toSubmit or Not to Submit Dilemma

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Discussion Overview

The thread centers around a participant's dilemma regarding whether to submit a show without having received all payments from the host. Various participants share their personal experiences and suggestions related to this situation, focusing on trust, payment methods, and submission deadlines.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses a strong preference for not submitting a show until all payments are received, particularly in light of a looming deadline for points.
  • Another participant suggests asking the host for a debit card instead of a check, noting that it is a common practice nowadays.
  • Several users mention the option of having the order shipped directly to them for peace of mind, especially if they are unsure about receiving the checks on time.
  • One participant shares a negative experience with a host who delayed payment, emphasizing the importance of having funds available before submission.
  • Another participant highlights the need to verify submission deadlines, noting confusion about the timing for points related to cookware sales.
  • Some participants agree on trusting the host if they have a prior relationship, while also suggesting the order be shipped to mitigate risk.
  • One user recounts their experience with a host who offered to use a credit card when checks were delayed, indicating flexibility in payment methods can be beneficial.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on whether to submit the show without all payments secured. While some participants advocate for trust in the host, others emphasize caution and the need for secure payment methods.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a range of personal experiences related to payment practices and submission timing within the context of Pampered Chef shows, particularly during a promotional period.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants navigating similar dilemmas regarding payment collection and show submission may find the shared experiences and suggestions relevant.

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I have always had the business practice of NEVER submitting a show until I had all the monies due me. Well we all know tonight at midnight is the last to submit shows for pan-o-rama points. I closed a November show last night and the host (she is a past PC consultant) is sending me the balance in checks this afternoon. The host has ordered the 5 & 7 pieces Exec. Cookware!!! Two of the three checks are small (under $30). The larger check is, of course, the hosts. I would drive to pick them up but she has a school final this morning plus she lives 45 minutes away and we just got blasted with snow (drive would take me over an hour). The host has also rebooked for February because of the special that month. I currently have enough money in my account to cover the withdrawl. DILEMMA: I really want to trust her to put the checks in the mail today PLUS I really want the added Pan-O-Rama points. DO I TRUST HER? SHOULD I SUBMIT THE SHOW? What would be your gut feeling on this?
 
ask her if she has a debit card instead of a check...
 
THAT is a great idea! Nearly everyone does nowdays and if she's writing a check... it's the same thing anyway! Great advise soinlove808!
 
Or have it shipped to you. The peace of mind would be worth the drive to deliver it.
 
I'm with Beth. I'd submit the show, but ship it to me.
 
If you know her, I'd trust her. If she's a new host I'd ask for a debit.
 
I'd have it shipped to you definitely. I had a customer, HAD to have the decorator... well, it's been 2 weeks since I let her know (and I've called a couple times) and still no check and no return call. I'm SOOOOO glad I had it sent to me! Worst case scenario, I keep it! LOL... but being out that money made my one show bounce with HO... so just make sure you have enough in your account for your end to cover it.
 
I thought POR points were due at the end of November? Reread the flyer (I cannot pull it up right now) and double check. This may save the headache of submitting the order.

I would call and ask for a debit card. I close 99% of my shows over the phone with my host and always get a debit or credit card.
 
I'm in the same boat. I'm having the order sent to me and then delivering it to her. It's her first show and I want to be sure I'm not left without the $$.
 
wadesgirl said:
I thought POR points were due at the end of November? Reread the flyer (I cannot pull it up right now) and double check. This may save the headache of submitting the order.

I would call and ask for a debit card. I close 99% of my shows over the phone with my host and always get a debit or credit card.
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This is what the website says about POR:
The information below reflects the points you have earned through cookware sales of Professional, Executive, and Stainless Cookware and includes all cookware sales from Shows held and individual orders placed between Aug. 1 and midnight CT Nov. 30, 2007. All cookware sales must be submitted by midnight CT on December 5, 2007. You may also have earned points by recruiting Aug. 13 - Sept. 17, 2007, to receive these points, your Consultant(s) must qualify by October 31, 2007. You may select only one of each piece of cookware shown below.


