I Learned What Not to Say to a Potential Recruit!

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around personal experiences and opinions regarding interactions with representatives from Passion Party (PP) during a Bridal Expo. Participants share their thoughts on the sales tactics used by PP consultants and express their feelings about selling or promoting such products.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, recounts a conversation with a PP representative that felt pushy and dismissive of their Pampered Chef business.
  • Another participant shares their discomfort with the idea of selling PP products, noting they would feel embarrassed to admit to selling such items.
  • Several users mention similar experiences with other direct selling companies, expressing skepticism about the profitability and sales tactics of those businesses.
  • One participant reflects on the challenges of selling PP products, particularly in relation to personal comfort and the nature of the items being sold.
  • Another participant highlights the difference in market appeal between Pampered Chef and PP, emphasizing that food-related products have a broader audience.
  • Some participants express disbelief regarding the sales figures claimed by PP representatives, questioning their validity.
  • One participant discusses the logistical challenges and personal discomfort associated with demonstrating PP products at parties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ among participants regarding the effectiveness and appeal of PP products compared to Pampered Chef. While some express skepticism about PP's sales tactics and market viability, others share personal discomfort with the nature of the products sold.

Contextual Notes

Participants' experiences are rooted in personal interactions at a Bridal Expo, reflecting their feelings about direct selling and the types of products they are comfortable promoting.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to Pampered Chef consultants and others in the direct selling community who are navigating similar experiences with competing brands.

AJPratt
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WOW! I attended a Bridal Expo on Sunday. I made my way around the room to meet the other vendors. I stopped by the Passion Party table. She seemed friendly enough. And then, it happened...
Her: "So, what do you really make?"
Me: About a $100-$150 a show
Her: "And what's your average show?
Me: About $700.
Her: LAUGHS and then blurts "I make THREE times what you do."
Me: "Wow, that's great." (who cares)
Her: "I know you would be great at this." (uh-huh)
Me: "Well, thank you but I'm happy with PC."
Her: "But PC doesn't pay as well, and they are soo expensive, and its not a wide market... plus with PP you don't have to carry all that stuff around or cook anything." (OK... now she's getting pushy.)
Me: "Do you have to carry an inventory?"
Her "No, but you can and I find that most guests want to buy on the spot."
Me: "So, to be really successful with PP, I'd have to carry inventory."
Her: "That's up to you. So what do you think... do you want to make more money or not."
Me: "I think I can stand up in church and talk about my PC business. I couldn't do that with yours. And, all I carry is one crate, no heavier than a bag of groceries. But thanks anyway."

WOW. I got a good look at what NOT to do.
 
I'm with you Anne. I don't know how many ppl I could tell if I sold PP!
 
I have had the same experince with longaberger and signature home styles consultants..... and all I wanted was a party exchange...
 
AJPratt said:
WOW! I attended a Bridal Expo on Sunday. I made my way around the room to meet the other vendors. I stopped by the Passion Party table. She seemed friendly enough. And then, it happened...
Her: "So, what do you really make?"
Me: About a $100-$150 a show
Her: "And what's your average show?
Me: About $700.
Her: LAUGHS and then blurts "I make THREE times what you do."
Me: "Wow, that's great." (who cares)
Her: "I know you would be great at this." (uh-huh)
Me: "Well, thank you but I'm happy with PC."
Her: "But PC doesn't pay as well, and they are soo expensive, and its not a wide market... plus with PP you don't have to carry all that stuff around or cook anything." (OK... now she's getting pushy.)
Me: "Do you have to carry an inventory?"
Her "No, but you can and I find that most guests want to buy on the spot."
Me: "So, to be really successful with PP, I'd have to carry inventory."
Her: "That's up to you. So what do you think... do you want to make more money or not."
Me: "I think I can stand up in church and talk about my PC business. I couldn't do that with yours. And, all I carry is one crate, no heavier than a bag of groceries. But thanks anyway."

WOW. I got a good look at what NOT to do.


Anne,
She is one of the few out there whom actually makes money at this then, because I have several friends and acquaintances whom sell or have tried to sell this line. All of them made horrible or no money, had trouble getting shows, etc. Most have a second company they sell for or have just quit all together.
 
So you mean you're not signing up Anne? LOL, just kidding:) Talk about pushy; & I can't imagine them having 3 times the sales as us! Maybe she makes more per show, but if you're figuring inventory & such that takes the higher amount away. And like you said...I think I'd be too embarassed to admit I sold that stuff:o
 
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I was just imagining if I was walking along and dropped my crate of PP stuff. She said her shows are about $1800, which I just don't believe.
 
That's funny because....I think I have only been invited to one of those kinds of parties two times in my whole life (and DID NOT go), but have been invited to PC parties about a million times.
 
OH - Come on Anne - you could whip up a Chicken braid in a little nighty - couldn't you??? :-)~~
 
AJPratt said:
I was just imagining if I was walking along and dropped my crate of PP stuff. She said her shows are about $1800, which I just don't believe.

She must know some randy ppl, LOL!
 
I had a similar conversatiom with a MK rep...except the inventory part (snicker snicker...that's where I got her to back off - LOL).
So...what did she say to your church comment?? LOLOLOL
 
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PCGINA said:
OH - Come on Anne - you could whip up a Chicken braid in a little nighty - couldn't you??? :-)~~
Not without burning the girls.
 
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dannyzmom said:
I had a similar conversatiom with a MK rep...except the inventory part (snicker snicker...that's where I got her to back off - LOL).
So...what did she say to your church comment?? LOLOLOL
She just smiled.
 
