....Sigh....another Month as a Tl Instead of a D

[Nanisu]

Had my two SC's, they submitted, one of the recruits under one of them submitted, the second one I called and offered to put a show in under her name, explained to her why I needed this , offered to let her keep the commission, and she......hung up on me.....called her recruiter (who happens to be her daughter), and asked if there was an issue I needed to apologize for, and the daughter said (direct quote here) : "oh you shouldn't have called her. I know she's my mom but she's evil. She's doing this to get back at me.". Um....what about me?

So, no director for month # 2.....


sigh

 

[chefkathy]

Ugh! That is insane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[baychef]

Wow, what a healthy Mother Daughter relationship! Good Lord....did Mom evern hear of unconditional love? And what horrible thing could the daughter have done to warrent such childish behavior from the Mom?

I too will be paid as a TL instead of an AD because those in my downline are not performing. I had ALL areas green for an AD except my 1st gen director who for the second month in a row has been the only part of green that has prevented me getting paid as an AD. My feelings for PC are not high right now. I need income to pay my bills and it is not secure enough. I was in tears last night because I was so overcome with fear on how I can make the short fall of about $600 plus I will have a tax bill over $1000 that I can spread out, but part of that will need to be added on.

Yes, I have called for bookings. The 4 that I had has turned into 3. 3 strong recruit leads will no long return my calls.

So my thoughts are...do I request to go back to a TL and join an additional DS company along with this one? Or do I take more time out of my life and and get a part time job?

Sorry to be so negative but this is month 3 of this and it is impacting my life in a very negative way.

Thanks for the vent.

 

[pamperedlinda]

Wow Nancy, what a bitch! I think I'd be tempted to send her an email and let her know that her actions hurt many more than her daughter. Then I'd be done with her, she'd have to make a HUGE, very sincere apology before I lifted a finger to help her again.

 

[BethCooks4U]

I agree with Linda! That was totally uncalled for. It's not your fault she's upset with her daughter - and why did she sign up under her in the first place?

{{{{{HUGS}}}}} Nancy and Ann!!


I was paid as TL in June & July too. I thought I was okay with the thought of losing D if it happened but we've added team members this month and I have a couple who are joining in September and I had an over $4K month myself for August and when it came down to yesterday I was not okay with it. The chosen person who HAD to submit says she did, so I think I'm okay. I HATE this pressure. Gotta keep getting new people!

 

[baychef]

Trying to get people, Beth, but they fall through. I was so sure of the 3 of 4...the most reluctant one signed. Now the others do not return my calls.

I am tired of pressuring people and now I feel like getting a party is next to impossible. And I am even taking a shower!!:approve:

Oh well, I may have to change somethings up to take some of the pressure off. I want to sell PC and I want to enjoy it. Lately I can't have both!

 

[BethCooks4U]

Trying to get people, Beth, but they fall through. I was so sure of the 3 of 4...the most reluctant one signed. Now the others do not return my calls.

I am tired of pressuring people and now I feel like getting a party is next to impossible. And I am even taking a shower!!:approve:

Oh well, I may have to change somethings up to take some of the pressure off. I want to sell PC and I want to enjoy it. Lately I can't have both!

I know Ann! I was actually saying I need to get more new people but I do know what you mean - some days it seems near impossible. Hang in there. You're an awesome leader and things will turn around. Let it go, take a breath, and things will clear!

 

[pamperedbecky]

Unless my 2 SC lines surprised me late last night and submitted something, this is my 3rd month where I didn't meet all D requirements. Goodbye Directorship. Things aren't looking good at all and for the first time ever, I'm contemplating what I want to do with PC. I love it, but it's gotten too hard lately to find the time to put into it and, frankly, it's become much harder for me to get bookings lately. The biggest reason is because of the time I'm not putting into it, but still seems harder lately anyway.

My kids are getting busier and it's been kind of nice not worrying about having tons of shows and having to find kid coverage when my husband isn't home from work in time, for example. I need to re-explore my WHY and see what I can do to motivate myself. It's the first time ever going into this relinquishment stuff and to be honest, I'm not as bent out of shape about it as I thought I'd be, so that's not a good sign.

 

[cmdtrgd]

I have started to motivate my team with a Deep Covered Baker drawing. They earn tickets for various things throughout the month. However, if we don't qualify as a director team, we don't draw for the baker. I finally got it through to them at last month's meeting how their actions (or lack of) can effect others. Unfortunately August was month 3, but I finally have some with potential recruits and it looks like I'll actually have more than 2 at my meeting tonight!

 

[Sheila]

(((hugs))) ladies! I'm sorry that you are all having such a difficult time with your teams not wanting to perform. Is it a "summer" and "back to school" thing? My team is doing less, but with 9 lines, 4 of which are SC lines, it makes it easier for me to maintain the Director title. And I was freaking out because we only had one more week of the month when SC line #2 went active! I can't imagine waiting for the page to be updated to find out if I made it or didn't make it this month. Luckily, I haven't had to experience that one yet & hope that I don't have to any time soon!

