Laugh of the Day... Well, Kind Of!

[finley1991]

Good Lord! She just e-mailed me this TODAY!!!!

Colleen,

I will send you the checks this week. I cannot give people back their money because I really want the show to go on. I have the money in a envelope and have it on the mirror to find and send. I am at the library today because my internet is down at home. Please do not respond to this email as I will not get it.

I will find the envelope with the checks in my car and get them in the mail. I know I have your address in my text messages and will look it up and get them to you. Please do not cancel my show we really want the items.

Thank you,

Jennifer

I IMMEDIATELY texted her the SAME message I have said over and over that the show has been cancelled, I cannot process it at this point and to return to checks/money to her friends.

What else can I do here? Any suggestions?

PS: I'm REALLY irritated!!!!

 

[ChefBeckyD]

I wouldn't worry about it one way or the other.If you get the money - turn in a show. Consider it a bonus!If you don't get the money, then Oh Well! You weren't expecting it anyway!Oh - and never let her host a show again!

 

[PCJenni]

I am with Becky... if she somehow gets herself together enough to FIND the check (loved that by the way!!) in her car (really???!!!) then she is somehow going to have to get herself together enough to actually find your address, put a stamp on the envelope, get it into the mailbox... don't really see this happening. What a MESS this person is!

 

[finley1991]

If you get the money - turn in a show. Consider it a bonus!

I can't turn it in as a show because she owes me money herself for her order and the cash she took from the orders that paid with cash. She insists that I take the money from her debit card on a Tuesday (only). I told her I don't control when it comes out of her account... PC processes that and I'm not even confident that her card will go through anyway.

I guess I'll just wait to see if I even get the checks in the first place....

UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yuck:

 

[dannyzmom]

Good Lord! She just e-mailed me this TODAY!!!!

Colleen,

I will send you the checks this week. I cannot give people back their money because I really want the show to go on. I have the money in a envelope and have it on the mirror to find and send. I am at the library today because my internet is down at home. Please do not respond to this email as I will not get it.

I will find the envelope with the checks in my car and get them in the mail. I know I have your address in my text messages and will look it up and get them to you. Please do not cancel my show we really want the items.

Thank you,

Jennifer

I IMMEDIATELY texted her the SAME message I have said over and over that the show has been cancelled, I cannot process it at this point and to return to checks/money to her friends.

What else can I do here? Any suggestions?

PS: I'm REALLY irritated!!!!

Um, ok - so it it on your mirror or in your car???

 

[ktraceyk]

I think she wrote herself a note on her mirror to remember to find the envelop that she has in her car. She sounds like a great person to recruit! She could have lots of shows and make lots of money for herself!:devilI am joking of course)

 

[cheftiffany]

Hopefully if you get the checks from these people you will have their phone numbers and you can call them to let them know you won't be cashing their checks as you just received them and you can't turn in the show. You will probably think of better words to use of course.
people suck.

 

[finley1991]

I'm not holding my breath that I will get the checks!!!! But who knows... I didn't expect to hear from her after last week!

 

[baychef]

Good Lord this woman sounds like she knows she has painted herself into one tight corner. Hope this gets resolved soon. Take her infront of Judge Judy. I would love to see Judge Judy mince her up finer than onions in a Food Chopper!

 

[finley1991]

Good Lord this woman sounds like she knows she has painted herself into one tight corner. Hope this gets resolved soon. Take her infront of Judge Judy. I would love to see Judge Judy mince her up finer than onions in a Food Chopper!

Thanks for making me laugh Ann!!!!

 

[chefkathy]

Ann, that was funny!

 

[Sheila]

You girls are a freaking riot!

So what part of NO does she not understand? The N or the O ???

Sounds like your host only hears what she wants to hear!

You watch! She's going to send you all the stuff & then be dumbfounded when you try to explain to her why the guests can't still have all the HWC items that they ordered back in May!

 

[Sheila]

Okay, I just had to come back with one more thought. Assuming that the people just placed orders on catalog items & not HWC items ... how can she possibly think that you would be able to cash those checks that are now almost 8 weeks old, without talking to the guests first to see if they still want the orders? I wouldn't even want to think about the odds of those suckers bouncing after so long!

 

[finley1991]

Sheila you are exactly right! I'm pretty sure my bank won't take a check that old. I found a check in some paperwork that I hadn't deposited that was a month old and my bank (BofA) didn't want to take it. When I explained what happened they put a 10-day hold on the deposit!She's not going to send them and if she does, I'm going to mail them back to the guests and explain what happened. I'm not planning on outing her about spending the cash unless they get nasty with me or ask me directly. I'm planning to simply say that we were unable to process the show.

 

[Sheila]

I don't blame you girl. If you actually get the checks in the mail, I'd do a formatted letter to each check owner letting them know why you are returning their check! Here's how I'd vamp it just in case you need a suggestion.

