Can One Order Be Counted as a Party?

[DMB75]

I have a lady that wants to order a large amount of Pampered Chef items for Christmas presents. She wanted to know if it could count as a party and she could get benifits because her order is so large. So my questions is how many different orders do you need for it to be counted as a show?

Thanks,
Donna

 

[chefann]

There's no minimum number of orders, as long as it's over $150.

 

[DMB75]

There's no minimum number of orders, as long as it's over $150.

Really? So one person can be counted as a party. Now, If I go to her house and we cook something but she has no guests, can it be counted as a cooking show? or do I need to give her the catalog show benifits? Or does it matter?

 

[chefann]

Officially, there needs to be cooking/food for it to be considered a cooking show.

 

[DMB75]

Thanks for your help Ann.

 

[kspry]

Someone in there has to be a guest for it to reach $150 in guest sales!

 

[dns2202]

I've done this before where I put the husband's name as the guest and the wife as the host.

 

[jrstephens]

I have done it too. I had a mother and her daughter that wanted the cook ware one time. One ordered it at full price and the other got it as half-price item.

 

[raebates]

I've done it once. The name of the guest doesn't have to be different. It just has to be a separate guest order.

 

[sfdavis918]

Yup, I just submitted one over the weekend. I used the same person's name. I ordered everything under her as a guest (the order was right at $150) and then put the host special under her name as the host. If she would have had more than $150 in orders I would have just put the $150 under her as a guest then the rest under her host order so she would get the discount.

Oh, and I always label them catalog shows.

 

[janetupnorth]

I had one legitimate one that was a cooking show...the host just wasn't into getting friends there and outside orders. It happens, RARELY...otherwise, if it is like this case, I too would label it as a catalog show. Otherwise, you are making food to call it a cooking show and I would say abusing the $15 product value that HO gives out.

 

[DMB75]

Thanks so much for all the info. You guys have really helped me out!

Donna

 

[DebbieSAChef]

I agree

I had one legitimate one that was a cooking show...the host just wasn't into getting friends there and outside orders. It happens, RARELY...otherwise, if it is like this case, I too would label it as a catalog show. Otherwise, you are making food to call it a cooking show and I would say abusing the $15 product value that HO gives out.

I did the same thing. Legitiimately, I made some food and brought it to her work for her friends to sample. I also did a few demos (apple wedger, mini whipper for hot chocolate, pizza cutter and mini serving spatula. These were friends who placed outside orders with her. They ordered more just because I brought lunch, and did a short demo with some of the products. I guess it helps for them to see them. But I just can't see myself bringing lots of products to shows with me.

Debbie

 

[ChefBeckyD]

I did the same thing. Legitiimately, I made some food and brought it to her work for her friends to sample. I also did a few demos (apple wedger, mini whipper for hot chocolate, pizza cutter and mini serving spatula. These were friends who placed outside orders with her. They ordered more just because I brought lunch, and did a short demo with some of the products. I guess it helps for them to see them. But I just can't see myself bringing lots of products to shows with me.

Debbie

I would definitely consider that a cooking show - there was food, there was a brief demo, people placed orders......I do that often at people's workplace.....and call it an Express Show.

 

[janetupnorth]

I would definitely consider that a cooking show - there was food, there was a brief demo, people placed orders......I do that often at people's workplace.....and call it an Express Show.

Yup, express shows are often done. It is different that taking one outside order and "making it" a cooking show.

 

[PamperedChefDebi]

Hey Donna! I usually make the spouse the host and the customer the guest. Often they have a past host discount and I want them to be able to take advantage of that. That may still work having guest and host the same though. I never tried that.

 

[raebates]

The host as guest could use her PHD with no problem.

 

[legacypc46]

Here's something to ask friends to consider over the holidays:
"Spend $150 in presents and/or gift certificates and then give yourself a gift as well (i.e the 60% off special and 10% off for a year). Sure beats fighting the crowds at macy's." (I don't recommend saying this at a show of course, but it's a way to generate orders you might not get otherwise....and some of them will invariably turn into pretty good catalog shows in themselves.

 

[mzwizard]

ok...can the Host BE the guest? and just pay the $4 shipping?

I have a gal that wants to order a bunch of SA products on sale. But she'd have to order $150 at teh 20% sale price, and THEN she'd get whatever her host goodies/order was, and the 15% discount and the 10% PHD?

So she can't get the 20% off the company is offering PLUS her discount etc, without ordering OVER the $150, right?

Does that make sense?

 

[BethCooks4U]

ok...can the Host BE the guest? and just pay the $4 shipping?

I have a gal that wants to order a bunch of SA products on sale. But she'd have to order $150 at teh 20% sale price, and THEN she'd get whatever her host goodies/order was, and the 15% discount and the 10% PHD?

So she can't get the 20% off the company is offering PLUS her discount etc, without ordering OVER the $150, right?

Does that make sense?

First of all as the host she gets the 15% discount but not the 10% PHD. Hosts get the higher discount and if they already have a PHD it cannot be used on her show as host.

A host can put an order on her own show in her own name (in fact if she booked it from her own show that is how she would get the past host booking benefit) and she can get her 10% PHD on THAT order.

I think, though, that HO would see red if that was the only order on the show. Has she noone that she would want to buy a gift for in THEIR name or ask to add an order to the show??

