My Recruiter Asked if She Could Have My Recruit.

[ChefJami83]

Hi! I'm not only new here, I'm a new consultant. I'm incredibly excited to be starting my business and for all of the positive support and feedback I've had thus far. I need some help sorting out a situation and hope its appropriate to post here.

To make a long story short, my grand opening show was yesterday. My soon to be sister-in-law decided she wanted to become a consultant. It wasn't a new decision it is something that she has been talking about since I became one. Her and I had discussed it then and she said she would wait until I did it, because that way I could recruit her. I called my recruiter yesterday after she did the agreement to ask her how we go about doing it online (I've had my consultant number for a week, so I'm very new), I didn't know the proper steps. Instead of telling me, she nicely asked me if she could sign up under her because she wouldn't benefit me much right now, but she could give me something like a bag or turnabout in exchange for my SIL because she is trying to earn points for a trip.

I'm at a loss for what to do etiquette wise. She talked to her a little and although I know I'm the one who helped my SIL make that final desicion I'm wondering if it is something I should consider doing? I do not want to. I set a goal, 1 recruit in 30 and I'm incredibly excited.

But my recruiter also gave me two shows that were booked from the party I signed up at, which I thought was incredibly nice. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

 

[ChefBeckyD]

Ummm, in one word - NO!That was just wrong of your recruiter. WRONG! I'm sorry, I should be more eloquent here, but what she did is sooo wrong. Do you need help with how to submit the agreement? There are plenty of us on here who could help you.Oh, and giving you those shows from the show where you signed - that's just common practice, so don't let her guilt you into anything by the fact that she did that.

 

[SonyaVerrillo]

Instead of telling me, she nicely asked me if she could sign up under her because she wouldn't benefit me much right now, but she could give me something like a bag or turnabout in exchange for my SIL because she is trying to earn points for a trip.

SHAME ON YOUR RECRUITER!!! :grumpy: In my opinion, she shouldn't have even asked the question! YOU recruited her, you get to keep her! It benefits you in PC Dollars! Sr. Consultant Title! Overrides! Just because your recruiter is desperate to go to Maui, doesn't give her an excuse to steal from you. (Now I should disclose that I haven't recruited anyone myself, so I'm not hung up on keeping/getting a Director level or anything.)

Stick to your gut, run your business the way that you want. Luckily, the beauty of this business is that it's yours & yours alone.

 

[wadesgirl]

NO WAY!!!! DO NOT LET HER DO THIS TO YOU!!!! You do benefit from having someone under you, even if it's just one! How long has your recruiter been in business? You can log onto PC's main website and sign her up using your consultant number. Or mail her agreement in. I would call your director and talk to her about this situation, I'm wondering how many other people your recruiter has done this too!

 

[BlueMoon]

Jamie, although I am new, too, I was shocked by your post. wow.

First, if your SIL signs up under you, it is an immediate pay raise for you. Your recruiter will get closer to Director or AD or whatever her goal is.

Second, it may be a more dramatic help to your recruiter to get those points, but in the long-run benefits will be more significant for you.

I listened to an mp3 earlier that showed how much one penny, doubled everyday, adds up to....I think it's important to keep the long term rewards of signing her yourself in mind. A tote, two shows, these are nice immediate gratification, but the long term results of signing your sister and working together can seriously outweigh that.

AND, really, it benefits you recruiter when you recruit someone, though again, the benefits are long-term.

Best of luck, and thank goodness for this site, huh?

 

[wadesgirl]

SHAME ON YOUR RECRUITER!!! :grumpy: In my opinion, she shouldn't have even asked the question! YOU recruited her, you get to keep her! It benefits you in PC Dollars! Sr. Consultant Title! Overrides! Just because your recruiter is desperate to go to Maui, doesn't give her an excuse to steal from you. (Now I should disclose that I haven't recruited anyone myself, so I'm not hung up on keeping/getting a Director level or anything.)

Stick to your gut, run your business the way that you want. Luckily, the beauty of this business is that it's yours & yours alone.

Even if someone is "hung up" on keeping/getting director they need to do it themselves!

If your recruiter wants the points, she needs to recruit herself!!

 

[ChefJami83]

Thank you all so much. She wasn't trying to guilt me or force me though she did just say it was a thought she wanted to run by me but I was a bit shocked myself. I'm actually kind of questioning that I signed up with her. I know my directors name, but havent heard from her. I signed up on the 22nd of August, and had to attempt figuring out how to get my consultant number. Yes I love this site. I haven't posted except for this, but I've read a lot and found lots of great help just from other consultants posts. Thank you so much for your advice!

 

[wadesgirl]

After rereading this I'm tempted to tell you to share with your upline what your recruiter is doing, this is against all ethics of the PC business!

 

[esavvymom]

Wow. Agree with everyone here. NO way. She just needs your Consultant ID # and can signup on PC's website. Have her do it with you by her side if possible so you can answer any questions (name, contact, ID #, etc) if you wanted.But your recruiter obviously either doesn't know what she's talking about saying it doesn't benefit you, or she's just selfish for the recruiting points for herself.CONGRATULATIONS for your first recruit! OH, and when you get a recruit and she qualifies, you may get extra PC Bucks for it too! (not sure the qualification dates off hand- if she has to do the 30 days or within your 90...but either way, you DO benefit, especially if she qualifies with $1250 in sales in her first 30 days.)

