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The thread discusses recent changes to the availability of the Deep Covered Baker, including its transition to a host-only item and the implications for consultants. Participants express their disappointment and frustration regarding these changes and share their personal experiences and concerns about the impact on their sales and demonstrations.
Views differ significantly among participants, with some expressing strong frustration and others attempting to find ways to adapt to the changes. No clear consensus emerges regarding the best way to handle the situation.
Participants are primarily consultants discussing the implications of product availability changes on their business practices and customer interactions.
Consultants looking for insights on how peers are reacting to product availability changes and managing their sales strategies may find this discussion relevant.
ChefetteDuJour said:Duh --- Can someone explain what the "C&S intro" is? I'm assuming it's not cream & sugar .. or Cher & Sonny ... or --!!??
ChefCKHall said:Harriet - you put my thoughts into words and you win my daily hero award!
mailgirl1978 said:What Im sick of is people telling us to put our big girl panties on and get over it! Is it so terribly wrong to voice our concerns and to be upset by this? I know it's not the only thing we sell and I know this is not going to do us in.... but good grief I love my deep covered baker and I love selling my deep covered baker.....
I'm not at a show in front of customers, I'm connecting with fellow PC'ers and shouldn't we be able to talk about it without someone telling us to get over it??? :l
blavin said:Fairly new to PC (< 4 months), but wanted to know if there were any official channels for communicating the displeasure of this decision. Is the best way to e-mail HO? The intent here is not to complain for the sake of complaining. The intent is to inform HO to the impact the DCB has on our sales and the quality of our shows. Singularly this will not have much meaning, but if we could organize a campaign to "Bring back the DCB" we might be able to influence the long term plan (which I hope is to bring it back). I am fine with taking a step back, and getting it right, if that is in fact what is happening. I think some insight into the long term plans would make it easier for everyone to plan out their own long term strategies.
blavin said:Fairly new to PC (< 4 months), but wanted to know if there were any official channels for communicating the displeasure of this decision. Is the best way to e-mail HO? The intent here is not to complain for the sake of complaining. The intent is to inform HO to the impact the DCB has on our sales and the quality of our shows. Singularly this will not have much meaning, but if we could organize a campaign to "Bring back the DCB" we might be able to influence the long term plan (which I hope is to bring it back). I am fine with taking a step back, and getting it right, if that is in fact what is happening. I think some insight into the long term plans would make it easier for everyone to plan out their own long term strategies.
BethCooks4U said:I don't think that's really what's being said here. People are coming on here and running around in circles saying the sky is falling. We are trying to put a positive spin on this. Of course people need to be able to vent but if we focus too much on the negative side of this it will reflect on our shows.
If you read the email closely and listen to what our uplines are saying you will see that they ARE working to bring it back. They did the stop sell on the white dcb so that they could focus on the more popular cranberry dcb and made it host only so that they could build up the supply so that they could handle the demand better. They COULD have put them both on stop sell but they knew that so many of us focus our shows on that product and that customers see the value in it. They wanted there to be a way people could still get it and this was the best option. I would be surprised if they weren't both back available to everyone by fall.
mailgirl1978 said:If you read back on some previous comments it is EXACTLY what some have been saying...one in particular I read that said for us "to put on our big girl panties and get over it". Just because I'm upset about it doesn't mean I think the sky is falling...it's just a shame that we can't voice this without someone telling us to get over it. Being positive is great and I appreciate that some are trying to get us to look at the bright side of things, however, it just happened! Can you let some of discuss our grief over this without the positive being shoved down our throats...it's quite ok for some of us to be angry and upset about this if that's what we choose to do.
Also, that second quote was not mine but you pasted it as it came from me.
Hi!!mailgirl1978 said:If you read back on some previous comments it is EXACTLY what some have been saying...one in particular I read that said for us "to put on our big girl panties and get over it". Just because I'm upset about it doesn't mean I think the sky is falling...it's just a shame that we can't voice this without someone telling us to get over it. Being positive is great and I appreciate that some are trying to get us to look at the bright side of things, however, it just happened! Can you let some of discuss our grief over this without the positive being shoved down our throats...it's quite ok for some of us to be angry and upset about this if that's what we choose to do.Also, that second quote was not mine but you pasted it as it came from me.
BethCooks4U said:I understand that people are upset and I agree that we all need time to process but the longer we complain the lower the spiral goes. I saw that posting too about "big girl panties". Personally I hate that phrase. It's like saying "get over it".
Carolyn is absolutely correct. Yes we've all been caught off-guard. That was yesterday. Its a small loss compared to other portions of our lives (and reality). I mourned for an hour. I slowly got over it (posting here on CS helped.)Light a candle, have some ice cream, look at your children, grandchildren, life partners, friends and the people you love. They're much more important to you than a Deep Covered Baker.dannyzmom said:Stop dwelling on the negative (unless of course you want your customers to dwell on the negative - that's up to you) and focus on the POSITIVE...if you focus on the positives, your customers will, too...and it'll show in your sales and recruiting.
Honey, you've been called much stronger names than that. Many, over the years, have stuck!Ddannyzmom said:It's okay - you can call me a witch, unsympathetic, nasty, etc.
blavin said:Fairly new to PC (< 4 months), but wanted to know if there were any official channels for communicating the displeasure of this decision. Is the best way to e-mail HO? The intent here is not to complain for the sake of complaining. The intent is to inform HO to the impact the DCB has on our sales and the quality of our shows. Singularly this will not have much meaning, but if we could organize a campaign to "Bring back the DCB" we might be able to influence the long term plan (which I hope is to bring it back). I am fine with taking a step back, and getting it right, if that is in fact what is happening. I think some insight into the long term plans would make it easier for everyone to plan out their own long term strategies.
RMDave said:Carolyn is absolutely correct. Yes we've all been caught off-guard. That was yesterday. Its a small loss compared to other portions of our lives (and reality). I mourned for an hour. I slowly got over it (posting here on CS helped.)
Light a candle, have some ice cream, look at your children, grandchildren, life partners, friends and the people you love. They're much more important to you than a Deep Covered Baker.
Honey, you've been called much stronger names than that. Many, over the years, have stuck!
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chefsteph07 said:Carolyn, I completely agree with you.
I had my tantrum for a while, vented, and now facing the facts that nothing is going to change reality and what "is" is...so now we all have to focus on the positive, I've always demoed the DCB as a booking tool, it's not the end all be all in the catalog, so just decide how you are going to present the facts in the most positive way possible, even if you aren't feeling positive about it at the time. This too shall pass and we will all "get over it" and move on! LOL
And to anyone else who is reading, Carolyn is an Advanced Director, so I think she knows what she's talking about!![]()