I Learned What Not to Say to a Potential Recruit!

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around personal experiences and opinions regarding interactions with representatives from Passion Party (PP) during a Bridal Expo. Participants share their thoughts on the sales tactics used by PP consultants and express their feelings about selling or promoting such products.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, recounts a conversation with a PP representative that felt pushy and dismissive of their Pampered Chef business.
  • Another participant shares their discomfort with the idea of selling PP products, noting they would feel embarrassed to admit to selling such items.
  • Several users mention similar experiences with other direct selling companies, expressing skepticism about the profitability and sales tactics of those businesses.
  • One participant reflects on the challenges of selling PP products, particularly in relation to personal comfort and the nature of the items being sold.
  • Another participant highlights the difference in market appeal between Pampered Chef and PP, emphasizing that food-related products have a broader audience.
  • Some participants express disbelief regarding the sales figures claimed by PP representatives, questioning their validity.
  • One participant discusses the logistical challenges and personal discomfort associated with demonstrating PP products at parties.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ among participants regarding the effectiveness and appeal of PP products compared to Pampered Chef. While some express skepticism about PP's sales tactics and market viability, others share personal discomfort with the nature of the products sold.

Contextual Notes

Participants' experiences are rooted in personal interactions at a Bridal Expo, reflecting their feelings about direct selling and the types of products they are comfortable promoting.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to Pampered Chef consultants and others in the direct selling community who are navigating similar experiences with competing brands.

Yep, everyone say goodbye to Anne! We won't be seeing her for a while!! :) :)
 
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Hey, we're trying to make a baby overhere!

I just said I couldn't SELL it! Its not really my style, but you never know.
 
Oh, riiiiiiiiight..... never mind people! Anne is a responsible mother-to-be-soon so leave her alone! Keep it down, there's baby making going on there!!
 
That's exactly what I'm talking about! http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/winking0026.gif She's gonna go and get her some naughties to try to get that baby factory on track, lol. Then she's gonna have so much fun gettin that factory up and running she's gonna start in the business, lmbo.
 
I can't believe that the girl from PP would make that much at a show. She must know people who like that kind of stuff. I have had a lot of people tell me that PC is a lot better company than any other. If you had to keep inventory what a headache and you would have to have a lot of space to keep it all. I am so glad that we are all with PC.
Anne, maybe you could do a naughty nightie show for her. (Ha Ha)
 
AJPratt said:
This is funny: I JUST GOT invited to a PP show! Now, I need an adult to go with me, to supervise.

What would you do if you arrived at the show to find it was the same consultant you started this thread about??? Wouldn't that be interesting!?!?!?!
 
You could say something like "you know how much I make, so I really can't spend that much" teehee...
 
Harrle said:
What would you do if you arrived at the show to find it was the same consultant you started this thread about??? Wouldn't that be interesting!?!?!?!
OMG I would laugh my butt off!!
 
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Harrle said:
What would you do if you arrived at the show to find it was the same consultant you started this thread about??? Wouldn't that be interesting!?!?!?!
That had crossed my mind.
 
You would probably bloat her head larger than it already is if you showed up to one of her parties! Then she REALLY wouldn't get it that you aren't interested in joining her biz!
 
AJPratt said:
Maybe it is, but I don't believe anything this lady told me. I just didn't like the way she badmouthed PC, for no reason.
I understand that. I don't like when people bad mouth PC either, which is one reason why I don't like to bad mouth another company. Just think of it this way, usually, people bad mouth that which they don't know anything about! :D
 
I have a friend that does PP.... do you know they have to pay at LEAST $8 per person shipping and it has to go to consultant not host EVEN if the person pays for direct shipping? It may even run the consultant extra shipping if she didnt charge enough on the show. There are a LOT of things that they dont tell you... I asked. Not because I want to leave PC but I was curious.
 
How did I miss this thread until now??? I just cant imagine getting up in front of a bunch of people & holding up one of those "things" and selling it! Id much rather hold up a stone! I did a fair back in February and the lady across from we was selling PP and I had to stare at dildos and body oil for 6 hours!!! Some mighty embarassed women who took one look and turned their back and headed over to my booth!!!!

I did not know about the shipping charge...thats interesting...and crazy! Just another reason Im glad I sell PC.
 