Dear [guest],

I received your check in the mail today from [host]. I had previously explained to her that due to the delay, I was unable to submit her May Catalog Show, as Pampered Chef has a deadline and she had surpassed that date. Due to the age of your check, I felt it was most appropriate to return it to you and clarify if you are still interested in placing an order. If so, I'll be more than happy to assist you, but it would be as an outside order and would not benefit [host]. Please note that any HWC items that were ordered under [host]'s Catalog Show are no longer available through Pampered Chef, therefore I am unable to order those items. I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused and regret that I didn't have your contact information until today or I would have attempted to reach you at an earlier date when the HWC items were still available. If I may be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to call or e-mail, or feel free to shop online at [web address]. I would love to still help you with your Pampered Chef needs.

Sincerely, ...​

That ought to get them asking the host questions!

 

[finley1991]

Thanks Sheila! I love your wording! It's perfect!

She texted me this morning...

I will be sending the checks today. Please do not cancel the show the people want their stuff

I texted back saying the same thing I've said over and over and added that I will be returning the checks to the guests. And I put in BIG LETTERS that I cannot process the show at this point.

Interestingly enough, after I received her e-mail yesterday, I called my director and asked what I should do. She told me I should submit the show in good faith and go ahead with it. :bugeye: She said that canceling the show makes me and PC look bad to the guests. That kind of surprised me.

But honestly, I don't know how I can do the show... she's sending me the checks that were written to me... what about the cash orders and her order that she wants on her debit card? I feel that submitting the show is going to hold it up even longer and create more of a mess. Plus, I'm leaving for conference and can't do anything until I get back...

I can't believe what a mess this is!!!!!!!!! :yuck:

 

[Chef Kearns]

Just send in the orders for which you receive payment. If you don't have her host payment or the cash she took, don't submit their orders. Let her know you couldn't do it, but made sure the other people got their stuff. As an aside, I've never had a problem depositing an old check (unless I pointed it out to the teller). However, a courtesy call would be nice though not mandatory.

 

[ChefLisa]

Thanks Sheila! I love your wording! It's perfect!

She texted me this morning...

I will be sending the checks today. Please do not cancel the show the people want their stuff

I texted back saying the same thing I've said over and over and added that I will be returning the checks to the guests. And I put in BIG LETTERS that I cannot process the show at this point.

Interestingly enough, after I received her e-mail yesterday, I called my director and asked what I should do. She told me I should submit the show in good faith and go ahead with it. :bugeye: She said that canceling the show makes me and PC look bad to the guests. That kind of surprised me.

But honestly, I don't know how I can do the show... she's sending me the checks that were written to me... what about the cash orders and her order that she wants on her debit card? I feel that submitting the show is going to hold it up even longer and create more of a mess. Plus, I'm leaving for conference and can't do anything until I get back...

I can't believe what a mess this is!!!!!!!!! :yuck:

Offer the show to your Director.

 

[baychef]

My bank would accept the checks, but I would call everyone first because people don't always go back and check to see if a check was cashed. They just look at their balances and check back maybe a few weeks. Not everyone balances their account every week and or month. In fact fewer do because of online banking.

And I would not use her debit card. Cash or a hand delivered money order. I had someone stiff me for a significant amount of money saying she mailed the money order. And mysteriously, she didn't keep the receipt from it to prove it.

I had a lady do what this host is doing to you and what I did was... the people that I had cleared payment for, I added on the direct shipping and submitted their orders. The host was the worst (trust wise) and she wasn't going to screw me out of a party. I wanted her guests to get what they ordered and I knew I was never going to see her again so she was free to make up some lie about me (she would do it anyway!)

Glad you all liked the Judge Judy reference with the Food Chopper. I just love her because she has the "kahoonas" to tell people just what it is and catches them in lies before they know what she has done!

 

[ChefLisa]

Unless a check states differently, all checks are valid for six months after the date on the check. After that they are considered to be stale. However, I agree with checking with the customers before cashing them.

I still think you are correct for not wanting to send in the show. If the host is so insistant for you to use her debit card on a Tuesday, she can go to the bank and do a cash withdrawal on Tuesday.

 

[finley1991]

Just send in the orders for which you receive payment. If you don't have her host payment or the cash she took, don't submit their orders. Let her know you couldn't do it, but made sure the other people got their stuff.

As an aside, I've never had a problem depositing an old check (unless I pointed it out to the teller). However, a courtesy call would be nice though not mandatory.

There are so many problems with this show. There were 2 orders each over $200... people combined their orders to save on the shipping so I don't even know who ordered what.

This is such a nightmare and it's really starting to upset me!

The teller at BofA told me when I went to deposit a month-old check once that they will not take a check more than a month old, but made an exception for me that day.

Doesn't matter.. if I get the checks I'll be returning them anyway. I'm not dealing with this any more.

 

[baychef]

I think you are wise in doing this Colleen. I really can't imagine how upsetting it can be. Negativity like this seems to spill into areas of our life that we wish they would stay out of!!