 

[jrstephens]

I do the host and guest as two different name.s Usually husband and wife, or use a child's name or their middle name.

 

[BethCooks4U]

I do the host and guest as two different name.s Usually husband and wife, or use a child's name or their middle name.

I think this is stretching things beyond okay. Using a child's name or their middle name is a bit too much like a lie to me. HO probably won't catch it unless she needs to exchange it and forgets the name she ordered it under but it's not honest to me.

I used to ask the host if they wanted their husband to order something to get them to the next level if they were close and didn't feel they had anyone else to ask - maybe something he would mostly use, or a gift for her... I didn't feel good about encouraging this but, like you all, I wanted to help her.

But at Nat. Conf. we were in a discussion with our Exec and I found out that it's perfectly fine for the HOST to place a "guest" order on her own show. She does have to pay the shipping on that order and she doesn't get her show discount on it but it does count toward guest sales.

So there is no need to "stretch the truth". As far as the question of only having one order and that being the host, I still believe that you would get a call from HO on that one.

 

[pamperedgirl3]

I have a question along these lines. I have some orders that I am turning in as a show. My husband wants to get the girls at his office some PC for Christmas gifts & wants to use his corporate cc. If he is the host of this show, will I get commission on his order? Or since he is at my same address, will it be considered that the consultant is the host? What about if he is just a guest placing an order? Thanks!

 

[jrstephens]

I have placed shows in my husband's name before. Just ship it c/o of you. You will get the same as you would any other show including the booking benefit in his name if you do him as host.

 

[pamperedgirl3]

I have placed shows in my husband's name before. Just ship it c/o of you. You will get the same as you would any other show including the booking benefit in his name if you do him as host.

Thanks! I was hoping it could count for him because the gifts are from him, not me!

 

[BethCooks4U]

I have placed shows in my husband's name before. Just ship it c/o of you. You will get the same as you would any other show including the booking benefit in his name if you do him as host.

Tsk. Tsk.

I know I should just keep my mouth shut but that is abusing the system. The consultant agreement you signed states that you do not get the booking benefit or commission on the host discount order if you or anyone living in your home is host.

Again, I will be chastized for "personally attacking" someone but we have talked about this over and over and it is especially meant for newbies to see that it is not ethical to do things this way. Pampered Chef is so generous to us and this kind of thing will only eventually make us lose some of the benefits we currently enjoy.

I am always amazed when sig lines quote scripture and the poster talks about how they beat the system by using a child's or husband's name, etc. or called a great order a show when it isn't anything more than a great order (ASK the customer if she wants to make it a show by gathering just a couple of orders and then putting a part of it on an order with her as a guest - if she says no then enter it as an individual order. Most will want to take advantage of the benefits and will make at least a small effort.)

HO reads the posts here randomly. If you are saying that you do this you are setting yourself up to be audited.

 

[jrstephens]

Again, I will be chastized for "personally attacking" someone

I am always amazed when sig lines quote scripture

It's kind of hard not to take that as personal. But I am not going to get into an arugment about it, so, this is all I will say. And she does say below that she has other orders she is turning in, not just her husbands.

 

[J.Corley]

Tsk. Tsk.
HO reads the posts here randomly. If you are saying that you do this you are setting yourself up to be audited.

I didn't know PC did audits? I've never heard of this, is it new? NOt that I am worried, but I just have never heard of anything in the like?

 

[chefmeg]

Tsk. Tsk.

I know I should just keep my mouth shut but that is abusing the system. The consultant agreement you signed states that you do not get the booking benefit or commission on the host discount order if you or anyone living in your home is host.

Again, I will be chastized for "personally attacking" someone but we have talked about this over and over and it is especially meant for newbies to see that it is not ethical to do things this way. Pampered Chef is so generous to us and this kind of thing will only eventually make us lose some of the benefits we currently enjoy.

I am always amazed when sig lines quote scripture and the poster talks about how they beat the system by using a child's or husband's name, etc. or called a great order a show when it isn't anything more than a great order (ASK the customer if she wants to make it a show by gathering just a couple of orders and then putting a part of it on an order with her as a guest - if she says no then enter it as an individual order. Most will want to take advantage of the benefits and will make at least a small effort.)

HO reads the posts here randomly. If you are saying that you do this you are setting yourself up to be audited.

Again, Beth, you are the voice of reason...and I am with you all the way!

Everyone, just please understand that when you make choices to not do things according to policy, it is wrong! And if you have scripture in your signature, you are very aware of what is right and wrong, so "bending" the rules should be against what we believe.

New consultants come on this forum to ask questions and if you steer them in the wrong direction, it can come back to haunt them! I know that none of us want that, so be aware of what you are typing, regardless of the possible audit!

If you stop to think before you type, you may realize that you don't have the answer, just an opinion, and that Home Office does-tell folks to look in their business guide or call HO.

 

[Shawnna]

I have always been told by every consultant I know that if there are 150 in orders then you can count it as a show...no matter if it is 1 order or 15. I have also been told that it is okay if person orders 150 in product to also put her in as the host and she could get the host benefit. As far as ordering in your spouses name to be able to get commission on an order I would say no, but technically you would be getting the same benefit if you order it as a personal order...because your commission is the same as your consultant discount. The only difference is incentive points are based on sales. A 150 order as a catalog show gets the host no free product...just the opportunity to purchase the host special and a PHD.