I went to a "Slumber Party" after I got engaged. My husband's boss's boss's wife was the hostess and called to invite me. I had met her at a Pampered Chef party (she was the consultant) held by another boss's wife. Sure my husband (then fiance) was good friends with her husband, but to me she was just my Pampered Chef lady. Could you imagine calling a customer to invite them to a party with tingle creams, penis eraser pencils, vibrators and O rings? In all fairness to her I did have a great time at the PC party and laughed alot and even volunteered to use the chopper. Anyway, I thought it was an actual slumber party (nieve missionary that I was), because she mentioned it was for girls only. I thought it was weird these grown women getting together to have a sleep over. I had no idea it was sex related--thank God I had left my overnight bag in the car, could you imagine. I still blush at the thought of me thinking it was a girls sleep over. However truth be told, it was one of the funniest nights. The drinkers were toasted on Jello shots and shared hilariously personal stories. Everyone tried convincing me that I really needed items for when the honeymoon ended and that I needed things to take on my honeymoon for that first night. I left that party with funky creams and flavored lotions that I totally never even needed/ opened on my honeymoon. It was such a waste of money! The highlight was two friends arguing over buying the last vibrating p. ring for their husbands. I told my fiancee about the party and he said for weeks later it was hard looking at the o guys in the eyes. They all avoided eye contact and were totally shocked at how little they knew about eachother's sex lives until their women got together. They never even made fun of him about the choices we'd made to wait because they were soo embarrassed at the stories their wives told about only having sex once every two weeks and sometimes only once a month!! Can you believe that? Maybe some people need that kind of thing, but I think if it gets to that point there's underlying issues.
 
AJPratt said:
Me: "I think I can stand up in church and talk about my PC business. I couldn't do that with yours. And, all I carry is one crate, no heavier than a bag of groceries. But thanks anyway."

WOW. I got a good look at what NOT to do.

I LOVE that come back!!! and so true it is!!!
 
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MGG said:
Maybe some people need that kind of thing, but I think if it gets to that point there's underlying issues.

I think that's a great point. Hey, whatever works for you, but right now, I am perfectly happy with the way things are!
 
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Bumping this thread with the below story!


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070531/ap_on_fe_st/odd_catholic_ultimatum;_ylt=AitXZRnTgP5_bxFZz7RnY4XtiBIF

Musician canned for focus on wrong organ
NEW FRANKEN, Wis. - A Catholic priest has removed his church's organist and choir director from her duties saying her sale of sex toys was not "consistent with Church teachings."

Linette Servais, 50, played the organ and sung with the choir for 35 years. Much of her work as choir director and organist was done without pay. When her parish priest asked to meet with her, she thought it was to say thank you.
Instead, she was told to quit her sales job with company known as Pure Romance or she would lose her position in the church.

Pure Romance in Loveland, Ohio, is a $60 million per year business that sells spa products and sex toys at homes parties attended by women. It has 15,000 consultants like Servais.

She said her decision was not hard: She began working with Pure Romance after a brain tumor and treatment left her sexually dysfunctional. The job allows her to help other women who have similar problems.

"After I got over the initial shock, I prayed over this a long time," she said. "I feel that Pure Romance is my ministry."

The Rev. Dean Dombroski felt differently, removing her from the choir loft just before Thanksgiving and gradually taking away other church duties. Servais can no longer take pictures during First Communion services or lead the committee planning St. Joseph's annual late-summer picnic.

Dombroski said he couldn't discuss the situation because it involves personnel. But in a letter to his rural congregation, he wrote: "Linette is a consultant for a firm which sells products of a sexual nature that are not consistent with Church teachings. Because parish leaders are expected to model the teaching of our faith ... she could stay on as the choir director/organist or she could continue to be a consultant but she could not do both."

Servais responded with her own three-page letter to church members, saying she felt compelled to help other women, especially those suffering from problems caused by cancer.

Many choir members quit in support, she said, and some have gathered at her home on occasional Thursdays to sing hymns.

"Father Dean made it sound so sinful," she said. "There is so much more to this business than toys."
 
Hmm. Bet that wouldn't have happened if she'd signed with PC.
 
Catholic church and sex toys... That is one affiliation the church could do without considering the sex scandals already in existance.

I feel really bad for her having to choose - I would never want to have to make that kind of decision, but I agree with the decision of the priest. While HER business is to help women, I doubt very many of the PR consultants could say that.
 
I just did a whopping cooking show of about $170 for a PP lady. She wasn't even there when I came to set up. Her husband and sister in laws ( 2 girls in there young 20s) were there. I had to ask them to get me the ingredients, cook the ground meat, etc. She showed up right at show time with her grandma who she went to get. No one else came. She had one online order from someone in another country who she will see in July, her grandma ordered and her husband placed a order on his own. She had like $600 on her wish list and bought maybe $20. She kept the show open an extra week and I dont think she got another order. Her house was filthy and the people that lived there were all pretty much white trash. I did get 2 bookings though. Go figure!
 
katie0128 said:
While HER business is to help women, I doubt very many of the PR consultants could say that.

