Facebooking Cheffers: A Request for Wave 3 Conference Surprises

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Discussion Overview

The thread centers around the sharing of information related to the Pampered Chef conference on Facebook, particularly concerning the timing of such posts and the implications for consultants in different waves. Participants express their thoughts on the excitement of sharing new product details while also considering the desire for surprise among those who have not yet attended the conference.

Discussion Character

  • Opinion-based
  • Anecdotal
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, requests that others refrain from posting conference details on Facebook until all waves have concluded to preserve the element of surprise for others.
  • Another participant acknowledges the excitement of being able to share information right away after attending the conference.
  • Several users mention differing interpretations of the rules regarding discussing Pampered Chef on Facebook, with some choosing to avoid mentioning the company by name.
  • One participant shares their experience of using Facebook settings to limit the audience for their posts while discussing their business activities.
  • Another participant expresses frustration over consultants who openly share their websites on Facebook, viewing it as a violation of company rules.
  • One participant believes that the presence of other consultants online does not significantly impact their own business, emphasizing personal responsibility in managing their own practices.
  • Another participant suggests that clearer and more specific rules from the company would help consultants navigate social media use more effectively.
  • One participant reflects on the challenges posed by search engines in relation to the visibility of consultants' websites and the potential for ethical violations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ among participants regarding the appropriateness of sharing information on Facebook, with some advocating for caution and others expressing a more relaxed approach. No clear consensus emerges on the best practices for discussing Pampered Chef-related content online.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and interpretations of the rules surrounding social media use as Pampered Chef consultants, highlighting the varying levels of adherence and understanding within the community.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants navigating social media practices and those interested in the implications of sharing business-related information online may find the discussion relevant.

I pretty much dropped it also.
 
My only connection to PC on Facebook is when I play "Farm Town". The name of my farm is Pampered Chef Farm. Hopefully someone will bring up questions about it.
Anybody want to be my neighbor?
 
pcchefjane said:
If you have your settings set to "Friend Only", you can post information on FB.

Not true. I am set to friends only and still got a violation notice. So I guess one of my "friends" turned me in. *shrug*
 
As my extra job I listed I had a home based business that has fantastic products that I use in the kitchen everyday!
 
1. In response to if we could list Pampered Chef as our employer, Ann is correct. However, Pampered Chef is not our employer, we are independent consultants.2. Some upper level directors are allowed to advertise in ways we aren't - check the policies online.3. If you are upset, forward it to HO and let it go. Take that time and energy to focus on YOUR business!4. HO is currently looking at the policies and will (hopefully) soon be updating them.
 
I have a friend that sells Chez Ami children's clothing that is an independent sales company. Chez Ami actually encourages their consultants to get their name and business out there as much as possible. The owner's husband, Joel Aiken, actually set up a Chez Ami (Patsy Aiken Designs) fan and consultant page on Facebook. They realize that this is a way to promote a business and I must say that PC needs to look into that. I think it is a good thing rather than a bad thing even though nothing about Pampered Chef is on my FB page.
 
llmahaffey said:
I have a friend that sells Chez Ami children's clothing that is an independent sales company. Chez Ami actually encourages their consultants to get their name and business out there as much as possible. The owner's husband, Joel Aiken, actually set up a Chez Ami (Patsy Aiken Designs) fan and consultant page on Facebook. They realize that this is a way to promote a business and I must say that PC needs to look into that. I think it is a good thing rather than a bad thing even though nothing about Pampered Chef is on my FB page.

I think it is all about equality. Not everyone has internet access. It is not really a web based company, so it does not encourage it that way. Might be nice for PC to update their policy in some way. I am sure they have looked into it.
 
DebbieJ said:
Not true. I am set to friends only and still got a violation notice. So I guess one of my "friends" turned me in. *shrug*

Seriuosly? Wow.... that really stinks!
 
DebbieJ said:
Not true. I am set to friends only and still got a violation notice. So I guess one of my "friends" turned me in. *shrug*

Wow, what a "friend". I agree with Paulette, that stinks!

This is when your friend should have come to you with her problem with your post, rather than go to HO. Tsk, tsk.
 
I found it really interesting that in a workshop I attended the speaker actually promoted using Facebook as a tool for your business.
 
Really? Wow! In what context?

My status has been updated to say something like this:

"Diane is opening her surprise boxes, which her friends were kind enough to send her from National Conference. Oil Dipping set, anyone?"

One of my contacts asked for a link to my web site, which I sent her by private message.
 
cmdtrgd said:
1. In response to if we could list Pampered Chef as our employer, Ann is correct. However, Pampered Chef is not our employer, we are independent consultants.

2. Some upper level directors are allowed to advertise in ways we aren't - check the policies online.

3. If you are upset, forward it to HO and let it go. Take that time and energy to focus on YOUR business!

4. HO is currently looking at the policies and will (hopefully) soon be updating them.

Excellent advice.
 
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pampcheflisa said:
I found it really interesting that in a workshop I attended the speaker actually promoted using Facebook as a tool for your business.

I was also in a workshop (the PWS one), and the speaker mentioned FB, but did not elaborate about restrictions for use. Making it seem like it was OK to advertise on FB. I wrote on my feedback sheet about it.
 
