soWhat Is the Call on the 2Nd Going to Be About?

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Discussion Overview

The thread centers around participants' speculations and concerns regarding an upcoming conference call scheduled for December 2nd. Many express curiosity about the topics that will be discussed, particularly in relation to changes or updates for the upcoming year.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Opinion-based
  • Anecdotal

Main Points Raised

  • One participant mentions receiving an email about the call and wonders what news will be shared regarding 2011.
  • Another participant expresses nervousness about the call and shares their scheduling conflict with a recruiting interview.
  • Several participants speculate about potential announcements, including changes to the career plan, easing submission requirements, or even a Christmas gift.
  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, shares that they heard from an upper-level director about flaws in the new career plan and possible revisions.
  • Another participant expresses frustration over the reliance on a single person's submissions affecting their pay, highlighting concerns about fairness in the current structure.
  • One participant notes that they did not receive the email about the call and seeks information from others.
  • Another participant suggests that the call might be a motivational session rather than a significant announcement regarding the career plan.
  • One participant recalls a previous year's announcement of a special promotion in January and speculates that a similar announcement could occur during the call.
  • Another participant shares a plea for earlier trip announcements to help consultants start the year on track.
  • Several participants express confusion over why not all consultants were invited to the call.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ among participants regarding the nature of the call and what it might entail, with no clear consensus emerging on the expected announcements.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and opinions based on their roles within the consultant community, reflecting a range of sentiments about the upcoming call and its implications for their business practices.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants interested in the upcoming call and those seeking to understand the potential impacts of the discussed topics on their business practices may find this thread relevant.

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Did you get the email today about the call on the 2nd? What news is going to be given about 2011...
 
Not sure either, but those emails make me a little nervous...
 
I'm so bummed! The Thursday night call I have a recruiting interview and on Friday I'm doing a daytime show!Honestly it made me a bit nervous too but hopefully it's nothing...
 
Maybe that they're hiring someone to proofread the newsletters?!?
 
Maybe that they are giving us a Christmas gift and easing up on the 2 SC lines submitting requirement? Maybe more points for the trip just because we are actually doing the work of directors but not getting paid for it? Hurry, Santa, we want to know!
 
Maybe they will give us more points since we could not sell the DCB! :sun: if they would just double what I submit from now until December 30th, I would go out an buy my grass skirt!:bugeye::eek:
 
I heard through and upper level director that HO has admited that the new career plan does have some flaws in it (hmmm, ya think!?). Maybe they are planing to make a few revisions for us?
 
Oooh Linda... do ya think maybe really?
 
pamperedlinda said:
I heard through and upper level director that HO has admited that the new career plan does have some flaws in it (hmmm, ya think!?). Maybe they are planing to make a few revisions for us?

Oh, wow...that would be awesome! I just really hate this bouncing back and forth, and always being worried about that one person submitting $150. I hate having to base my pay on one person...even if 12 other people have submitted for the month. :(
 
I didn't get an e-mail about any call on the 2nd...can someone PM me or post the info?
 
I didn't get an e-mail either. Please post! ;)
 
Nanisu said:
Maybe that they are giving us a Christmas gift and easing up on the 2 SC lines submitting requirement? Maybe more points for the trip just because we are actually doing the work of directors but not getting paid for it? Hurry, Santa, we want to know!

PLEASE!! ...or at least paying us as D as long as we keep the title.

They have lost so many good directors by trying to weed out the dead wood. (at least my opinion). It's so frustrating to lose out on so much each month that one chosen person doesn't submit - we work harder but get paid less. uggg. Last month I was one person short of "performing as" director and at the same time 2 new consultants qualified. Even the bonus was at TL pay. Of course this month we are a "director" team. I have never lost the title but what good is it if the money doesn't come with it. I really believe that the whole thing is about more for those at the top. ...sorry, I'm speaking to the choir.

I don't want to get my hopes up though, I have been disappointed before.
 
This was the email:

Dear Directors,


Please join Doreen Grass, Dan Arwine and me on a conference call, Thursday, December 2 from 6:30pm to 7:30pm (CT), or Friday, December 3, from 1:30pm to 2:30pm (CT).

We are looking forward to updating you on some of the things we have been working on in preparation for 2011.

The phone numbers for the calls are:

Thursday, December 2, 6:30pm (CT) - 866-261-7147/Conference ID 1498823.

Friday, December 3, 1:30pm (CT) - 866-261-3182/Conference ID 1498826.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving!

Jean




And now that I think about it, all of the people involved are in the sales end of things...so I doubt it will be an announcement about a difference in the career plan. I won't be getting my hopes up.
 
Wonder why some got it and some didn't....I have kept my D status (in name and pay) all year. Those who got the e-mail -- have you? Maybe it has to do with the CP if you were all TL in pay and Dir in name only and they are changing things around....that would be great!!!

If not, I was wondering if they are going to start bagging the orders for us prior to shipping? But still don't know why some of us would not have been included??

I hate mysteries!
 
Chefbeckyd said:
And now that I think about it, all of the people involved are in the sales end of things...so I doubt it will be an announcement about a difference in the career plan. I won't be getting my hopes up.

