The_Kitchen_Guy
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[soapbox mode]baychef said:<snip for brevity>I'm not angry either but I really get tired of the left and right crap. The liberals and the conservative crap. Labels are so counter productive. My best friend is on the opposite end of the political scale than I am. I have no problem saying that some Dem. politicians are idiots, but there seems that those that support Rep. have a very difficult time admitting that there are some Rep. politicians that are idiots too.
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My irritation is the media. I want to know all about what happened at VTech too, but it is NON-STOP 24 hours a day dragging everyone in front of the camera. We are turning into a nation that thrives on tragedy and keeps barfing it out. Even our local media posted on their website...if anyone has any ties to V Tech...call us, e-mail us!!!
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I think we all pretty well know what we are, labels or no. When I was in college, I was "moderate" and probably leaned more left, in fact, a lot of what the Democratic party was offering reflected my values - end the war in Viet Nam (although I would have preferred to win it instead of wimping out) and (in those days) both the Dems and the ACLU expressed the value of "I disagree with you but will defend your right to say it."
I didn't change - I still pretty much hold the same values as I did in college but with the shift in the parties, I find myself embraced by the Republicans while the Democratic party has moved very far to the left. Today, it's the left that is promoting censorship (a la Al Sharpton) while it's the right that exrpesses "I disagree with you but will defend your right to say it." It's the left that wants to bring back the stupid "fairness doctrine" which is anything but fair, which is why it went away years ago.
One of my good friends openly professes to be a "liberal" (his term) and his company gives away millions of dollars every year to lots of lost (and IMHO, some pretty goofy) causes but they also send about a $1 million to Jamacan relief every year. I admire his dedication to his causes.
The other thing about left-right relationships these days is how we have become polarized and free discussion has degenerated into hate and name calling. It used to be that a Republican and a Democrat could argue all day long in the Senate, and at the gavel, walk across the street and have a beer together. Not anymore - they all seem to hate one another. You are correct - there are embarrassments to both parties.
Want an example? Sean Hannity has a feature on his show called "The Hate Hannity Hot Line." He publishes a phone number, with an answering machine, where anyone can call and leave a message for him. He plays some of the messages on his show. The vile hatred those people spew are things I can't imagine saying to my worst enemy - some of those people are seriously deranged. Granted, he picks the worst to air but the fact anyone can say those things is shocking. While some people may be outrageous to see if they can just get on the air, one has to marvel at even being able to conceive such things. You can hear the feature at the bottom of the hour of his show, if you don't want to listen to the rest of his show.
The state of the media in this country is pathetic. The JibJab cartoon What We Call The News is too true to be funny.
The rush to get to air "First with the worst" just sickens me. NBC news was the lucky recipient of the diatribe of the V-Tech shooter. They chose to air parts of it when it should have just been buried. Playing the ravings of the madman played right into his hands - he was looking for immortality and now, thanks to NBC, he's got it.
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