 

[Sheila]

Sorry, I disagree with your director. I don't see how depositing checks up to 2 months after they were written with zero explanation to the guests is considered good business. In my opinion, that's bad business. And (as I said previously) I certainly wouldn't want to see the odds on how many of those would bounce.

I think you are right in not wanting to submit the show. Your host obviously thinks that she can do what she wants, when she wants with no recourse for her actions. She's not accustomed to paying the consequence and thinks that if she's pushy enough you'll cave in like everyone else in her life apparently does. Stand your ground girl! You've told her no on more than one occasion. I think writing the letter I suggested to each person who wrote a check will be more than sufficient to get your point across to her and hopefully it will make the guests realize that you were not the bad guy in the delay. Assuming there are no HWC items on the orders, if you were to just go ahead & submit the show & cash the checks without a word to all those guests, I think they would all be talking bad about YOU, not the host.

Sorry, but this brought back a hilarious story from my Police Department days. I was working in Duncanville (a suburb of Dallas) when a Mom from Houston called me. She was upset that her son was in jail, AGAIN, and wanted to know what to do. She caught me on the wrong night. I was in a cocky mood. I asked her in a professional voice if she was asking for my professional opinion or my personal opinion? After about a 5 second pause, she asked if she could have both. So I told her that my professional opinion was ... and started detailing out how she could pay cash to get him out tonight or pay a bondsman less money tonight to get him out, but it would cost more in the long run. Then I told her that my personal opinion is that if Mommy & Daddy come running every time that he gets into trouble that he's never going to learn to pay the consequence for his actions and that I thought she should just go back to bed & let him sit in jail all night & talk to the judge in the morning like a big boy, dealing with it himself. She sincerely thanked me for both of my opinions and hung up. We had microphones in the jail so that we could hear when there was a problem. It wasn't 10 minutes later when I heard her son screaming & cussing at her on the phone ... calling her all sorts of names. She had decided to go back to bed & told him to deal with it himself. He was NOT happy, but I think it was the best choice she could have made. Of course, I made sure to have that story relayed to the judge when he came through the next morning so that he wouldn't go easy on the guy. He definitely paid the consequence for his actions that night.

The point is that sometimes people have to hit rock bottom to open their eyes and make a change. I've been around Law Enforcement long enough to know that if people can get away with crap, why change? My theory is that what goes around, comes around. If people would just do the right thing the first time, they wouldn't have to worry about fate biting them in the butt later.

Okay, I'll get off my soap box now!

 

[baychef]

Great post, Sheila! And one good Mom to ask advice AND follow it!!

 

[Sheila]

Thanks Ann! I'm really shocked that she actually DID listen. Most of the parents that I used to deal with through the Police Department have the "not my child" attitude and find it hard to believe that their baby really did something wrong. They usually try to blame it on someone else, not the person who's actually responsible. In turn, they inadvertently enable their child to continue down the wrong path vs. forcing them to end the behavior. My poor 1 year old 2 year old have no chance ... I am more hard headed than they could ever think of being! LOL They get one warning & then they pay the consequence. Because they know that I'm serious they very rarely test me. Well, until MIL came out here for a month. We are currently in the deprogramming mode!

 

[baychef]

They must be the same parents that did this with their children all through school. Luckily, not all of them but far too many doubt the school before they hear the whole story.

 

[Sheila]

True Ann! I was a sub out here for a while when I was pregnant. It was funny how many parents were like that. I had a kid stand up and full on hit another kid in the face. Turned out that the problem child's mother was a teacher at that same school. She was NOT happy when she found out that I sent her "innocent baby" to the principal's office! Apparently the regular teacher tried to handle his outbursts on her own vs. letting the school know what a heathen he really was!

 

[baychef]

True Ann! I was a sub out here for a while when I was pregnant. It was funny how many parents were like that. I had a kid stand up and full on hit another kid in the face. Turned out that the problem child's mother was a teacher at that same school. She was NOT happy when she found out that I sent her "innocent baby" to the principal's office! Apparently the regular teacher tried to handle his outbursts on her own vs. letting the school know what a heathen he really was!

LOL!!! Very interesting story!! I grew up in a VERY small town. I mean K-12 under one roof and enrollment to this day is between 300 and 350. My grandmother worked in the school kitchen, my aunt was the school treasurer, my great aunt was the 5th grade teacher and my Mom eventually became a teacher's aid for kindergarten. If the town being small wasn't enough on it's own...we were busted before we even got on the bus!

And am a loser, I have not done any goodie bags but we are treating our downlines to a huge multi cluster dinner on Wednesday night. There are only 3 of us going and one has been several years before. One is new and we are ALL walking the stage for Director and 2 of us for Advanced Director.arty: And it really looks as if this Director will promote to AD before Christmas!arty: Then I will have 3 generations! WOW!

 

[finley1991]

Way to go Ann!!!! arty:

 

[Sheila]

That is awesome Ann! Congratulations!!!