I just re-read it this morning Becky and had the same thought. It it were about a Career Plan change, it would definitely come from Marla & Jean... my guess is it's a rah-rah call to kick off the New Year and a *don't forget to work* even though it's December... etc.
 
pamperedlinda said:
I heard through and upper level director that HO has admited that the new career plan does have some flaws in it (hmmm, ya think!?). Maybe they are planing to make a few revisions for us?

The Canadian Directors and above have to have 2 SCs to be paid as such. EVERYONE -- Adv and above....this type of structure would overturn some apple carts, but make it more fair -- instead of the D supporting the AD and aboves, they would have to work to support themselves....
 
finley1991 said:
I just re-read it this morning Becky and had the same thought. It it were about a Career Plan change, it would definitely come from Marla & Jean... my guess is it's a rah-rah call to kick off the New Year and a *don't forget to work* even though it's December... etc.

That would make sense, Colleen -- to give cheers and a 'get em' going, don't give up' talk to some who are on the edge of Directorship (or on the brink of losing it).
 
Oh, one more thing I thought of. At night I always read what was happening a year ago in my journal and it was yesterday that they announced a special promo for January.. I think it was the triple points day. So maybe something like that? My other thought is that they are going to announce something and the call is a *heads-up* for us before our teams hear it.

One request I made (actually a plea) to my D was that they NEED to announce the trip sooner. The reason (imo) being, if they announce, let's say Turks & Caicos (a girl can dream) and someone who's never worked at the trip level before hears it and is DYING to go and they hear the announcement on Jan 5th (or whatever date in Jan), they are already starting off the year NOT being on-track.

According to the On-Track Guide for this year, to be on-track for Toronto, we'd need 4000+ points at the end of January. So from the 5th-31st, they have to motor to make it happen to be on-track, and it's even more points for the higher level trips. HO is the one that beats it into us to have Jan scheduled by tomorrow. Why not announce it NOW to inspire us and our teams to make that happen?

On the other hand, I know that the trips are awards for consistency, etc. But enough inspiration could make someone consistent if they want something bad enough.

I just think that announcing the trip in Jan sets those who have never earned one or even know what it's all about up for failure because it can be hard to catch up...

Who knows...
 
finley1991 said:
One request I made (actually a plea) to my D was that they NEED to announce the trip sooner. The reason (imo) being, if they announce, let's say Turks & Caicos (a girl can dream) and someone who's never worked at the trip level before hears it and is DYING to go and they hear the announcement on Jan 5th (or whatever date in Jan), they are already starting off the year NOT being on-track.


...On the other hand, I know that the trips are awards for consistency, etc. But enough inspiration could make someone consistent if they want something bad enough.

I just think that announcing the trip in Jan sets those who have never earned one or even know what it's all about up for failure because it can be hard to catch up...

Who knows...

I agree! For example, if they announced a Mediterranean Cruise, you can bet I would be seriously over-booking January and doing EVERYTHING I could to get as many triple points as possible!
 
Weird that they didn't invite everyone to the call.

And I'm betting if they were to announce trips in Dec, that people would start moving Dec shows to Jan to help boost their progress, causing a huge drop in Dec for corporate. I'm betting they will keep holding off until Jan to alleviate lower Dec sales. ;)
 
Sheila said:
And I'm betting if they were to announce trips in Dec, that people would start moving Dec shows to Jan to help boost their progress, causing a huge drop in Dec for corporate. I'm betting they will keep holding off until Jan to alleviate lower Dec sales. ;)

That's exactly why they changed it to January.
 
The advanced director call is at 3:30 that day, so they are doing it in waves by level apparently.

I am thinking it might be an announcement about trip points also or some kind of recruiting promotion for December...
 
Sheila said:
Weird that they didn't invite everyone to the call.

And I'm betting if they were to announce trips in Dec, that people would start moving Dec shows to Jan to help boost their progress, causing a huge drop in Dec for corporate. I'm betting they will keep holding off until Jan to alleviate lower Dec sales. ;)


hmmm, most of my Dec. hosts are doing it specifically for Christmas Shopping, and some of them are Cookie Exchange shows, so I don't know how I'd get them to switch to Jan.!

Usually, the only sales I have after about the 15th of Dec. are online sales.

But - I would be getting those fence-sitters to book for Jan!
 
See, for us overseas it wouldn't matter. By mid Nov, if they haven't already placed their order they probably won't get it in time for Christmas! LOL
 
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execs have the call on the 1st so they are doing in waves based on title. All of the directors on my team got the invitation. Not all of them have earned the current trip or are even on track for one.
 
I finally got the e-mail. I kept checking spam and refreshing the browser, with nothing. Got up this morning and it was there. Weird that it took SEVERAL hours.
 
I loved it when they told us the disney trip in november... so i would be totally happy that would start releasing before jan 5th cause it really drove me in december to get my jan shows booked. That is what i am hoping for :) And that they admit and do something about the career plan.
 
Sheila said:
I finally got the e-mail. I kept checking spam and refreshing the browser, with nothing. Got up this morning and it was there. Weird that it took SEVERAL hours.

Me too -- Sheila, we must be on the end of the list! :o
 
Janice, apparently we are! LOL
 
jwpamp said:
If not, I was wondering if they are going to start bagging the orders for us prior to shipping? But still don't know why some of us would not have been included??

Am I totally imagining this, or didn't they announce they would start doing this??
 

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