 

[BethCooks4U]

(((hugs))) ladies! I'm sorry that you are all having such a difficult time with your teams not wanting to perform. Is it a "summer" and "back to school" thing? My team is doing less, but with 9 lines, 4 of which are SC lines, it makes it easier for me to maintain the Director title. And I was freaking out because we only had one more week of the month when SC line #2 went active! I can't imagine waiting for the page to be updated to find out if I made it or didn't make it this month. Luckily, I haven't had to experience that one yet & hope that I don't have to any time soon!

Sheila, you have been lucky. Not all SC teams perform as such. On paper it looks easy but it is far from that.

I have 5 SC lines and a total of 15 lines and more often than not I am paid as TL. I can't get it through my SCs that they need to coordinate their sales in the same month as their recruits' sales if they aren't going to submit every month. They get more that way too. My structure still isn't strong enough to be assured that I'll make it because many of my team are hobbyists. That's why I'm always looking for the next recruit. In fact, I have someone who is signing this month and she already has someone who will be signing with her (a 2-fer!).

 

[chefkathy]

Things aren't looking good at all and for the first time ever, I'm contemplating what I want to do with PC. I love it, but it's gotten too hard lately to find the time to put into it and, frankly, it's become much harder for me to get bookings lately. The biggest reason is because of the time I'm not putting into it, but still seems harder lately anyway.

My kids are getting busier and it's been kind of nice not worrying about having tons of shows and having to find kid coverage when my husband isn't home from work in time, for example. I need to re-explore my WHY and see what I can do to motivate myself. It's the first time ever going into this relinquishment stuff and to be honest, I'm not as bent out of shape about it as I thought I'd be, so that's not a good sign.

I could have written this. I've had so much "life" going on that I've been a TL for over a year and I just don't care. My biz is picking up a bit, but I'm finding myself short on time to do the kind of job I'd like to do. Last night I was returning phone messages from a WEEK ago and that is just not the way I want to do business. I've also been struggling with a lot of stuff personally and it inevitably spills into my biz.

Now DS1 is having surgery in a few weeks and DS2 is turning one, so the next two months will be crazy. I do have 5 shows for Sept, which is probably about my limit, but haven't been working on recruiting. I just don't have the time to train someone effectively, so I just don't recruit. I don't want to let them down.

Anyway.....just some more ramblings.

 

[finley1991]

HUGS ladies!!!!

 

[baychef]

Kate, sounds like things are going well!! And Beth, I know you meant things that you need to do. Thanks to all for the support. What frustrates me is I see good leaders right here (and I know there are more) and they are falling one by one. I see PC business benefiting fewer and fewer. Right now my financial picture was not good to begin with but I thought that the fall would help me keep my nose above the water.

I know I have a horrible attitude right not but I am so afraid with my financial picture right now and PC is no longer the answer that it once was.

 

[pamperedbecky]

I could have written this. I've had so much "life" going on that I've been a TL for over a year and I just don't care. My biz is picking up a bit, but I'm finding myself short on time to do the kind of job I'd like to do. Last night I was returning phone messages from a WEEK ago and that is just not the way I want to do business. I've also been struggling with a lot of stuff personally and it inevitably spills into my biz.

Now DS1 is having surgery in a few weeks and DS2 is turning one, so the next two months will be crazy. I do have 5 shows for Sept, which is probably about my limit, but haven't been working on recruiting. I just don't have the time to train someone effectively, so I just don't recruit. I don't want to let them down.

Anyway.....just some more ramblings.

Yep, I hear ya, Deb. How frustrating! We are in a very similar boat. I've already decided to get my LCPC license renewed and I would have done it even if my business was stronger than ever, but it's meaning more and more to me to get all my CEUs done so I can get my license renewed and keep that option open if I ever decide to go back into that field. For the first time ever since I quit my "previous life" job, it's sounding kind of appealing and exciting. I don't think I'd jump back in anytime soon (the next couple years) but it'll be nice to just have that option some day.

I hope Brendan's surgery goes well. That's stressful in and of itself, I know. Uggg. Why can't life just be easier sometimes?

 

[pamperedbecky]

Uggggg- DANG!! ONE SC line just came through as active, but I'm assuming it all would have updated at the same time so the other one must not have.

Soooooo close this month! And of course it was my 3rd month.:cry::cry:

 

[BethCooks4U]

Kate, sounds like things are going well!! And Beth, I know you meant things that you need to do. Thanks to all for the support. What frustrates me is I see good leaders right here (and I know there are more) and they are falling one by one. I see PC business benefiting fewer and fewer. Right now my financial picture was not good to begin with but I thought that the fall would help me keep my nose above the water.

