How can a strainer be used as a sifter?

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Discussion Overview

The thread explores the use of a strainer as a sifter, with participants sharing their personal experiences and stories related to sifting flour. Various methods and opinions on the necessity of sifting flour in modern baking are also discussed.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses uncertainty about how a strainer can function as a sifter and seeks clarification.
  • Another participant shares their experience using a strainer as a flour sifter, noting that it works well for them, as it did for their mother.
  • Several users mention humorous anecdotes related to sifting, including a story about a recipe that required excessive sifting of sugar.
  • Some participants state that they no longer sift flour, with one noting that most modern flour does not require sifting.
  • One participant discusses alternative methods for aerating flour, such as whisking, and emphasizes the importance of accurate measurement in baking.
  • Another participant references Alton Brown's approach to measuring flour by weight rather than volume, suggesting that sifting may not be necessary for everyone.
  • Some participants highlight the differences in flour measurement methods and the impact on baking results.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the necessity of sifting flour, with some participants advocating for it while others do not find it necessary in their baking practices.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a range of personal baking experiences and preferences, with participants sharing insights based on their individual practices rather than established guidelines.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants and community members interested in baking techniques and the use of kitchen tools may find the shared experiences and insights relevant.

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I have never made a recipe that called for sifted flour :eek: ....so obviously, I know very little about sifters. One of my customers just placed an order & said that she needed a flour sifter & wondered if PC had one. I see that the Strainer can also be used as a sifter, but how does it work? The sifters that I have seen before all have a handle that you turn or pump the flour through, so I'm curious about the Strainer and how it can double as a sifter. Sorry if this is a silly question, but I don't want to suggest a product that won't meet her needs. I know my fellow cheffers can help! :D
 
I use the strainer as my flour sifter....that is how my mom used to do it, so that is how I do it, and it works very well!I have a really funny story about sifting things, I have to share - sorry for the hi-jack!My cousin's class was having a party...so each student had to make a different recipe and bring in the cookies. Well my aunt assigned those recipes...and they got in to the party and one mother came over to tell her how difficult hers was! My aunt questioned it...not quite sure what was so hard. Well, the recipe called for 10X sugar, so she sifted something like a lb of sugar 10 times...hehehhe too funny!....and before we had the strainer in our line, I didn't have anything...so I have used the flour & sugar shaker to sift flour = not fun, that thing is so small, but worked in a bind!
 
jenniferknapp said:
I use the strainer as my flour sifter....that is how my mom used to do it, so that is how I do it, and it works very well!


I have a really funny story about sifting things, I have to share - sorry for the hi-jack!

My cousin's class was having a party...so each student had to make a different recipe and bring in the cookies. Well my aunt assigned those recipes...and they got in to the party and one mother came over to tell her how difficult hers was! My aunt questioned it...not quite sure what was so hard. Well, the recipe called for 10X sugar, so she sifted something like a lb of sugar 10 times...hehehhe too funny!

....and before we had the strainer in our line, I didn't have anything...so I have used the flour & sugar shaker to sift flour = not fun, that thing is so small, but worked in a bind!
Cute story! To clarify, I believe she is referring to the Chef's Tool Strainer (and that was what I was going to suggest too!).
 
I thought I read somewhere that flour nowadays doesn't really need to be sifted. Does it still? I never sift flour anymore. Although, come to think of it, I don't bake much anymore either!
 
pamperedgirl3 said:
I thought I read somewhere that flour nowadays doesn't really need to be sifted. Does it still? I never sift flour anymore. Although, come to think of it, I don't bake much anymore either!
Yeah, most flour doesn't need to be sifted (make sure it is all purpose as unbleached, cake, etc may need to be sifted).
 
you can also whisk it to get the air back in before measuring
 
The new one that is the strainer/sifter, you just put the flour in it, then gently hit it against the palm of your free hand. The force sifts the flour through the metal screening.
 
Why do you need to sift flour? I have always wondered that..?
 
To get air into it making it lighter.

Think of the tip for the cookie press, if the flour is sifted and weighed, or scooped and weighed, you get two different weights of flour. Depending on the recipe, this could be crucial to the end results.