 

[debbie mc]

Hi! I'm not only new here, I'm a new consultant. I'm incredibly excited to be starting my business and for all of the positive support and feedback I've had thus far. I need some help sorting out a situation and hope its appropriate to post here.

To make a long story short, my grand opening show was yesterday. My soon to be sister-in-law decided she wanted to become a consultant. It wasn't a new decision it is something that she has been talking about since I became one. Her and I had discussed it then and she said she would wait until I did it, because that way I could recruit her. I called my recruiter yesterday after she did the agreement to ask her how we go about doing it online (I've had my consultant number for a week, so I'm very new), I didn't know the proper steps. Instead of telling me, she nicely asked me if she could sign up under her because she wouldn't benefit me much right now, but she could give me something like a bag or turnabout in exchange for my SIL because she is trying to earn points for a trip.

I'm at a loss for what to do etiquette wise. She talked to her a little and although I know I'm the one who helped my SIL make that final desicion I'm wondering if it is something I should consider doing? I do not want to. I set a goal, 1 recruit in 30 and I'm incredibly excited.

But my recruiter also gave me two shows that were booked from the party I signed up at, which I thought was incredibly nice. Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

Firstly, congratulations on deciding to own your own PC Business! And, welcome to the CS Community.

Secondly....to address your questions -
My first reaction to your post was UTTER SHOCK at your recruiter's audacity to even think, let alone ask for your recruit - it actually makes me a little to mad that she would do such a thing!! Any new members you welcome to your team will be worth far more in the long run than any gift your recruiter could give you. And, it won't be just points for a trip that your recruiter will gain with your SIL as her recruit - she will make $$ in overrides every single time your SIL has sales & so much more. Your recruiter, IMHO, is trying to simplify the situation to the point of "snowing" you. :grumpy:

While there is etiquette about "taking a recruit" who has discussed the business opportunity with another consultant, if your SIL decided she would become a consultant once you did so she could be on your team, I don't think you would be breaking the etiquette rules. Ultimately, it is your SIL's decision as to whom she joins under.

All that being said, there are many others on this board with more experience & larger teams than mine - they may have a different opinion and/or be able to better advise you.

Again, congrats & I wish you all the best in your PC Journey!

Cheers,
Debbie

 

[chefcharity]

Not to mention you will get a 1% increase in commission and make 1% off of her sales also. Might not be much, but we all have to start our teams somewhere! It all starts with one

Congratulations on your first recruit!!!

 

[chefa]

To say that her request is unethical is an understatement! (Although I can think of some good adjectives that describe her!) That your recruiter would even think such a thing, much less voice it is beyond belief. Don't let her take your recruit just because she's trying to earn a trip. You keep recruiting at this rate and you'll be earning a trip too!!

If she's hinted that you "owe" her for those 2 shows from the party you, don't believe her! Stand your ground and tell her while you appreciate she has a goal to earn a trip, remind her of YOUR goal of 1 recruit in 30 days and that your SIL waited to sign under YOU, not her! She should be jumping for joy that you met your goal instead of being such a selfish twit!

If you're not comfortable dealing with her directly, contact her upline director or Home Office for assistance. Personally I'd report her to Home Office then call her and tell her what I did! :-0

 

[debbie mc]

Looks like I was posting my last one at the same time as everyone else. You likely can tell we are all jumping on your post so that you know unequivocally that your recruiter is wrong, wrong, wrong to even ask!

After rereading this I'm tempted to tell you to share with your upline what your recruiter is doing, this is against all ethics of the PC business!

100% agree!

 

[Tropicalburstqt2]

I'm so sorry your recruiter asked this of you. That being said, welcome to pc & to cs! these guys & gals are the best cluster there is!!

 

[ChefJami83]

I really appreciate everyone posting! It makes me feel better about my decision! It's funny I actually found this site through someone who isn't even a consultant. lol She said "go here" lol.

 

[Sheila]

Two thumbs down for your recruiter. You have every right to keep your recruit.

 

[raebates]

I'm so sorry that your recruiter gave you such bad information. Actually, I find it upsetting. It's just wrong. If your SIL waited to sign up under you, it's you she should sign up under. Your recruiter didn't do anything more than most of us do in giving you the bookings. Those are your friends and family. They're a great start to your own business, which, by the way, benefits your recruiter.

 

[BethCooks4U]

I'm as shocked as everyone else that your recruiter would even ASK! In fact, I have a recruit lead from a show that I've been talking to and when closing out the show the host decided to sign (had said no up to then). Now I am urging that first lead to sign with the new consultant. It's better for everyone!

As for the shows she "gave" you. They are your shows - your friends and family. Even if she kept them they might have done a small show or totally cancelled once they learned you were selling. They will want to help YOU not another consultant. Most of us "give" those shows to the new consultant to get the business going but really we know they're yours anyway.