I know I have a horrible attitude right not but I am so afraid with my financial picture right now and PC is no longer the answer that it once was.

I agree. My SED says we are making more money with this new career plan and had no answer when I said "sure brand new consultants who recruit can and those at the top are for sure but many of us at the D & AD level are making less". I know I'm making less even when I'm "paid as" D. It's pretty telling that EIGHT new NED's walked the stage this July. I think just 2-3 promoted to NED in the first 7 years I was a consultant. IMHO it's all about those at the top.

That being said, I am still loving my business more than I'm frustrated by it. I thought I was fine with losing my title but when it came that close I wasn't so I need to do more about getting somewhere (AKA promoting).

It makes me sad to hear that such top people are having so many problems in their businesses. Hopefully things will sort out and success will be there again soon.

 

[BethCooks4U]

Uggggg- DANG!! ONE SC line just came through as active, but I'm assuming it all would have updated at the same time so the other one must not have.

Soooooo close this month! And of course it was my 3rd month.:cry::cry:

You still have hope. Sometimes it takes several steps to update your whole team. I wish mine would too so I knew she made it in time - when I went to bed her show wasn't in but I woke up to a text that it was, I just don't know for sure it was before 12 central. Ugg.


ETA: Just rechecked again and I'm GREEN for August as a Director WOO HOO!

I'm pulling and praying for you too Becky!

 

[chefkathy]

Yep, I hear ya, Deb. How frustrating! We are in a very similar boat. I've already decided to get my LCPC license renewed and I would have done it even if my business was stronger than ever, but it's meaning more and more to me to get all my CEUs done so I can get my license renewed and keep that option open if I ever decide to go back into that field. For the first time ever since I quit my "previous life" job, it's sounding kind of appealing and exciting. I don't think I'd jump back in anytime soon (the next couple years) but it'll be nice to just have that option some day.I hope Brendan's surgery goes well. That's stressful in and of itself, I know. Uggg. Why can't life just be easier sometimes?

We're having it done at UIC, so I know he's in good hands, but I just don't know what to expect post-op in terms of his pain, going to school, etc, so I haven't scheduled any shows for that last week in September (surgery is Sept 20th). He'll be in a long arm cast for up to 6 weeks again and then we get to do PT yet AGAIN. That and driving to/from UIC for the doctor appointments (we've been up there three times now, then he has a post-op appt at one week) really suck up a lot of time! And my mind isn't as sharp as it once was so I actually find it kind of distracting to try to make business calls while driving on the Dan Ryan LOL!

 

[pamperedbecky]

You still have hope. Sometimes it takes several steps to update your whole team. I wish mine would too so I knew she made it in time - when I went to bed her show wasn't in but I woke up to a text that it was, I just don't know for sure it was before 12 central. Ugg.


ETA: Just rechecked again and I'm GREEN for August as a Director WOO HOO!

I'm pulling and praying for you too Becky!

GREAT BETH!! I'm glad you're green.

I'll be crossing my fingers it updates more and shows another SC for me! Thanks!

 

[pamperedbecky]

We're having it done at UIC, so I know he's in good hands, but I just don't know what to expect post-op in terms of his pain, going to school, etc, so I haven't scheduled any shows for that last week in September (surgery is Sept 20th). He'll be in a long arm cast for up to 6 weeks again and then we get to do PT yet AGAIN. That and driving to/from UIC for the doctor appointments (we've been up there three times now, then he has a post-op appt at one week) really suck up a lot of time! And my mind isn't as sharp as it once was so I actually find it kind of distracting to try to make business calls while driving on the Dan Ryan LOL!

Yeah, really - be careful on the Dan Ryan! That's a good plan not to schedule any shows the week after. You can use any extra time you have to close out other September shows and maybe any catalog shows. Poor guy. PT is so time consuming, as you know. I hope this surgery is a huge success. Thank goodness there are good hospitals like that around here.

One thing I completely appreciate about this job is the flexibility. So, when he needs you to just sit on the couch with him or in bed with him (as much as you can with a 1 year old crawling around), you're able to do that because you've got the kind of job that is flexible and allows you to be home for this without missing pay or using up sick time at another job. I know I felt that way when Meena had her tonsils/adenoids/ear tubes surgery. ALL I did was sit on the couch for a week. Sure, I could have made better use of my time by making phone calls etc, but I was just so thankful I could be there for her that I didn't really care. At least you have that.

GOOD LUCK!

 

[Sheila]

Congrats Beth!

Becky I'm sorry your 2nd line isn't showing up.

Debbie, I hope his surgery & procedure go easy for you both!