--Jenny L
 
huh, ok thanks!
 
Sifting flour makes the measurement more accurate. This is critical in baking, as your measure of flour can vary by up to 40% between scooping unsifted flour, and spooning sifted flour into the measuring cup.
 
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Oh wow, great information! I feel better knowing I'm not the only one who didn't understand the purpose of sifting flour! :D LOL
 
So Ann,
You basically said the same thing I did. Why does yours sound so much more elegant and clear?

--Jenny L
 
I don't sift my flour anymore. (Neither does Martha Stewart...he he he!!)

I kind of "stir it up" in the flour canister (since it has probably settled in there) and then spoon it lightly into my measuring cup. Do NOT scoop the entire measuring cup down into the flour...that will PACK the cup and you will be measuring way too much! Then, use the back of a knife to level it off.

One last step, "whisk" all of your dry ingredients together (flour, white sugar, salt, baking powder/soda, etc.) and this will further aireate (sp?) the flour and fully mix in the salt and other "small" amounts of items!
 
The gospel according to Alton Brown is that flour (and most ingredients) should be measured by weight rather than volume for this very reason. As for sifting, he has said on his show and written in his book that he doesn't use sifters -- he just takes his flour for a spin in the food processor to aerate it.
 
ParishKitchen said:
The gospel according to Alton Brown is that flour (and most ingredients) should be measured by weight rather than volume for this very reason. As for sifting, he has said on his show and written in his book that he doesn't use sifters -- he just takes his flour for a spin in the food processor to aerate it.
I Love AB!

Most people don't use a scale to measure their ingredients, though. And most recipes (except his) aren't even written that way. So sifting or aerating with a whisk is an easy way to keep thing accurate. Last year at conference, the Test Kitchen folks included a little demo in their workshop that illustrated this. They measured out 2 cups of flour - one by the "scoop with the cup" method, one by aerating the flour with a whisk, then spooning it into the cup. They then weighed them, and the difference was phenomenal! I think in my workshop the 2 cups weighed 10 and 7 ounces. :eek:

jlevernier said:
So Ann,
You basically said the same thing I did. Why does yours sound so much more elegant and clear?

--Jenny L
I dunno. :rolleyes: Had I paid more attention, I wouldn't have stolen your thunder by posting the same thing.
 
chefann said:
I Love AB!

Most people don't use a scale to measure their ingredients, though. And most recipes (except his) aren't even written that way.

E-yup. That's a big problem I have for a lot of recipes for baked goods. I do try at least to look for recipes that give some indication of whether ingredients are to be sifted before or after measuring (e.g., recipe lists "2 c. flour" then instructs "sift flour with baking soda and baking powder," or recipe calls for "2 c. flour, sifted"). PC recipes tend to be pretty good in this respect.

As for other recipes, though, I like to stick to AB's or look for recipes using baker's percentages. It takes a little initial math effort, but, to quote AB, "your patience will be rewarded." :)
 

Frequently Asked Questions

How can a strainer be used as a sifter?

A strainer can be used as a sifter by allowing fine particles to pass through its mesh while retaining larger particles. This is particularly useful for sifting dry ingredients like flour or powdered sugar to remove lumps and aerate the mixture.

What types of strainers can be used as sifters?

Most types of strainers, including fine mesh strainers and sieve strainers, can be used as sifters. The key is to choose a strainer with a mesh that is fine enough to catch larger particles while allowing smaller particles to fall through.

Do I need to shake the strainer to sift effectively?

Yes, shaking the strainer gently can help to encourage the finer particles to fall through while keeping the larger particles trapped. You can also tap the sides of the strainer to help the sifting process.

Can I use a strainer for sifting wet ingredients?

No, a strainer is not suitable for sifting wet ingredients. Sifting is typically used for dry ingredients to remove lumps and improve texture. For wet ingredients, other methods like whisking or blending are more appropriate.

Is there a difference between sifting and straining?

Yes, sifting is specifically aimed at separating and breaking up clumps in dry ingredients, while straining is used to separate solids from liquids. Although both processes involve using a mesh, their purposes and applications differ.

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