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quiverfull7 said:
This is what the website says about POR:
The information below reflects the points you have earned through cookware sales of Professional, Executive, and Stainless Cookware and includes all cookware sales from Shows held and individual orders placed between Aug. 1 and midnight CT Nov. 30, 2007. All cookware sales must be submitted by midnight CT on December 5, 2007. You may also have earned points by recruiting Aug. 13 - Sept. 17, 2007, to receive these points, your Consultant(s) must qualify by October 31, 2007. You may select only one of each piece of cookware shown below.


This is for POR ...
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Yah! I couldn't remember exactly what it had said and thought it was only through the end of the month (since we had 4 months to collect points) but this makes me happy, it means I can get my sister the lid for her 12" skillet.
 
I agree if you know trust her. But have the order shipped to you. It seems to HO about 7-8 days to take the money from your account so if it's not to you by day 5 I would make a trip to pick it up.
 
Only if you have the money in your account. I submitted a show yesterday and they already took the money out of the account. I have online banking and saw it. So I wouldn't play with fire and submit if you don't have the money to cover it. I had a host say that she would mail 3 checks to me last week. I called yesterday to say I hadn't received them. She offered to put it on her credit card and get the money from the other people. They will make it work if they need to. I made a policy to never put in an order without all the money submitted. Hopefully I will be able to stick to it.
 
climbercanoe3 said:
Only if you have the money in your account. I submitted a show yesterday and they already took the money out of the account. I have online banking and saw it. So I wouldn't play with fire and submit if you don't have the money to cover it. I had a host say that she would mail 3 checks to me last week. I called yesterday to say I hadn't received them. She offered to put it on her credit card and get the money from the other people. They will make it work if they need to. I made a policy to never put in an order without all the money submitted. Hopefully I will be able to stick to it.
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That is amazing! They just debited the amount from my account on Nov 29th for shows submitted Nov 19th. None of my shows from Nov 30th have been deducted so far. Did you use your PC Debit or a different card?
 
Why have it shipped to you? Just have her pay with her debit and don't get on those snowy roads unless you ABSOLUTELY have to. I hope it works out for you. While it won't count for POR it will can count for the SAT!!
 
Yup, PC Debit. I wish I knew how it worked!
 
Chef Kearns said:
Why have it shipped to you? Just have her pay with her debit and don't get on those snowy roads unless you ABSOLUTELY have to. I hope it works out for you. While it won't count for POR it will can count for the SAT!!
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Isn't the submission deadline for both tonight?
 
Yes- deadline for POR and SAT is tonight.
 
chefann said:
Yes- deadline for POR and SAT is tonight.
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Yup, I was wrong. I just went back and read the flyer. I thought the shows also had to be submitted by the 30th, but it is the 5th of Dec. Sorry for any confusion!
 

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the "toSubmit or Not to Submit Dilemma" in direct sales?

The "toSubmit or Not to Submit Dilemma" refers to the decision-making process that direct sales consultants face when considering whether to submit orders or not. This can involve weighing the potential benefits of submitting orders against the risks of not meeting sales goals or personal quotas.

What factors should I consider when deciding to submit my orders?

When deciding to submit your orders, consider factors such as your current sales goals, the potential for future sales, your inventory levels, and any promotions or incentives being offered by your company. Additionally, think about your customer relationships and how submitting orders may affect them.

How can I overcome the fear of submitting orders?

To overcome the fear of submitting orders, focus on the positive outcomes of submitting, such as achieving your sales goals and providing excellent service to your customers. Additionally, seek support from your team or mentor, and remind yourself of past successes to build confidence in your decision-making.

What are the potential consequences of not submitting orders?

Not submitting orders can lead to missed sales opportunities, lower income, and potential penalties if you have sales quotas to meet. It may also affect your relationship with customers who are waiting for their products, leading to dissatisfaction and a loss of trust.

How can I make a more informed decision about submitting orders?

To make a more informed decision, analyze your sales data, track customer preferences, and stay updated on company promotions. Additionally, consult with fellow consultants or your upline for advice and insights based on their experiences. This can help you weigh the pros and cons more effectively.

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