I ended up with 7 of the 9 lines active & 3 of the 4 SC lines active. One of the two SC line who I can always count on to be active wasn't this month! That's crazy!!! And the two iffy SC lines were both active. So weird. I barely made $1,250 and had to put a post on FB to get there! But the team pulled through in the final hour and bumped us up to $13,672.24 in Team Sales. I wasn't expecting it to be that high this month with my sales down.

 

[baychef]

Deb, keep us posted on his surgery. Not much fun when your little ones are the ones having surgery.

Beth, so glad they came through! It is just imparitive that you have a strong team as each person promotes. I had 2 strong ones promote at the same time but 1 is not so strong. It's a mess and I am just worried about my finances.

 

[pvt35115]

I really don't think this is a wait and see kind of business. I am in contact with my team every month and I know up front which one will be active...because I ASK them. I've done this since the beginning of my directorship and have not missed my paid as level once (over 14 months)

I was not a director in the "old" plan but this month my commission is over $2300 and on the average is $1800 and $2000 each month.

It is my job to stay in contact with my team... I have to EARN those overrides each month. They have learned to expect me to contact them each month and they know I will be checking on how their shows are going.

 

[BethCooks4U]

I really don't think this is a wait and see kind of business. I am in contact with my team every month and I know up front which one will be active...because I ASK them. I've done this since the beginning of my directorship and have not missed my paid as level once (over 14 months)

I was not a director in the "old" plan but this month my commission is over $2300 and on the average is $1800 and $2000 each month.

It is my job to stay in contact with my team... I have to EARN those overrides each month. They have learned to expect me to contact them each month and they know I will be checking on how their shows are going.

Yeah, I don't think any of us are "wait and see" directors - I know they exist just not among those posting on this thread. The group that posts on here are very active with our teams but have to deal with them not returning our calls, emails and attempts at contact.

I call and email my team several times a month and I take care to NOT wait for the end of the month as I don't want them to perceive that it's all about me. I call them well before the 15th and other deadlines to remind them not to miss out on promotions, etc. etc. But if they never call back you're never sure until the numbers come in.

Sorry but I took offense at this post - not just for me but for the others too.

 

[chefkathy]

Yeah, I don't think any of us are "wait and see" directors - I know they exist just not among those posting on this thread. The group that posts on here are very active with our teams but have to deal with them not returning our calls, emails and attempts at contact.

I call and email my team several times a month and I take care to NOT wait for the end of the month as I don't want them to perceive that it's all about me. I call them well before the 15th and other deadlines to remind them not to miss out on promotions, etc. etc. But if they never call back you're never sure until the numbers come in.

Sorry but I took offense at this post - not just for me but for the others too.

I'm with Beth. Most of us are not just sitting around watching the numbers and not trying to communicate with our team members. For me, I contact my team and they don't respond. How long can I keep calling and calling before going crazy???

So the idea is to get a new team. Working on that.

 

[pamperedbecky]

I'm with Beth. Most of us are not just sitting around watching the numbers and not trying to communicate with our team members. For me, I contact my team and they don't respond. How long can I keep calling and calling before going crazy???

So the idea is to get a new team. Working on that.

My thoughts exactly! The ones who respond to me are the ones doing well - not a huge surprise. They're the ones I don't have to worry about. I know they're working their businesses. Sure, they're having some slumps just like a lot of us, but they're working to try to get it back up to speed.

 

[Chef Kearns]

Great responses ladies. I took offense to her post as well, Beth. I don't have anything positive to add here. I am so grateful that you guys share so openly what you are going through. I know that I can relate to you and your experiences. Good luck to everyone this fall!

 

[pamperedbecky]

I really don't think this is a wait and see kind of business. I am in contact with my team every month and I know up front which one will be active...because I ASK them. I've done this since the beginning of my directorship and have not missed my paid as level once (over 14 months)

I was not a director in the "old" plan but this month my commission is over $2300 and on the average is $1800 and $2000 each month.

It is my job to stay in contact with my team... I have to EARN those overrides each month. They have learned to expect me to contact them each month and they know I will be checking on how their shows are going.

I hear what you're saying and I agree - we have to earn our overrides. On the other hand, when we ARE putting in our time with our consultants and NOT getting overrides, that's frustrating too. It takes a lot of work. Maybe I'm just not the best at balancing all aspects of the biz, but I feel at times that my time spent supporting/training/whatever my consultants does take away from my personal biz. For me, the most frequent culprit for me not getting "paid as" a Director is that SC requirement.

I've been a director for 5 1/2 years so I've experienced both the old plan and the current career plan. Only until the past few months have I not been paid as a director. Up until then, I had a strong team and I feel I've been a strong Director. Unfortunately the shortcomings in my team's performance are also coinciding with my personal thoughts on where I want to take my own business - or not. I wish the timing were different, that's for sure!

 

[Nanisu]

I think there is just so much you can do to push a rope--I coach it seems like every day.