OMG(osh) Anne, that's just too funny!

Katie....my thought was "While SHE began her business to help women (with sexual dysfunctions), I doubt very many of her customers were purchasing for that reason!!"
 
AJPratt said:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070531/ap_on_fe_st/odd_catholic_ultimatum;_ylt=AitXZRnTgP5_bxFZz7RnY4XtiBIF
"I feel that Pure Romance is my ministry."

::::Thud::::::
now that's just F'ed up.
 
I have worked in churches in 3 different denominations (Catholic, Methodist and Presbyterian) and none of them would have tollerated my being a PP consultant (not that I would have ever considered it - ME???:eek: ).

If you are a leader or an employee in a church (or the PC lady in town, or president of a club, a mom, or a lot of other things for that matter) you are expected to behave in a "respectable" way and I can see where they would not consider selling sex toys as respectable no matter what your motivations were. Who you are and what you do is a reflection on your employer especially if it's a church whether one likes it or not.
 
Different strokes for different folks.




(I think I was channeling KG on that horrible double-entendre.)
 
chefann said:
Different strokes for different folks.




(I think I was channeling KG on that horrible double-entendre.)

bwaaahhhaahhahahaha - isn't that what they are all about!!!

Ok, it is too early for my mind to be in the gutter.........
 
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chefann said:
Different strokes for different folks.
(I think I was channeling KG on that horrible double-entendre.)

You know he's going to stay away from this thread. LOL

I'm not sure how I feel about it... Just thinking "outloud": I can understand the church's position, but it isn't like she's the minister. People have lives outside of their church, and while PR might not be my thing, as long as she's doing an honest day's work, why should they care?
 
Sex is a part of life. If your parents didn't have sex, you wouldn't be here. It is not like she is choosing to sacrifice animals for the greater glory. She IS trying to help women. And this may be TMI, but, I have gone to one of these shows. I would never have one in my home because my husband would never leave the house and that is a state law. Anyway, onto the TMI. I was raised Catholic and have what I affectionately call a "sex filter" in my brain. I used to have a hard time enjoying sex with my HUSBAND until I felt a bit free-er after going to this party. I see nothing wrong with these products as long as you and your partner agree on how, when and with whom they are to be used. So, for those of us who are a bit inhibited with our bodies and didn't even know WHAT an orgasm was until we got married (and even then, it had to be explained to me - and I took honors Biology!) I applaud those who can do something like this. I would not ever be a consultant for this type of product because I am not comfortable with it. However, I am saddened by all of what I see as judgment in this thread. Sometimes I wonder what our society would be like if we showed more sensualness on the tv instead of violence. I guess that is why I like European tv better. They seem to have more of an open mind when it comes to sex. Not that I'm into taking other partners - I'm not - but SEX HAPPENS - IT HAS TO!!!
 
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cmdtrgd said:
Sometimes I wonder what our society would be like if we showed more sensualness on the tv instead of violence.

WOW! Now that you mention it, I would be curious about that. I'm not catholic, so please don't anyone be offended by my thoughs as I admit I am ignorant to catholic beliefs, but I have always thought that the church was very clear on procreation and it seems to me that it should support a company like this, that it encourages a healthy relationship between husband and wife.
 
I think the biggest argument is that opponents think it is encouraging out-of-wedlock relations. And while some of the acts explained at these shows are out of my personal comfort zone, I'm also married with kids, so the only purpose for anything I may or may not buy at the show is for use WITH my husband. TMI, I'm sorry, but we are all adults.
I have a friend who sells a similar brand, and she cracks me up. She is young and has the notion that after 35 you no longer have a life I think. She was doing a party and mentioned that most of the guests were going to be "old hags, you know 45-50". I quickly let her know that, 1. women hit their prime later in life, and she still has ALOT to learn even if she thinks she is the expert, and 2. That women in that age bracket tend to have more disposable income than younger women, and she would be a fool to dismiss them. That the young 20-somethings may talk a big game, but don't have the $$$ to back it up.
And while she talks of big shows, and how much money she could make, I still don't see if being very profitable at this point. Especially with having to carry a large inventory.
 
AJPratt said:
WOW! Now that you mention it, I would be curious about that. I'm not catholic, so please don't anyone be offended by my thoughs as I admit I am ignorant to catholic beliefs, but I have always thought that the church was very clear on procreation and it seems to me that it should support a company like this, that it encourages a healthy relationship between husband and wife.

Sex (in the Catholic church and what I was raised with) is for procreation ONLY. Birth control was seen as bad, so when you have sex, you better be trying for a kid, and you better NOT enjoy it!
 

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