Cake Makers Unite! (I Need Some Advice)

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around participants sharing their experiences and challenges related to making a multi-layered cake, specifically a princess castle cake. The discussion includes questions about stability techniques, frosting methods, and personal anecdotes about cake-making successes and mishaps.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, inquires about using skewers versus drinking straws for cake stability, noting concerns about a large, multi-layered cake potentially toppling.
  • Another participant shares their experience using drinking straws successfully for stability in a similar cake, mentioning the use of cones for decoration.
  • Some participants suggest that skewers may be more durable than straws, with one noting that skewers can be found at a dollar store.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether to frost each layer separately or assemble the cake first and then frost it.
  • Another participant recounts a frustrating experience with a cake that wouldn't come out of the pan, leading to multiple trips to the store for supplies, and reflects on the challenges of altering a cake recipe.
  • Several users express encouragement and excitement about the cake-making process, with some asking for pictures of the finished cake.
  • One participant mentions a past experience making a round castle cake and offers a tip about using hot water to smooth frosting.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the best method for ensuring cake stability, with some participants favoring skewers and others preferring straws. There is no clear consensus on the frosting method, as opinions vary on whether to frost layers individually or after assembly.

Contextual Notes

Participants share a range of personal experiences, from successful cake-making to challenges faced during the process. The discussion reflects a community of cake enthusiasts who are willing to share both triumphs and frustrations.

Who May Find This Useful

This thread may be useful for those within the consultant community who are interested in cake decorating techniques and looking for shared experiences related to multi-layered cakes.

Kitchen Diva
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Hi- after reading the entire baking thread it seemed that this board is FULL of semi-professional cake decorators, so I have a question.

I am making this cake for my niece http://jas.familyfun.go.com/recipefinder/display?id=50200

The directions are vague, but I'm gifted with common sense so I think I'll do just fine- here is my question.

Do I use skewers to give my cake some stability, or do you think wider drinking straws would work a little better? I've read from the reviews that the cake starts to topple, or slide off to one side because it is 6 or 7 layers and quite large.

I'm scaling it down to 9x6 because I don't have even one 8x8 or 9x9 square pan. So I'm making two 9x13's and cutting them in half to get my three layers, and then just two layers for the top part... I don't want any of the layers to fall off.

Suggestions? This is the first time I've made anything fancy like this with cake.

Oh- PS- should I frost each layer separately and THEN assemble, or just assemble like a normal layered cake?
 
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For my DD birthday I made this cake but I used drinking straws (the Mcdonald kind) and they didn't collapse. Plus I used the regular cones and then added the sugar cones to make the turrets (sp).
 
I think the skewers would work best (more durable) the straws could bend and cause the cake to topple. You can get the skewers at the dollar store.

If you want frosting in between layers (i almost typed lawyers! LOL) then yes, i would say frost in between and then frost the sides once all layers are assembled.

I have never made a cake that involved, but that is just my recommendation!

Make sure you post a pic when you are done!! Can't wait to see!
 
Very cute! That looks pretty stable so I'd think that sturdy straws (not the cheap ones) or skewers would work fine.
 
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Thanks, guys! I will post a picture when I'm done. I'm feeling a bit under the weather today, so I just finished making the cakes, they are cooling, and I'll assemble the thing tonight after dinner. BTW, I was wrong it is supposed to be EIGHT layers! I'm only doing 6... I will make an additional 9x13 cake just in case!

I have 4 tubs of frosting, 4 tubes of pink and purple frosting, 2 each in gel and regular frosting, 2 cans of pink and purple frosting with the star tips- and then I have a small piping bag with some assorted tips- I have sprinkles, large pastel candies, almost like those Necco Candy Wafers, only smaller and skinnier... and of course my creativity... Let's hope that's at it's best tonight! LOL

I might do straws with skewers inside to be safe! Thanks for all the help and advice, guys!!!
 
I have no ideas, just had to say I love the cake! Post your pics when you're done; I'd love to make this for my dd's b-day:thumbup:
 
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AAAarrrrrrgggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :grumpy: :grumpy: :mad:

Okay, so in order to "save" a little money I decided to alter that princess castle cake a little, and use 3 9x13 cake pans, and just cut and shave my pieces to perfection and then frost them- no problem, right?

WRONG!!! The cakes would NOT come out of the pan, I cut my palm with the serrated bread knife, I used an ENTIRE tub of frosting on ONE measly little 8x8 inch layer and all you see is little pink cake pieces in the frosting....GRRRRRRRRRRR

What I think happened is when I added the strawberry flavoring (because heaven forbid they make a strawberry/pink boxed cake mix- I know they make them, they just don't sell them at my grocery stores) So I bought some flavoring that was syrupy, and I needed to use almost the entire bottle just to flavor those cakes I made.

