Friday Call: Possible Commission Increase at My Company

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around speculation regarding an upcoming conference call that may address potential changes to commission rates and other initiatives within the company. Participants share their hopes and concerns about the content of the call, particularly regarding commission increases and the implications of recent company policies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Opinion-based, Anecdotal, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses hope for an increase in the base commission from 20%, noting that other companies start at 25% to remain competitive.
  • Another participant speculates that the call might focus on charitable initiatives rather than commission changes, suggesting that significant changes would typically be announced at larger meetings.
  • Several users mention the importance of the 90-day notice requirement for changes to the Career Plan, as per industry codes.
  • One participant shares their experience of missing the email about the call, indicating that not all Advanced Directors received it.
  • Another participant suggests that the emails may be sent out in batches, leading to confusion among those who have not received them.
  • Some participants express concern about the "paid-as" issue and how it affects bonuses, indicating dissatisfaction with the current commission structure.
  • One participant hopes that if there is a commission increase, it will not be in the form of business credits, as they prefer cash incentives.
  • Another participant recalls past experiences with changes to the Career Plan, expressing skepticism about potential new changes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ among participants regarding the nature of the upcoming call and what changes might be announced. While some express hope for a commission increase, others are skeptical and concerned about the implications of potential changes.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a mix of personal experiences and speculation about company policies and practices, particularly regarding commission structures and communication from leadership.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants interested in understanding the dynamics of commission structures and company communications may find this thread relevant.

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  • #31
I agree about the Paid-As title issues. I can't believe they would go back there.Like Sandra said, our commission is just not competitive with other companies. I just hope that if it is a commission increase, they don't do a b.s. move and offer a % in *business credits* like other companies do. I like that we get cash and only cash and we can earn other things through the monthly incentives.Darn it that's it's only Wednesday!!! :p
 
Yes, hoping for the best -- more commission -- yay!
 
finley1991 said:
I just hope that if it is a commission increase, they don't do a b.s. move and offer a % in *business credits* like other companies do.
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Further explanation, please. Basically getting PC bucks? I've never heard of this before.

Yes, I'm sure they're "selling" it to the Execs who are in the great position of being able to give feedback right away, talk amongst themselves to come up with all of the angles.

I'm just not gonna order any recruiting materials cuz if they're changing things AGAIN that will mean another version of brochures.
 
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Becca_in_MD said:
Further explanation, please. Basically getting PC bucks? I've never heard of this before.
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Yes... that's exactly what it is. SLAH used to do it... they got xx% commission and xx% in business credits to get product, supplies, etc. I *think* 31 gifts does something similar but I'm not 100% clear... the girl I spoke to said her base is 25% with a 5% business credit (or something like that... I can't remember exactly what she called it).

I honestly like the incentives HO offers, especially the PC$ for new consultants... I've had 2-3 who have earned over $500 in their first 3 months this year alone!

Is it Friday yet?
 
finley1991 said:
My only other thought on this is that too many are being hosed by the *paid-as* issue. Surely they'd have to address that at some point...
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What do you mean by this?
 
This is what Colleen means:I am an AD -- I get the $10 Activity Bonus for each active on my personal Team. If my Downline Director is "paid as" a Director, she gets her $10 Activity Bonus per active consultant, but if she is not paid as a Director, she does not get her $10 Activity Bonus per active consultant and neither do I.Company wide, that could be a lot of money each month that no one gets.
 
jwpamp said:
This is what Colleen means:

I am an AD -- I get the $10 Activity Bonus for each active on my personal Team. If my Downline Director is "paid as" a Director, she gets her $10 Activity Bonus per active consultant, but if she is not paid as a Director, she does not get her $10 Activity Bonus per active consultant and neither do I.

Company wide, that could be a lot of money each month that no one gets.
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Well isn't that interesting?? I never noticed that before!!! So you only get it once the downline Director loses their title too?
 
Yes. I have lost a lot since my downline Director promoted.
 
jwpamp said:
Yes. I have lost a lot since my downline Director promoted.
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Yeah it's really when your second Director promotes that you're losing right? Because you don't get any increase in % but you lose your activity bonus for both the Director and their team. Very interesting. I'd never really thought of it before.i'll be interested to hear what you guys find out. Canada is usually a few months or a year behind you...
 
PamperedK said:
Yeah it's really when your second Director promotes that you're losing right? Because you don't get any increase in % but you lose your activity bonus for both the Director and their team. Very interesting. I'd never really thought of it before.i'll be interested to hear what you guys find out. Canada is usually a few months or a year behind you...
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Yes, basically I lose the $10 Activity Fee because her team is not my "Personal Team" anymore and I don't get the 4% override (I only get 3%) because she is not at "Director" level for that month.In one month I lost $50, in another $70 (she didn't have the $5k but did have the 6 consultants -- and then you have to add her in, too)....it adds up. And I still support everyone in my entire organization.
 
