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Sheila said:Somebody posted the price changes & discontinued items. Now there's a big uproar about how the ones who "chose not to go" should just be patient & wait until corporate announces it after the last Spring Launch.
I really dislike the "chose not to go" statements. It's not always that easy for some of us to drop everything & fork over the money that would be required to do what we would really love to do.
When I hit ED level, maybe I'll be in a better position to afford those extra luxuries on the opposite side of the world!!!
pamperedlinda said:Thanks Beth - I just went over there and read it - I don't even know who those people are. It seems to me it's the newbees who always make the meanest, most selfish comments. I find I go to CS less and less and haven't gotten any useful info from there in a long time, mostly gossip.
pamperedlinda said:Thanks Beth - I just went over there and read it - I don't even know who those people are. It seems to me it's the newbees who always make the meanest, most selfish comments. I find I go to CS less and less and haven't gotten any useful info from there in a long time, mostly gossip.
bethcooks4u said:Yeah, I totally agree.
Chefbeckyd said:When people who have been consultants for all of two weeks start spouting off and thinking they know it all, and are attacking my Girls...I had to chime in just a bit.
bethcooks4u said:I don't understand why people think that just because someone knows something they should know it too. People need to get over it.
pamperedlinda said:...and I guess next week when we all start getting our SAT and Director packs the rants about the ebay postings will start....joy :sick:
pamperedlinda said:...and I guess next week when we all start getting our SAT and Director packs the rants about the ebay postings will start....joy :sick:
Chefbeckyd said:Okay, probably not good, but I had to find the thread and add my two cents.
When people who have been consultants for all of two weeks start spouting off and thinking they know it all, and are attacking my Girls...I had to chime in just a bit.
I'm probably going to get blasted now on the thread. Oh well.
beckyjsmith said:now I have to know.. what is the thread?
bethcooks4u said:It almost reads like you are saying my post is the one that is in bad form. Those very people we are talking to are sure to see it as such. ...sometimes I wonder if it's worth the effort to try to explain the whys. Oh well.
...and Becky I know you were being supportive of my statement - just saying how some will probably read it.
beckyjsmith said:Ok well Beth just said it so well all I could do was agree with her. But wow. Turds.
pamperedlinda said:lol...you said 'turds'!
Chefbeckyd said:Oh, geez, does it read like that to you? I totally meant it to support what you were saying.
Seriously - the ones who were making the biggest stink - almost all of their posts have to do with wanting someone to tell them stuff ahead of time, or complaining about something else. If that's all you have to contribute, then it's better to remain a lurker.
bethcooks4u said:Whether it's "choose not to go" or "can't go" no one is entitled to know the information until it is posted on CC. HO asks us NOT to share until all SL's have happened so all participants have had the opportunity to be equally excited and surprised. What's wrong with that?
I have no problem with you (Sheila) getting the info to share over in Japan from your fellow directors - HO should provide it to overseas consultants IMHO - and I personally did ask my director friends if they would share as I HAD paid to go but was in the hospital during my launch. If they had chosen not to share I would not have been upset with them. I could have waited those few more days - it just gave me something else to think about. I am anxious and excited to really see it all and hate that I missed all the excitement in Charlotte.
I don't understand why people think that just because someone knows something they should know it too. People need to get over it.
Linda - I don't know if you ever went back to that thread you posted on on CS but I defended you.
Sheila said:There's absolutely nothing wrong with the ones who have not yet attended SL making it until their date without a spoiler. I definitely want them to still be surprised! But if people are willing to share in PM or e-mail, there are lots of people (not just overseas consultants) who couldn't attend for whatever reason that would love to have the info. You ended up not being able to attend, and I feel confident that you were probably not the only one out there who wanted to go & couldn't. You were lucky that you had someone willing to share the info & not tell you to wait. I'm sure on or off medication you would have had your feelings hurt if your upline had told you to "put on your big girl panties" and wait because you were "not entitled" to the info. Although it's true that other's don't HAVE to share, it's nice when they are polite enough to do so. We begged our sales manager this year to get permission to give us something to do our own SL, but it fell on deaf ears. CS & DCS people made it possible for us to have SL in Japan 2 years in a row and for that, I am VERY grateful.
There are always people who are in the hospital, recovering from surgery/c-section, too far along in their pregnancy to travel, attending a funeral of a loved one, etc who just can't go. Then you have the ones who just started their business & financially can't afford to go, has a controlling spouse who won't let them go, has a child who just got arrested and has to be watched like a hawk, etc. I wouldn't want to be the person rubbing salt in their wound and saying that they shouldn't get the info because they didn't attend and are "not entitled" to have the info. I see that as being mean. When others are posting threads about how amazing it was & how everyone will love the new products when they see them, it makes the ones who couldn't go wish they could have gone that much more.
Sheila said:There's absolutely nothing wrong with the ones who have not yet attended SL making it until their date without a spoiler. I definitely want them to still be surprised! But if people are willing to share in PM or e-mail, there are lots of people (not just overseas consultants) who couldn't attend for whatever reason that would love to have the info. You ended up not being able to attend, and I feel confident that you were probably not the only one out there who wanted to go & couldn't. You were lucky that you had someone willing to share the info & not tell you to wait. I'm sure on or off medication you would have had your feelings hurt if your upline had told you to "put on your big girl panties" and wait because you were "not entitled" to the info. Although it's true that other's don't HAVE to share, it's nice when they are polite enough to do so. We begged our sales manager this year to get permission to give us something to do our own SL, but it fell on deaf ears. CS & DCS people made it possible for us to have SL in Japan 2 years in a row and for that, I am VERY grateful.
There are always people who are in the hospital, recovering from surgery/c-section, too far along in their pregnancy to travel, attending a funeral of a loved one, etc who just can't go. Then you have the ones who just started their business & financially can't afford to go, has a controlling spouse who won't let them go, has a child who just got arrested and has to be watched like a hawk, etc. I wouldn't want to be the person rubbing salt in their wound and saying that they shouldn't get the info because they didn't attend and are "not entitled" to have the info. I see that as being mean. When others are posting threads about how amazing it was & how everyone will love the new products when they see them, it makes the ones who couldn't go wish they could have gone that much more.
Sheila said:Beth, you just came off as being a bit aggressive over on CS.
cookingwithlove said:So, what do you thing about the price of cotton in Iran? It is so high you can't even get a decent turban anymore!
This is what I always say when the discuss gets heated and is not going anywhere. Just one more day and it will be all over.
It is common for people to experience a shift in mood and behavior during seasonal changes due to a variety of factors such as weather, daylight hours, and stress levels. This can lead to an increase in negativity and criticism towards others.
One way to avoid getting caught up in negative comments is to focus on the positive aspects of the seasonal change and try to maintain a positive attitude. It can also be helpful to distance yourself from those who consistently make negative comments.
Some individuals may feel the need to assert their superiority or show off their knowledge during seasonal changes as a way to boost their own self-esteem. This behavior can also stem from insecurities and a desire to fit in with a certain group.
If you realize that you are being overly critical or negative during seasonal changes, take a step back and reflect on the reasons behind your behavior. It can also be helpful to practice empathy and try to see things from others' perspectives.
One way to create a more positive environment during seasonal changes is to actively promote kindness and understanding towards others. This can include avoiding negative gossip and offering support and encouragement to those who may be struggling with the changes.