ROFL that is too funny Anne!!!
 
Well, she might make more money....gross but not profit. I have compared our commission and host benefits to several other direct selling companies. Yes, they make more up front commission, but they buy all of their host incentives, they never get free supplies unless it is a sales incentive, some have to pay a service charge for sending an order...and the list goes on. In the end, they might make 20% commission. It looks really good until you take all of that into consideration.
 
I remembered this summer I did a show for a passion party gal; didn't know she did that until the show was booked & was thankful she didn't ask me to host for her:o Anyway, she was telling me that for her to accept credit cards she would have to buy her own machine & all the fees that go along with it; and there was something else crazy but I can't think of it now!
 
She thinks that PP has a wider market them PC? I know a lot more people that eat than use sex toys!! Plus ALL our starter shows are with friends and family, and I REFUSE to sell lingerie and naughty things to my mom and MIL!! Yuck!
 
Yeah it's bad enough my MIL isn't into PC, I couldn't IMAGINE trying to sell her PP!

I think she had a bad experience with something breaking and did not send it back. I told DH we should get her something for Christmas ;)
 
LisaGo for the new Covered Baker. That would be very difficult to break but extremely handsome with a wonderful cassarole in it!
As for the PP thing. Just that scares me! (PP - PeePee! Funny the nicknames are the same!) I actually met someone too who does that. I made the mistake of asking that one questions. Guys? Well, she just about shoved one of the darn "things" in my face and said that was a wonderful idea. I have to admit, I hang with a few kinky people who would love that stuff but geez! But I mean a few. So where else do you go? Could you imagine a pic of a big ole, well, you know, on the grocery store bulletin board or even on the BB at work! Plus a fact I don't think I could keep a straight, pun intended, face through a demo! And how do you demo? Could you even talk about what to do with those things? Oh my, I am embarassing myself just thinking about it! YYYEEEWWWW!

Way to Go Anne!
 
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For your demo, you pass 'em around. Really. I've heard that.
 
Thanks John...might not do that piece but maybe another piece of stoneware...good thinking! Especially since I'm the host of a fundraiser this month (I'm on the committee and they wanted me to chair!) so I can order a host special...hmm....

Oh and Anne, you are right. I haven't been to a PP party but one for another company a few years back. Of course they have more than just the THINGS. Massage lotions and other things are more tame. But I still couldn't sell it!
 
I use everything that I bring to my shows, so I couldn't do PP. I wouldn't want to pass any of those "things" around, much less if I had to use them and show my personal collection. Eww!
 
Omg!Have any of you seen what they offer? I just went to their website and couldn't believe my eyes! Some of that stuff actually states that it is gynecologist recommended for bladder control! :eek:

I don't think I could ever sell PP to my relatives or friends or neighbors or anyone that I might ever meet walking down the street ever again. I'm proud, though, to tell everyone and anyone that I sell PC. :D
 
I can believe that she has shows that avg $1800, because I've been to a few shows and couldn't believe how expensive that sort of stuff is. The first show I attended the lady had actually quit her fulltime job as a Labor & Delivery Nurse. My friend told me that I should book a show, that she'd got tons of free stuff because her show was over $2000!

My MIL babysits for me on the weekend so I can do shows. I know for a fact that she wouldn't be willing to help out if she knew that I sold PP!
 
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I just went on their site. http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-003.gif I could never imagine talking about that stuff. It is expensive, but then again, I don't know the going rate for some of that stuff anyway.
 
Reading this thread has got me laughing so hard that my mascara is all smeared....now I have to reapply my make-up! You all crack me up!

I met a gal that sold PP a while ago and she carried her inventory around with her all the time in her trunk....can you just imagine what the scene would be like if she had an accident?!:eek:
 
Lol
pamperedlinda said:
can you just imagine what the scene would be like if she had an accident?!:eek:

Or a flat tire, having to explain it to the tow truck driver? Or to the police if they pulled her over because they thought she was acting funny and asked to look in her trunk? :D
 
i had a friend who sold PP stuff. She was somewhat successful, but her mission was somewhat different. She was an MFT (marriage/family therapist) and as such noticed during marriage sessions that sex was a huge topic for her married clients. So she took on PP as part of her interest in helping women feel more comfortable with their bodies and their sexuality. That said, she wasn't pushy at all.
 
Can you imagine returns?? I am not mailing those things!!!
 
Did the PP consultant tell you that the Hosts DO NOT get any free product. A lady that sells it hosted a pc show for me and we got to talking about it. If you buy the $100 kit, i think you make 10% commission, to make the 40% comissions, you have to buy a $400 kit-YIKES!!!! When I asked what the host received for doing the party, she looked at me and said, nothing! i said why would people want to do a party for you then? They have to buy food for guests, have there house spotless, etc. and you don't give them anything, and she looked at me like I was crazy and said why would I want to spend my money I make from selling pp to buy the host something? I just laughed and went on with my business. Her highest show is only about $400 BUT her recruiter had 5 people at a show the night before that the girl attended and and show was $900.

I think she makes 10% of what her downline sells since she bought the $400 kit.


As for what lacey said about the credit card machine, she didn't tell me that BUT I bought some lotions from her and paid half with cash and half with cc and my credit card never got charged.....i almost called her but she was such a jerk in the first place I figured I would let it go.
 
OMG...... I haven't laughed this hard in a very long time........ I would die of embrassement to host a show like that....
 

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