I got the email. My time is 1-2 as well, which means I cannot participate as I have students at that time. ARRGH!! I can't wait to hear!!
 
I agree...lots of money lost. We also lose out financially with 2nd gen D's because of the $100 bonus in lieu of a percentage. Curious to see what the exciting news is.
 
try having 3 gens down and only the 2nd makes it....over $500 lost for me last month :sick:
 
This is part of an email that I just received from my Exec. Dir. :

I am currently in AZ at Exe seminar. BIG things to share!!
I would love to call a Sunday nite Director call.....this Sunday
More info to come...Hmmmmm.....She's not a big communicator, and she NEVER spills the beans on anything, so the fact that she sent this must mean it's pretty big news, I think.
 
Praying it's GOOD news!
 
Looking at the definition:
Initiative
1. an introductory act or step; leading action: to take the initiative in making friends.
2. readiness and ability in initiating action; enterprise: to lack initiative.
3. one's personal, responsible decision: to act on one's own initiative.
4. Government .
a. a procedure by which a specified number of voters may propose a statute, constitutional amendment, or ordinance, and compel a popular vote on its adoption. Compare referendum ( def. 1 ) .
b. the general right or ability to present a new bill or measure, as in a legislature.​
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I'm predicting 4a ~ we'll get a voice in something ... maybe incentives?
 
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Sheila said:
I'm predicting 4a ~ we'll get a voice in something ... maybe incentives?
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That's a perk of being an ED and above. We used to be able to vote on the HWC products but they did away with that at least 5 years ago which was a bummer.
 
Ouch Jenni!

Since it's coming from Jean, I'm thinking it's going to be about recruiting or structure. Might be a end of the year promotion/incentive or a finish strong kind of pep talk with a company challenge or something. Or a wahoo recruiting club perk.
 
I'm betting on definition 2: initiating action; enterprise.

It's worded as a 2012 initiative, so I assume it starts in Jan. A new partnership with another corporation? We had all of those Pillsbury coupons with the recipe cards when I started. Or we're buying someone out. Man, what if we merged with TS?!?

I'm still placing my money on charitable giving, ie. a revamp of the HWC campaign. Though to be really sure, bet it's NOT something I've thought of. I am never right. :)
 
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Becca_in_MD said:
A new partnership with another corporation? We had all of those Pillsbury coupons with the recipe cards when I started. Or we're buying someone out. Man, what if we merged with TS?!?
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WOW! I hadn't thought of that!!!!! That would certainly be interesting... and would help with people confusing us. I'd hate to carry inventory though and I know some TS reps choose to do that.
 
The funny thing is probably NONE of us are right! LOLIt is fun to guess & wish though, huh? :D
 
I agree, Sheila! I am sure that NONE of us are right!!
 
Okay - here's something interesting to throw in the mix....

I have a consultant on my team who recently also signed up to be a 31 Consultant. ( :( )

But she told me that their training material is almost exactly like ours....AND their training DVD is done in the PC TEST KITCHEN! When she watched it, she thought it looked really familiar, so she got out some PC training DVD's - and it's the same location. And think of all the really nice bags we're getting, and the picnic basket, and lunch bag....things that make you go "hmmmm...."!
 
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It's interesting that you say that because I looked at the 31 compensation plan and it's almost identical to PC's. They even have "Circle of Honor" as their top recognition. Someone here mentioned that it was started by a PC Rep.Interestingly enough though, on a call with my upline, she told us that Jean & Marla had a few items from 31 (not sure why) and that they didn't have very good things to say about the products (quality, etc). It sounded me to me like they were kind of trashing them verbally. (That's just how I took it...)I REALLY hope we don't merge with another company. But, they didn't ask me!
 
I think I remember somewhere that the person who started 31 was with PC at one point
 
My girlfriend is a 31 consultant and when she returned from her national conference she said the founder told them all that during one of her speeches. That she was a former PC consultant.
 
What's her name?
 
bethcooks4u said:
What's her name?
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I just looked on their website - Cindy Monroe - CEO & Founder
 
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  • #60
Got this today from my D... still no hint as to what it could be though. :cry:Team Leaders and above, I encourage you to hear some good news on Friday in the calls you have been invited to. The information will help you plan your calendars for 2012 and it is very fun and energizing news! Consultants and Sr. Consultants, you'll be getting the scoop on Monday, I believe.I know there are a lot of calls being offered to you. This one's an easy one to listen to and bubbles with good promise for the future. Can't say any more.... :-)Doesn't sound like a raise. :(
 
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