The context was: "How many of you have Facebook accounts?"...(everyone raises hands)..."Well, it's a great tool to use in your business". "I posted on Tuesday that I was packing for National Conference. I just love Pampered Chef." "So, a friend from high school posted that she loves Pampered Chef too...."
Anyways, she went on to explain that she had this conversation with this friend about hosting and then found out she needed extra income and was waiting to hear back about possibly recruiting.
I'm not making any judgments, just found it interesting that she elaborated that much in a workshop.
 
The feedback sheets from the workshops go to the presenters, but I believe that HO listens to all of the recordings for all workshops. When I did one last year, I got an unedited copy on CD from them.

Hopefully they will let the presenter know...sheesh!
 
I have used FB before but in generalized statements about shows, sales, etc without mentioning PC. I have also seen people blatenly name the business. Those I usually put on my ignore list!
 
I recently added 3 shows to my Sept schedule (my August is booked) by posting that if your a stone lover, Sept is the month for you! Never once was PC mentioned but everyone I am friends with on FB knows! I also just made a new contact in California because a childhood friend (who I have caught up with on FB) gave her my info....I think you can be respectful on the rules and still use the internet as an asset to your business. I would never rely on it completely but it is a nice little bonus!!
 
erinyourpclady said:
I think you can be respectful on the rules and still use the internet as an asset to your business. I would never rely on it completely but it is a nice little bonus!!

ITA, Erin!! I think there are ways that you can use it to your advantage without disregarding policy.
 
Regarding the consultant-only groups on FB: I contacted HO about them. They indicated to me (I'll look for the email) that those groups are also against policy, because the "must be a consultant" requirement makes the membership list of the group a virtual consultant directory. And, as we all know, identifying ourselves as consultants online is prohibited.
 
I've got 2 new possible customers from saying that I was going to PC conference. That's all there is on my face book. If anyone would like to be a buddy I'm listed as Bobby Mayo from Prairieville, La. I welcome new PC friends.
 
There is ambiguity in the current rules since there is a difference between "linking" your personal web site to another site and listing it as a short time comment.It's also extremely difficult to police customers who solicit THEIR facebook contacts for outside orders to THEIR show and post a link to the website as a way to get them or create a facebook event (that is only viewable by their friends list and until the event has happened).I *DO* understand and respect the rules, (and the reasons for them) but as a consultant it can be frustrating to see other companies having a thriving on-line business because their direct seller companies don't restrict the use of a social network. In my opinion, it is different to post a link about a specific event or show that will disappear and is only shared with a social network (i.e., people who are already connected) than it is to open up your own website promoting your PC business that is google crawlable. The world is moving to a virtual model and I personally don't see much difference between networking by having my friend host a show and I meet her friends in her kitchen or meet them over the phone (if it is a catalog show) or through a social networking site. Quite honestly, I think their guests would get better customer service if they could deal with me directly during a catalog show, rather than just giving the host orders. But that's my opinion. I expect that someday we'll catch up with the technology. In the meantime, I just add all my facebook friends to my email list for an intro email and "catch" them that way.
 
Let mesay that I do follow the rules completely.. but would love to see access to FB or other venues to advertise to our own friends (to start with) But they just announced a Florist is now advertising on FB and expect BIG returns.. geeze. I just feel it could only be a positive thing.... And I get red with anger when I see others breaking the rules!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is not fair for them to get away with breaking the rules!!! Until HO changes the rules.. they are there to follow. And I am all for turning in any who violate!!! Blast me for that if you want.. It matters not to me!! Right is right and wrong is wrong!! Simple!!!!
 
What irked me a bit was at conference, they showed how they (HO) used Bloggers to get word out and do some marketing....Uh...HELLO?! Hopefully that is a GOOD thing and shows a turning tide in how they'll let us handling the new age of marketing and let us embrace it. I can see having guidelines- like you can't just set up online shop nationwide or something....but at least let us work in our "friends" circles, or within our local area (like local Chamber of Commerce sites who have online biz-directories).
 
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What I understood was that the bloggers were not affiliated with PC, which means they are not tied to our rules. But I agree, it's frustrating when they don't mention anything about the rules we're bound to, and we all know most new consultants don't read those P&Ps.
 
NooraK said:
What I understood was that the bloggers were not affiliated with PC, which means they are not tied to our rules. But I agree, it's frustrating when they don't mention anything about the rules we're bound to, and we all know most new consultants don't read those P&Ps.
Well, I guess it comes down to changing the world- one person at a time, right? When WE recruit folks, since this is a subject that regularly comes up, then we as CS Cheffers- should be making sure our new team members are reading those guidelines and at the very least- point out the couple of rules we know get overlooked. I know we can't make them read it, but in the support calls, we can refer to them regularly. Thankfully, my recruit is great that way and she does her homework. UNFORTUNATELY, I know of Directors and above who don't even know or follow these rules!*sigh* I will focus on MY business and not what others are doing. There are always those that think the rules do not apply to them- in all areas of life. I can only be responsible for myself and do what I know is right in my heart- because that reflects the person that I am and who God wants me to be.
 

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