Who is Name-Calling and Bashing on the Missing Baby Update?

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Discussion Overview

The thread discusses a tragic incident involving a missing baby, with participants expressing their emotional reactions and personal views on the situation, including the actions of the parents and the role of the media.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses deep sadness over the discovery of the baby in a trash bag, indicating a heavy emotional response.
  • Another participant shares their inability to comprehend the situation, emphasizing its horror.
  • Several users mention the possibility of SIDS and the mother's distress during her husband's absence, reflecting on the challenges faced by military families.
  • One participant questions the father's involvement in the situation, suggesting he should have been more concerned upon returning home.
  • Another participant, identifying as a military spouse, shares their perspective on the pressures faced by military families, noting the mother's potential struggles with mental health.
  • Some participants express a lack of sympathy for the mother, arguing that mental health issues should not excuse her actions.
  • One participant highlights the media's role in shaping public perception, suggesting that information may be misrepresented.
  • Several users call for prayers for the family, indicating a desire for compassion amidst the tragedy.
  • One participant urges others to refrain from attacking each other in the discussion, advocating for understanding and support.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ significantly among participants, with some expressing sympathy for the mother and others showing no compassion, leading to a lack of clear consensus on the situation.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a range of emotional responses to a distressing news story, with participants sharing personal experiences and perspectives related to mental health and family dynamics.

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Participants within the consultant community who are interested in discussions about emotional responses to tragic events and the complexities of family situations may find this thread relevant.

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  • #31
Carolyn - "Amen Diane", then why PRAYTELL did you reply? Diane said to stop the bickering and name calling ('cause that's what you did calling me ignorant to which I take A HUGE offense since I am highly educated...) and pray for the people.

That being said, thank you Diane, Debbie, and JTNT for your comments. I appreciate your feedback as you did so in an appropriate manner. Without "judgement" yourselves, or, even better - name calling.

Now, if you'll excuse me I must go finish reading the rest of this thread. You know - the part where the fact that the poor baby was treated like trash got lost...
 
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  • #32
Honestly Carolyn - I am TRULY offended by your words. Seriously.

This is case in point for what happens when you assume. You "assume" that I have never suffered from any sort of chemical imbalance. You are wrong. Very wrong. So to say that my "ignorance is astounding" is VERY hurtful to me. Very.

I am "completely uninformed and speaking on a subject about which" I "have no knowledge"? Really?

Oh, how I wish that were true.


"Spend a few days, weeks, months taking care of someone with clinical depression, bi-polar disorder, schizophrenia...then tell me how you feel."

I still feel the same way about this mother.

My ignorance is "astounding".
 
pamperedape said:
Too many MURDERING mothers are patted on the head and excused because of "depression". The bottom line - she put her dead child in the attic. For weeks. She MAY have even MURDERED her. We don't know that yet. We do know one thing - her baby girl didn't deserve to be treated like yesterday's trash. For weeks that baby lay up there rotting. Exactly - there WERE other children in the house. How screwed up are they going to be now? I will never accept depression as any sort of excuse or reason to do something like this to someone. Perhaps THAT is why these horrific crimes keep happening. "Insanity".

Exactly.



Still - I have no sympathy for her.

I have no sympathy for the mother either. What she did is horrible and unexcusable. HOWEVER...as a mother of 4 who were all under the age of 5 when I was 25, and as a woman who has been diagnosed with depression...you cannot understand what depression can do to a person unless you have experienced it yourself. I choose to get the help I need so that my children have a happy life and so that I can cope with the demands of raising 4 small children. What this mother did is unacceptable but I find your harsh opinion a little offensive. The depression I deal with is never used as an excuse for poor behavior on my part. However if you have ever been through something like depression you can understand how, left untreated, these awful things can happen. Until you have been there, it's easy to look in a situation and think that this woman was just an awful person that is below any of the rest of us. Maybe she is just an awful person with no conscience or care for herself or human life-but you don't know that and while depression is no excuse for behaving as she has, it is a REAL problem for some people and can lead to horrible acts if left untreated.
 
Let it go, folks. No one condones that the mom did a good thing. Quit pointing fingers (remember there are 3 pointing back at YOU) and move on already.

You can devote your life's energy to griping, backstabbing, and "being right" or you can turn, love your own family, go get back on the phone and get two more bookings, and be the example of Christ. This kind of raw, senseless crime brings out the rawness in each of us. Stop.

(Not naming any names, but it takes two foolish people to have an argument!)

How connected is a family that doesn't realize -a mom is hurting? -a baby is missing? -there's a funny smell outside? -something doesn't add up in the story they're being told?

Be grateful that we work for a company with someone like Doris as a founder. Someone who knows that family mealtime is important. Connecting is important. Our very products make people better because they provide time and environment to make family relationships better. Add to that, Doris's work with the Family Resilliency Studies, and pray. Pray hard!

I could write a book on depression and post partum and their impact on families. Instead, my November bookings stink and I need to get some catalogs sent out for a show November 3. So I say to myself as much as anyone else...

Quit 'cher nonsense and get back to work!

-praying for Paige and her family-
 
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  • #35
Honestly, I am SO tired of the name calling. I am told to "let it go" in one breath, then called "foolish" in another. You don't have to "name names", I AM NOT "ignorant" and can figure it out. I *REALLY* want to be done with this, as I DO totally "love my own family", but I feel the need to defend myself when I am called a name.

*I* did nothing wrong. I DID NOT personally attack anyone here, but who's being called names? Me. It is hurtful that I am taking the brunt of this by being called "ingnorant" and "foolish". I WILL defend myself when this happens. I am neither of these things!!!

If you would like to continue to call me names and bash me for having an opinion - PLEASE do it in private. My name has already taken a big hit here and I would love to keep any amount of dignity that I have as far as this board is concerned. My email is...

[email protected]
 
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