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Eq Survival Tips, May Apply to Other Disasters as Well

In summary, Doug Copp recommends that people hide under a table or stand in a doorway during an earthquake, and that wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in. He also recommends that people get near the outer walls of buildings or outside of them if possible.
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Got this from my boss:

All,

Just a reminder due to recent *events...

F.Y.I. Where to be During an Earthquake

Remember that stuff about hiding under a table or standing in a doorway?? *Well, this guy has a completely reverse
opinion.This is very interesting, different from what we were all taught.

Boy! Is this ever an eye opener. Directly opposite of what we've been taught over the years! I can remember in school being told to, "duck and cover" or stand in a doorway during an earthquake. This guy's findings is absolutely amazing.
I hope we all remember his survival method if we are ever in an earthquake!!!
Please read this and pass the info along to your family members; it could save their lives someday!

EXTRACT FROM DOUG COPP'S ARTICLE ON THE: "TRIANGLE OF LIFE"

My name is Doug Copp. I am the Rescue Chief and Disaster Manager of the
American Rescue Team International (ARTI), the world's most experienced
rescue team. The information in this article will save lives in an earthquake.

I have crawled inside 875 collapsed buildings, worked with rescue teams
from 60 countries, founded rescue teams in several countries, and I am a
member of many rescue teams from many countries.

I was the United Nations expert in Disaster Mitigation for two years. I
have worked at every major disaster in the world since 1985, except for
simultaneous disasters.

The first building I ever crawled inside of was a school in Mexico City
during the 1985 earthquake. Every child was under its desk. Every child
was crushed to the thickness of their bones. They could have survived by
lying down next to their desks in the aisles. It was obscene, unnecessary and
I wondered why the children were not in the aisles. I didn't at the time
know that the children were told to hide under something.

Simply stated, when buildings collapse, the weight of the ceilings
falling upon the objects or furniture inside crushes these objects, leaving a
space or void next to them. This space is what I call the "triangle of life".
The larger the object, the stronger, the less it will compact. The less the
object compacts, the larger the void, the greater the probability that
the person who is using this void for safety will not be injured. The next
time you watch collapsed buildings, on television, count the "triangles" you
see formed. They are everywhere. It is the most common shape, you will see,
in a collapsed building.

TIPS FOR EARTHQUAKE SAFETY

1) Most everyone who simply "ducks and covers" WHEN BUILDINGS COLLAPSE are crushed to death. People who get under
objects, like desks or cars, are crushed.

2) Cats, dogs and babies often naturally curl up in the fetal position..
You should too in an earthquake. It is a natural safety/survival instinct. You can survive in a smaller void. Get next
to an object, next to a sofa, next to a large bulky object that will compress slightly but leave a void next to it.

3) Wooden buildings are the safest type of construction to be in during
an earthquake. Wood is flexible and moves with the force of the earthquake.
If the wooden building does collapse, large survival voids are created..
Also, the wooden building has less concentrated, crushing weight. Brick
buildings will break into individual bricks. Bricks will cause many injuries but
less squashed bodies than concrete slabs.

4) If you are in bed during the night and an earthquake occurs, simply
roll off the bed. A safe void will exist around the bed. Hotels can achieve a
much greater survival rate in earthquakes, simply by posting a sign on The back of the door of every room telling
occupants to lie down on the floor, next to the bottom of the bed during an earthquake.

5) If an earthquake happens and you cannot easily escape by getting out
the door or window, then lie down and curl up in the fetal position next to
a sofa, or large chair.

6) Most everyone who gets under a doorway when buildings collapse is
killed. How? If you stand under a doorway and the doorjamb falls forward or
backward you will be crushed by the ceiling above. If the door jam falls sideways you will be cut in half by the
doorway. In either case, you will be killed!

7) Never go to the stairs. The stairs have a different "moment of
frequency" (they swing separately from the main part of the building).
The stairs and remainder of the building continuously bump into each
other until structural failure of the stairs takes place. The people who get
on stairs before they fail are chopped up by the stair treads - horribly
mutilated. Even if the building doesn't collapse, stay away from the
stairs. The stairs are a likely part of the building to be damaged. Even if the
stairs are not collapsed by the earthquake, they may collapse later when
overloaded by fleeing people. They should always be checked for safety,
even when the rest of the building is not damaged.


8) Get Near the Outer Walls Of Buildings Or Outside Of Them If Possible
- It is much better to be near the outside of the building rather than
the interior. The farther inside you are from the outside perimeter of the
building the greater the probability that your escape route will be
blocked.

