Getting a Tax ID Number for Church Booth

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Discussion Overview

This thread discusses the requirements and experiences related to obtaining a Tax ID number for setting up a booth at a church, particularly in the context of Pampered Chef consultants. Participants share their personal experiences and insights regarding tax obligations and the necessity of permits.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether they need a Tax ID number for their booth at a church.
  • Another participant, identifying as a consultant, notes that Pampered Chef has a Tax ID, but individual consultants do not, as they operate their own businesses.
  • Several users mention that the necessity of a Tax ID may depend on the specific requirements of the booth application and the purpose of the number.
  • One participant shares their experience of being required to sign a tax form even when no sales were made at a previous booth.
  • Another participant discusses the implications of cash and carry items on tax collection and the requirement to charge extra tax.
  • One participant mentions that they have successfully communicated with the home office (HO) to obtain necessary documentation for their state.
  • Some participants discuss the use of personal tax numbers and the implications of employing children in a home business.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the necessity of a Tax ID number and the requirements for operating a booth, with no clear consensus emerging on the best approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants share varied experiences based on their local regulations and personal practices, reflecting the diverse nature of operating a direct selling business.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants considering setting up booths at events may find the shared experiences and insights relevant to their own situations.

wadesgirl
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I know that this has been posted before but I cannot find it! I have a booth at a church that wants a Tax ID Number. How do I get this? Do we even have one?

I know that something will probably pop up at the bottom with the "Suggested Threads" after I post this!
 
Pampered Chef itself has one, but you don't because you are your own business. Ask the purpose of having a number.HO can provide copies of seller permits/insurance or you can find their Federal number on your tax statement from PC...but I'd still ask why?
 
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janetupnorth said:
Pampered Chef itself has one, but you don't because you are your own business. Ask the purpose of having a number.

HO can provide copies of seller permits/insurance or you can find their Federal number on your tax statement from PC...but I'd still ask why?

There application for the booth states that it's so that every has a permit. Should I just contact HO?
 
We don't collect tax and send a check to the state, HO does.
 
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cmdtrgd said:
We don't collect tax and send a check to the state, HO does.

That's what I thought too...
 
The only way you will need to charge extra tax and write a check for it is if you have cash and carry items. The last booth I worked, even though I didn't sell anything or even take orders, they made me sign a tax form and put $0 for sales.
 
They usually have special forms or a spot for you to note you are part of a direct selling company. Print a copy of the insurance form and give them the address and PH# for Ho and that should be sufficient along with your Consultant #.
 
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Chef Bobby said:
The only way you will need to charge extra tax and write a check for it is if you have cash and carry items. The last booth I worked, even though I didn't sell anything or even take orders, they made me sign a tax form and put $0 for sales.

I don't do cash and carry so I don't have to worry about that.
 
Chef Bobby said:
The only way you will need to charge extra tax and write a check for it is if you have cash and carry items. The last booth I worked, even though I didn't sell anything or even take orders, they made me sign a tax form and put $0 for sales.

Why would you need to do that if you already paid tax on them when ordering?

It states in our policies that while ordering for inventory you pay tax.
 
Your personal tax number can be your SS# but I wouldn't give it to them unless I had to. We don't need a permit...at least in my area...to have a direct sell business.
 
Most cash and carry booths are wholesale items that hasn't had tax paid. Someone that sold Avon at her booth said that she just charged the extra tax that they asked for and wrote a check for it afterwards.
 
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I called HO and had to leave a message with the tax department. Not really for sure, they transfered me twice before sending me there.
 
I have just always written "Company has this on file with the state and pays all monies directly." Never been questioned or had a problem.....knock on wood :)
 
wadesgirl said:
I called HO and had to leave a message with the tax department. Not really for sure, they transfered me twice before sending me there.

Did you ever get an answer?
 
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letscook04 said:
Did you ever get an answer?

Actually yes I did. The financial department finally got back to me and emailed me the certificate that I needed. You just need the one for your state.
 
i was told that to "employ" children in your home and write it off on your taxes you needed an id number, any comments?
 
jamie sullivan said:
i was told that to "employ" children in your home and write it off on your taxes you needed an id number, any comments?

This is not true. Your children are a write off because you may need to pay for childcare for you to work. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard but it's totally not true.
 
jamie sullivan said:
i was told that to "employ" children in your home and write it off on your taxes you needed an id number, any comments?

I disagree. I employ my children and each of them have a Tax ID number, issued by the IRS. This is not their social security number. It is the number I use when I issue their W2's and 1040's. My accountant set it up for each of them.
 
Chef Bobby said:
Most cash and carry booths are wholesale items that hasn't had tax paid. Someone that sold Avon at her booth said that she just charged the extra tax that they asked for and wrote a check for it afterwards.

For us, if you order inventory for C&C the way it states in the PG that you're supposed to do it, you are required to pay sales tax on the retail price of the products.
 

Frequently Asked Questions

What is a Tax ID Number and why does my church need one for a booth?

A Tax ID Number, also known as an Employer Identification Number (EIN), is a unique identifier assigned by the IRS to businesses and organizations for tax purposes. Your church may need one for a booth to ensure compliance with tax regulations, especially if you plan to sell goods or services, as it helps in reporting income and paying any applicable taxes.

How does my church apply for a Tax ID Number?

Your church can apply for a Tax ID Number by completing Form SS-4, which can be done online through the IRS website, by mail, or by fax. The online application is the quickest method, and you will receive your EIN immediately upon completion.

Is there a cost associated with obtaining a Tax ID Number?

No, obtaining a Tax ID Number is free of charge. The IRS does not charge any fees for applying for an EIN, whether you do it online, by mail, or by fax.

What information do I need to provide when applying for a Tax ID Number?

Can I use my personal Tax ID Number for the church booth?

No, you should not use your personal Tax ID Number for church activities. It is important for the church to have its own Tax ID Number to maintain proper financial records and ensure compliance with tax laws. Using a personal number can lead to complications and potential tax issues.

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