' for ya, girl!
I've missed you chef meg...where have you been?
 
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pamperedlinda said:
Sorry Kacey - I didn't mean that you weren't upset about the firing (no one likes that!), I just thought that the issue at hand was about the unemployment thing.

Oh, nooo- I knew exactly what you meant and was agreeing with you in your assessment of why I was upset. It had more to do about them lying about my employment than it did about being fired.

I'm sorry if I made you feel bad, I probably misworded something- which can happen when you are emotional. But no- I knew exactly what you meant and I was agreeing with you. :) I heart you Miss Linda, I could never be upset by you!
 
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dianevill said:
Oh Kacey, big HUGS!!! This is just not your year so far. Things will get better.

I can't believe they're denying that you worked there - I don't get it when of course you can prove it! There's got to be some fine for lying, I'd think, plus of course you'll get back pay (I know that doesn't help right now, but follow Carol's advice above).

Hang in there - it WILL get better and you will get through this. We are all pulling and praying for you, girlfriend.

Wish I lived closer - a nice huge hot fudge sundae is in order![/QUOTE]

Could you mail one to me? I like cherries on top! :) :blushing:
 
Hi Linda, I understand that the biggest issue is the employer lying, and that would burn me up, too... It's just that it seems to me like the situation might fall under a FMLA type of situation, and in that case (at least AFAIK), they might get into trouble for firing her! Is FMLA different from state to state? Or does it not apply to siblings? I just hope you get some kind of something from them, Kasey, because you have enough to deal with right now, and they certainly seem to be acting... well, not right.
 
jbachen said:
Hi Linda, I understand that the biggest issue is the employer lying, and that would burn me up, too... It's just that it seems to me like the situation might fall under a FMLA type of situation, and in that case (at least AFAIK), they might get into trouble for firing her! Is FMLA different from state to state? Or does it not apply to siblings? I just hope you get some kind of something from them, Kasey, because you have enough to deal with right now, and they certainly seem to be acting... well, not right.

In our state you HAVE to get those FMLA papers filled out, otherwise, the employer can do what they want practically. You can't retroactively go back and call it FMLA - hard to prove. It SHOULD have fallen under FMLA for her but the employer didn't have her fill out paperwork or report it.

Of course, I am NOT a lawyer and I DO NOT live in MN so legal aide hopefully can help her out.
 
I also know in Florida to qualify for FMLA that you have to have worked there for so many hours and your place of employment has to have so many employees or they are exempt from having to honor the FMLA laws.
It can be a pain in the butt, we had to do it this year for my hubby because he was hospitalized for 6 weeks.
 
Kacey, I'm so sorry this is happening to you, but I promise it will lead to bigger and better things. God has a plan for you.

His Eye Is On the Sparrow

Why should I feel discouraged, why should the shadows come,
Why should my heart be lonely and long for Hev’n and home,
When Jesus is my portion? My constant friend is He;
His eye is on the sparrow, and I know he watches me;
His eye is on the sparrow, and I know he watches me.

“Let not your heart be troubled,” His tender word I hear,
And resting on His goodness I lose my doubt and fears;
Tho’ by the path He leadeth but one step I may see;
His eye is on the sparrow, and I know he watches me;
His eye is on the sparrow, and I know he watches me.

Whenever I am tempted, whenever clouds arise,
When songs give place to sighing, when hope within me dies,
I draw the closer to Him, from care He sets me free;
His eye is on the sparrow, and I know he watches me;
His eye is on the sparrow; and I know he watches me.

I sing because I’m happy,
I sing because I’m free,
For His eye is on the sparrow,
And I know He watches me.


I have been through a difficult time as well losing my job 6 1/2 years ago after 15 years of dedicated service. It has given me a new found freedom though. Work does not consume me anymore. I am first dedicated to my family and home and work comes last. My husband doesn't understand it because he has never been there. I still do a great job, but just don't give it all my energy... it's hard to describe. I work for a GREAT group of people though. It's a small company of only 6 people and I am much more appreciated then I was at my large employer. It has given me much more peace in my life. Even though I don't make as much money my quality of life is so much better, which is priceless.

Take Care and I'll be praying for you.
 
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Small retraction/correctionI get teary eyed just reading all the encouraging things you are sending me. Thank-you guys!!!

Okay, here is my retraction. After searching for a full day for a phone number that leads to a HUMAN- I got in touch with one this morning at the unemployment office... By the way, I was wrong...:yuck: (technically I was misinformed) :)

Oh- first let me say that FMLA only kicks in if you have been employed for one year. Those are the federal guidelines.

Okay, so I spoke with a very kind, patient gentleman named German. (Hair-Mona) He said that they had the WRONG employer in the system, which is why they told MN Unemp that I never worked there. So- my former employer is off the hook for being evil and lying- for now. New papers are being sent to my former employer today- however they have not updated their new address on their tax form, so it will be sent to an address that hasn't been occupied for over a year.

That helps me, because they will base their decision on what I send them- which is a WHOLE STACK of emails from my two bosses telling me to take the time off, that they'll see me in 2 weeks, then down to we need to know your availability, to we don't have any hours for you, sorry- we know this isn't what you wanted...
And it won't help my former employer because they didn't update their address, so those papers will be sent back to the unemployment office unopened.

Now- they will realize that they've been paying higher taxes, and will look into it eventually, at which point unemployment will reissue those questionaires, and they may decide to decline my claim and if I've been paid, I would have to pay it back, so German (hair-Mona) told me to make copies of all those emails for my files, and copy everything I document, etc- so if that happens, I still have the proof on file. He was so helpful.

So- as it stands my former employer didn't lie because they haven't gotten the questionaire yet, AND I am sort of back to square one, but at least the light at the end of my tunnel is bright and warm. :)

I thought you guys would want to know- this is one situation where I'm glad I was misinformed!!!

Thanks again for letting me be sad, upset, hurt and allowing me to vent. I will keep you informed if you wish.

Gotta run, my doggie is outside barking madly for no reason!
 
Glad to hear that not the whole world is evil... ;)Hopefully, it will go through now!!!!
 
Well, I am glad that at least you were not back stabbed... Now I just hope something comes through with your financial situation.Too bad the FMLA doesn't come into play. I was thinking about you this morning, thinking how cool it would be if you got a big fat settlement to keep you comfortable while you built your PC business up to full time. I am a great day dreamer!! :)
 
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jbachen said:
Well, I am glad that at least you were not back stabbed... Now I just hope something comes through with your financial situation.

Too bad the FMLA doesn't come into play. I was thinking about you this morning, thinking how cool it would be if you got a big fat settlement to keep you comfortable while you built your PC business up to full time. I am a great day dreamer!! :)

You and me both! :D
 
Kitchen Diva said:
I've missed you chef meg...where have you been?


thanks!:blushing: my Dad is very ill and we are in the midst of an emotional rollercoaster too, so my time on here is limited....i read more than i respond, but when i saw your post, i had to chime in!
there is a quote from Mother Teresa that I LOVE:
"I know the Lord never gives us more than we can handle. I just wish He didn't trust me so much"
I think we are int he same boat with Him trusting us right now, so keep your chin up and know that you can only "do" so much before you have to let things be done for you...by the great man upstairs, of course!
 

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