9) People inside of their vehicles are crushed when the road above falls
in an earthquake and crushes their vehicles; which is exactly what happened
with the slabs between the decks of the Nimitz Freeway. The victims of
the San Francisco earthquake all stayed inside of their vehicles. They were
all killed. They could have easily survived by getting out and sitting or
lying next to their vehicles. Everyone killed would have survived if they had
been able to get out of their cars and sit or lie next to them. All the
crushed cars had voids 3 feet high next to them, except for the cars that had
columns fall directly across them.

10) I discovered, while crawling inside of collapsed newspaper offices
and other offices with a lot of paper, that paper does not compact.
Large voids are found surrounding stacks of paper.

Spread the word and save someone's life... The Entire world is
experiencing natural calamities so be prepared!

"We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly"

In 1996 we made a film, which proved my survival methodology to be
correct. The Turkish Federal Government, City of Istanbul , University of
Istanbul Case Productions and ARTI cooperated to film this practical, scientific
test. We collapsed a school and a home with 20 mannequins inside. Ten
mannequins did "duck and cover," and ten mannequins I used in my
"triangle of life" survival method. After the simulated earthquake collapse we
crawled through the rubble and entered the building to film and document the
results. The film, in which I practiced my survival techniques under
directly observable, scientific conditions , relevant to building collapse, showed there would have been zero percent survival for those doing duck and cover. There would likely have been 100 percent survivability for people using my method of the "triangle of life." This film has been seen by millions
of viewers on television in Turkey and the rest of Europe, and it was seen
in the USA , Canada and Latin America on the TV program Real TV
 
Interesting- I was taught when I lived in San Fran, CA- to stand in a doorway!
 
Although the concepts are interesting, I'm not sure about them. Let's say a roof collapses...I'd rather take the diluted force as it went through a desk than the full force on my back. It "may not" hit and object on the way down and if I'm in the aisle I get the full force.I'd agree with the fetal position though...it helps protect your internal organs...I'm going to do a little digging and see what others say...
 
http://www.earthquakecountry.info/dropcoverholdon/Petal_on_Copp.pdf

Did it for you, Janet- he's a fraud...
 
http://www2.bpaonline.org/Emergencyprep/arc-on-doug-copp.html


Here's more-
 
Very interesting...but why would they teach us something different all these years? I am curious!!
 
It's not true, Chris
 
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Nah, nah - beat you Kacey! ;)
 
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janetupnorth said:
Nah, nah - beat you Kacey! ;)

Yes you did- but you had a head start... besides, I'm so wonderful people desire to dupliacate my screen name! thpppthttt! :p ;)
 
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Kitchen Diva said:
Yes you did- but you had a head start... besides, I'm so wonderful people desire to dupliacate my screen name! thpppthttt! :p ;)

Naw, I was reading them all. ;)

Yeah, I guess you win on that one...no one else will probably claim "janetupnorth"...
 
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janetupnorth said:
Naw, I was reading them all. ;)

Yeah, I guess you win on that one...no one else will probably claim "janetupnorth"...

My mother could--- :)

I didn't worry about reading them, I just ran out there to see if I coudl help you! :)
 
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Also- I was in CA when that huge earthquake hit- those who were smooshed to the thickness of copy paper by the double decker highway had NO triangle of life around them like he claimed... it was nothing but a gazillion ton sandwich!
 
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I must have been reading the list of 10 when you two posted!!
 
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Yeah, we're zippy that way!

Have a great night,
 
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Kitchen Diva said:
Yes you did- but you had a head start... besides, I'm so wonderful people desire to dupliacate my screen name! thpppthttt! :p ;)

LOL!!!! Now how did you find out about that!!!

I started reading this thread then said - hey I don't live where there are earthquakes - YET!
 
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PamperedDor said:
LOL!!!! Now how did you find out about that!!!

I started reading this thread then said - hey I don't live where there are earthquakes - YET!

The new kitchendiva posted and confused Kacey! LOL!
 
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Kitchen Diva said:
My mother could--- :)

I didn't worry about reading them, I just ran out there to see if I coudl help you! :)

Oh yeah, forget about that...it really isn't a common name for my age!
 
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janetupnorth said:
The new kitchendiva posted and confused Kacey! LOL!


LOL - Janet - I told Kacey - I was on early today and Jess and I thought it was a prank!! She made her announcement in the chat box and I thought it was Kacey pulling my leg!!

I am sure she is delightful, just maybe the name should be a little different for posting and pm purpose. But that is my opinion -

OK end of Highjack - earthquakes????????? Not on Long Island YET.... and hopefully not too soon! I can't imagine the fear those of you feel when it does hit!
 
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I just looked for the replies on this threat and all I can say is THANK YOU!! I just forwarded the information to my boss and the rest in our office. Everyone was talking yesterday about how they've done it wrong all along and at least now they can make a more informed decision.

You guys are great!
 

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