 

[sassypip]

Ummm, in one word -

NO!


That was just wrong of your recruiter. WRONG! I'm sorry, I should be more eloquent here, but what she did is sooo wrong.

Do you need help with how to submit the agreement? There are plenty of us on here who could help you.


Oh, and giving you those shows from the show where you signed - that's just common practice, so don't let her guilt you into anything by the fact that she did that.

My thoughts exactly!

COngratulations on your 1st recruit in 30 days! YOu are off to a great start. If I were you I would be finding another recruiter to work under. YOu can't trust her for advice on your business. IF she is doing this, I wonder what other shady things she is doing. I do not post here often, but I read a lot of posts and you can be assured that if you come here you will get honest answers and FABULOUS advice for your business. I wish you much success and luck! I am so glad you did not give her your recruit. THat is HUGE in your first 30 days and shame on her for trying to tell you otherwise!!

 

[Jolie_Paradoxe]

WOW!! That is horrible! She shouldn't have asked nor placed you in an awkward situation! Congrats and Welcome to PC and CS. Also, a BIG Kudos on your 1st recruit. Of course it helps you to have a recruit....how will you get to 4 or more if you don't start with your 1st!?! Plus, if you SIL qualifies in her 1st 30 days, YOU get 150 Pampered Chef Dollars. You will be a Senior Consultant when she submits her 1st show, plus you get a raise! Lots of exclamations here, but I am REALLY bothered that she even asked.

I'm a director and I help with all my team's recruit leads...all the way down to the 3rd and 4th generation and never do I consider them as mine if they decide to join. In fact, I work with an indirect recruit plus her recruit and now my indirect recruits' recruits. My indirect recruit's recruit gave me 5 interviews in her 1st 30 days and 4 signed! She is about to promote to Director and never did I assume WIFM.

Anyone who you approach about the biz or bookings, anyone who is in your circle or from your shows are ALL YOURS. Whether your recruiter or director help you, they are still for you. Giving the bookings to you from your show is common and the right thing to do to help you get started, plus they are your friends and family. I agree with someone's post above....she wants trip points? Then SHE needs to get out there and recruit.

 

[ChefKelebel]

a picture is worth a thousand words...

 

[flemings99]

Shocked! I'd never ask for someone else's recruit! She should be celebrating with you on your new teammate and success.

Congrats on your new recruit! Best wishes for continued success.

 

[chefsteph07]

Wow. Do not let her do this, it sounds like you have made up your mind anyway, and it's GREAT that you came here to get everyone's feedback. I'm just agreeing w/ everyone else as well, if she wants a trip, she's going to have to WORK for it like everyone else! I do wonder as well how many others she has done this to. Does she have alot of other people under her?
And in fact, it is WILL benefit her if you have someone sign under you! If she ever wants to go for director, you have to have 2 lines with people under them, so you could be her first for that, then she just works with the others on her team to recruit and it makes it all the more easy for her..but it sounds like she just wants to steal and trick other new, unsuspecting consultants into doing what is in HER best interest. How does she sleep at night? Thank heavens you didn't actually let her. A GIFT for a recruit??? PULEEZ. :grumpy:

 

[gailz2]

Like all others who posted, I'm amazed, shocked, and appalled that your director tried to "buy" your recruit through guilt and trinkets. She should be supporting your and encouraging you to have your own recruits. Shame on her.Congrats on the recruit and welcome to CS and PC!! Keep up the good work.

 

[lesliec]

Ummm NO!!!! Sounds like you have already gotten some wonderful advice. Have her sign under you and be done with it.

 

[Jolie_Paradoxe]

So I was thinking more about this....and I just want to be sure you don't ever get misled. Make sure that when your SIL joins, it is through The Pampered Chef or YOUR website (if you have it). Do NOT sign through your recruiters website because it will automatically be under her. Once the agreement is submitted, NO changes can be made. Be sure that you and SIL review the info BEFORE submitting to guarantee it is under you and correct.

Fortunately you have this site, but whenever you have a problem or aren't sure if the info you're getting is valid, you can call solution center. They will assist you and most times walk you through everything.

 

[natibug]

I am shocked that your recruiter asked this of you. I just joined August 1st, and I made my $1250 this month and received the new fall products. good luck this month was wonderful for me and I have a possible recruit already. Don't give up and talk to your recruiter and tell her how you feel and if she does not respond well you can talk to your director. That is not a good taste to be left in your mouth after only being in business for a few weeks. Stay strong you will do great.

 

[Dina Atnip]

I would not ask her for nothing else just call HO for all your answers this is just wrong.

 

[jzramom]

Make sure you are getting to know a lot of consultants cause your recruiter seems to have a poor business sense. Also, if you go to the Files tab and enter training you will find Scott's New Consultant Training #1.doc you will find some great help getting started even before you kit comes.

 

[mountainmama74]

Well, you''ve gotten some good advice here, and I think it goes without saying that we're all totally offended that your recruiter would do that to you. I'm so glad you asked!!!

That being said.... Did she sign yet?? Congratulations on getting your first recruit in your first 30 days!! That's so awesome!