So I send DH to the store for another cake mix- he's on his way home and I call and tell him I need 2 more tubs of frosting- he goes back...he's home IN the driveway and I tell him I need him to go back and get me 2 more cake mixes because the other cake wouldn't come out of the pan, and I destroyed it trying to get it to come out- he goes BACK to the store, and I call him as he's unlocking his car and tell him I need eggs, and would he be so kind as to buy me some 8x8 inch square pans so I can do this the way it was supposed to be done.

Thankfully he's chuckling at me because I owe him BIG after all that running around he did tonight...BTW- the next time I try to save money, I'm not going to- if I would have just bought the pans I needed, and didn't worry about making the cake pink and strawberry flavored, this never would have happened....

I'll be up late, so I'll post pics tomorrow night sometime after the party. I just had to vent-

:cry: :cry: :cry:
 
Hugs! I'm sure it will be beautiful and you will be the Best Aunt Ever!
 
THAT CAKE is precious!!!!!!!!
 
I made a castle cake one time, but I believe it was round. Best of luck to you!!
 
I made one for my DD's b-day last year, but it was round. That one is cute, I hope it turns out all-right for you. I don't know if you know the trick of dipping your spreader in hot water to smooth the icing on. You just have to make sure you aren't getting too much water on the cake, but it helps with the frosting sometimes. Hope that helps some!!
 
Kitchen Diva said:
:mad: :grumpy: :grumpy: :mad:

Okay, so in order to "save" a little money I decided to alter that princess castle cake a little, and use 3 9x13 cake pans, and just cut and shave my pieces to perfection and then frost them- no problem, right?

WRONG!!! The cakes would NOT come out of the pan, I cut my palm with the serrated bread knife, I used an ENTIRE tub of frosting on ONE measly little 8x8 inch layer and all you see is little pink cake pieces in the frosting....GRRRRRRRRRRR

What I think happened is when I added the strawberry flavoring (because heaven forbid they make a strawberry/pink boxed cake mix- I know they make them, they just don't sell them at my grocery stores) So I bought some flavoring that was syrupy, and I needed to use almost the entire bottle just to flavor those cakes I made.

So I send DH to the store for another cake mix- he's on his way home and I call and tell him I need 2 more tubs of frosting- he goes back...he's home IN the driveway and I tell him I need him to go back and get me 2 more cake mixes because the other cake wouldn't come out of the pan, and I destroyed it trying to get it to come out- he goes BACK to the store, and I call him as he's unlocking his car and tell him I need eggs, and would he be so kind as to buy me some 8x8 inch square pans so I can do this the way it was supposed to be done.

Thankfully he's chuckling at me because I owe him BIG after all that running around he did tonight...BTW- the next time I try to save money, I'm not going to- if I would have just bought the pans I needed, and didn't worry about making the cake pink and strawberry flavored, this never would have happened....

I'll be up late, so I'll post pics tomorrow night sometime after the party. I just had to vent-

:cry: :cry: :cry:
Oh Kacey! Glad your DH saw the humor in all of his running around!!
Hope your cake turns out beautifully!!
:)
Kelly
 
Tomorrow I am making the Sand castle Cake off the latest cover of Family Fun....................
We shall see.....
 
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Hmmm- not quite what I was expectingOkay, so the cake turned out alright. Thankfully no one over the age of 9 will be eating it, so I'm fine with the fact that I forgot to poke holes in the turrets (sp?) for the flags I was supposed to make.

I will get a picture of it tomorrow, but I must say, I'm not too proud of it. I should NOT have used tubs of frosting, nor should I have gone with candy I knew my niece would like. She doesn't really care for the candies they used in the original cake...like I said- for my first attempt at a free form cake I did alright, but I would never enter it into a contest.

I think I'll run to the local bakery tomorrow and pick up an additional cake. This one is not big enough to feed 22 people like I thought it would.

Thanks for the advice- next time I'm going to buy a Wilton pan and do like you guys do each year for a cake!
 
OH you poor thing! Your DH deserves a medal, mine would have had a heart attact after the 3rd call to go back to the store!!

I'm sure the kids will LOVE the cake!
 
Kacey, I am sure you are your own worst critic - post the picture and let us have a crack at it! LOL

I'm sure you are exhausted, I always underestimate how long it takes to do the cakes. I bet you had fun doing it and your neice will love it and love you all the more for doing this special treat for her.
 
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Kacey if I can find a picture of dd cake I'll post and you'll laugh. I just knew I could do an amazing cake. I thought it looked horrible. But she loved it and when we saw a princess cake in the store she bragged about how cake was better. She'll love it because you made it.
 
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Kacey, next time (if there is a next time) you could just dye the cake mix (if dear neice doesnt care about the strawberry taste).

Also, another thought, and I know funds are tight, but Wilton Or Williams Sonoma makes actually a "castle" mold. I saw it the other day. You could probably find one on Ebay.

I am sure it is fine and DN will LOVE IT because Aunt Kacey made it with LOVE!
 
I have that castle pan but during frosting I think it would lose its castle theme I always have to glaze it and sprinkle graham cracker crumbs on it
 
Oh man, what a good hubby you have to go back to the store! Sorry you had difficulties.
 
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I'll go ahead and post a picture, but in all honesty, I'm sort of embarassed...I can cook like there's no tomorrow 9except meatloaf and burgers) and I can bake fancy desserts, but I need some practice with the cake decorating. :)
 
Kitchen Diva said:
:mad: :grumpy: :grumpy: :mad:

Okay, so in order to "save" a little money I decided to alter that princess castle cake a little, and use 3 9x13 cake pans, and just cut and shave my pieces to perfection and then frost them- no problem, right?

WRONG!!! The cakes would NOT come out of the pan, I cut my palm with the serrated bread knife, I used an ENTIRE tub of frosting on ONE measly little 8x8 inch layer and all you see is little pink cake pieces in the frosting....GRRRRRRRRRRR
What I think happened is when I added the strawberry flavoring (because heaven forbid they make a strawberry/pink boxed cake mix- I know they make them, they just don't sell them at my grocery stores) So I bought some flavoring that was syrupy, and I needed to use almost the entire bottle just to flavor those cakes I made.

So I send DH to the store for another cake mix- he's on his way home and I call and tell him I need 2 more tubs of frosting- he goes back...he's home IN the driveway and I tell him I need him to go back and get me 2 more cake mixes because the other cake wouldn't come out of the pan, and I destroyed it trying to get it to come out- he goes BACK to the store, and I call him as he's unlocking his car and tell him I need eggs, and would he be so kind as to buy me some 8x8 inch square pans so I can do this the way it was supposed to be done.

Thankfully he's chuckling at me because I owe him BIG after all that running around he did tonight...BTW- the next time I try to save money, I'm not going to- if I would have just bought the pans I needed, and didn't worry about making the cake pink and strawberry flavored, this never would have happened....

I'll be up late, so I'll post pics tomorrow night sometime after the party. I just had to vent-

:cry: :cry: :cry:


next time do a "crumb layer" , in most recipes "if" they even bother to tell you to do one they don't tell you to pop it in the fridge for a few minutes so the crumb layer hardens.I sometimes even do it the day before.

This makes frosting your final layer so easy & without crumbs :)
 
reba515 said:
next time do a "crumb layer" , in most recipes "if" they even bother to tell you to do one they don't tell you to pop it in the fridge for a few minutes so the crumb layer hardens.I sometimes even do it the day before.

This makes frosting your final layer so easy & without crumbs :)
I also take a pastry brush and brush-off as many crumbs as possible.

You were using canned frosting - right? Next time empty the cans into a bowl and whip them up a little with your electric mixer. That should make them easier to spread.
 
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Well, here is the cake- please be gentle...it's my first time
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Here is the cake I made- remember to be gentle...it was my first attempt at decorating a cake like this. I don't like it all that much and thought I'd be able to do a better job, but when you buy cheap tools, what do you expect?

:)
 
I think it is wonderful!!! I don't see a thing wrong with it, you are being your own worst critic!!! It's colorful, fun and covered in candy, that's every kids dream cake! I really believe that what really matters is the fact that you actually took the time to bake and decorate it instead of buying it. I make all my kids cakes and they are far from being professional, but I make the effort and spend my time doing them and my kids love them. Every one I do looks better than the last and I've never used a mold, so one day I will get it down to an art!
But, anyway I say job WELL DONE!!!!:D
 
Your cake is AWESOME!!!!!!
 
I think the cake turned out beautiful!! I think you should give yourself a break:-)
 
Kacey! You should be proud!! It looks amazing! You are being to harsh on yourself! (come on, don't you realize how many professionals it probably took to make the one on the website?)

AMAZING! Hope DN loved her cake!
 
I think you did an awsome job. Maybe I will do that cake for my DD's 2nd birthday.
 
Kacey...you are being way too critical of yourself! What did your neice have to say? I'll bet she was IN LOVE with her cake! (and loved YOU for making it for her!!)

You did a super job!!
:)
Kelly
 

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