Is It Safe to Advertise Without My Knowledge?

[cathyskitchen]

Well, if that's the way she reacts to others trying to warn her personally, don't bother going that route - just report her to HO and move on. What a pain in the you-know-what!!!

 

[chefkristin]

I am sorry--I didn't mean this one. It was someone else I dealt with. But still.

 

[Stampaholic1961]

On Ebay, you can contact them without revealing any of your personal information.

 

[cathyskitchen]

You know, in my opinion, it doesn't matter. If they are violating the rules that blatantly, they deserve a call from HO instead of us trying to be nice and "let them know". Screw that! If I can't do it, neither can they!! :grumpy:

 

[Stampaholic1961]

I did contact her & she said she thought that since she wasn't selling "product" that is was ok according to the manual.

 

[ljeffries]

You know, in my opinion, it doesn't matter. If they are violating the rules that blatantly, they deserve a call from HO instead of us trying to be nice and "let them know". Screw that! If I can't do it, neither can they!! :grumpy:

I might have reported one a few weeks ago. I wonder what HO does...if they actually follow through on them.

 

[katie0128]

Yes, they do. I posted this somewhere else, but a director in my cluster had her DH selling her old PC stuff on ebay. She really did think that was acceptable since it was her DH's ebay account, not hers. Anyway, someone reported her to HO and they called and told her to either remove the auctions or her consultant agreement would be terminated.

 

[janetupnorth]

I did contact her & she said she thought that since she wasn't selling "product" that is was ok according to the manual.

Well there is one thing I BET she is doing that she shouldn't...she is offering $15 free product for a $150 catalog show...I'm willing to bet that she is going to enter each and every one as a cooking show and not be "out" and money herself.

 

[JaimeQ]

Well there is one thing I BET she is doing that she shouldn't...she is offering $15 free product for a $150 catalog show...I'm willing to bet that she is going to enter each and every one as a cooking show and not be "out" and money herself.

I bet that is what she is going to do...sneaky sneaky

 

[janetupnorth]

I bet that is what she is going to do...sneaky sneaky

Oh, and let me add...unauthorized use of the PC logo, using the terms Pampered Chef in advertising without the (R) symbol, and failing to identify yourself by name and official title. We are supposed to advertise with XXXXXXX Independent Consultant for the Pampered Chef.....

 

[JaimeQ]

I didn't even think of that. I hope she heeds the warning and removes it before she gets in to some serious trouble.

 

[Stampaholic1961]

I told her that if it didn't fall under the "selling product" violation that it would fall under the "advertising on the web" violation. I haven't heard back since I told her that.

 

[Stampaholic1961]

Oh, by the way, if you want to contact someone on ebay without revealing your personal information, don't use the same "screen name" there as you do on other groups! If she's a member here, she now knows who I am!!

 

[cathyskitchen]

Oh, by the way, if you want to contact someone on ebay without revealing your personal information, don't use the same "screen name" there as you do on other groups! If she's a member here, she now knows who I am!!

That's why I would never even bother contacting them personally in the first place. Just report them and let HO be the "bad guy" - that's their job anyway.

 

[Cindycooks]

Well there is one thing I BET she is doing that she shouldn't...she is offering $15 free product for a $150 catalog show...I'm willing to bet that she is going to enter each and every one as a cooking show and not be "out" and money herself.

My first thoughts exactly! Why else would she be offering $15? Did anyone forward this on to HO? You know I can see some of them thinking they can get away with selling on ebay (when you are not identifying themselves as a PC Consultant) without getting caught. But this is total advertising, using our logo and identifying herself!!!! This just floors me!

 

[janetupnorth]

My first thoughts exactly! Why else would she be offering $15? Did anyone forward this on to HO? You know I can see some of them thinking they can get away with selling on ebay (when you are not identifying themselves as a PC Consultant) without getting caught. But this is total advertising, using our logo and identifying herself!!!! This just floors me!

Done hours ago. I like to give people the courtesy of "warning" them, but when she comes back and says she isn't selling product so it is not in violation, she's thought already about what she's doing and they need to explain the rules to her. Also, after what happened to Kristin, like someone said, best to let them handle it...

She'll get a warning and a chance to correct it.

 

[Morvin]

this maybe a stupid questions but i am a little foggy on the rules for advertising can you advertise on line at all? or can you just not advertise your web site on line? I understand that you can't sell on line other than you website but the reat i'm not so sure about. If someone could either clear this up for me or direct in the direction to find it i would appritiate it!!!

thank you
heather

 

[cathyskitchen]

Go to Consultant's Corner - you can either click on "Policies and Procedures" in the "Frequently Visited Links" section and look up "Advertising and Publicity Policies" (it's on page F-18), or click on the "Downloads" tab and scroll down to "Advertising and Publicity Policies" - it's all in there.

 

[Morvin]

thank you

heather

 

[yummy4tummy]

I heard back from her. She said that she was new to PC and only knew of the not selling new or used things on ebay. She said she didn't know that she was violating any policy and has since removed the post. I was very gentle in my approach and in return, she was very appreciative for the heads up. Whether or not she was blowing smoke...I don't know, but at least I know that I handled it in a decent manner instead of assuming that she knew better. And her reply seemed very sincere.

 

[HockeyLover]

If I were to try and report/correct every PWS I came across on the web, it would be a full time job! Myspace and the myspace-type sites are full of PWS links. I actually had to go back and read the policies over again to be sure I hadn't read them wrong in the first place. I couldn't believe that people get away with it.

 

[ljeffries]

She has pulled the auction.

 

[bethsbiz]

This situation is a reminder to us all that a lot of brand new consultants have no clue of things like the policies and such. They are excited to start selling products, become qualified, earn commission and PC bucks. Reading boring things like policies is often not a priority...and, a lot of recruiters are not reminding them of the need to be aware of these rules. And if a new consultant becomes a seasoned consultant without ever really reading or paying attention to these policies, then you compound the problem. Yes the policies are posted but that doesn't make people read and understand them.

Look at how often this site sees posts of questions that are easily answered if the person goes to consultant corner and finds the info themselves.

I always appreciate replies that direct the questioning consultant back to the resources PC provides. This sounds cryptic sometimes but ultimately it is the right thing to do and will help consultants build their businesses properly.

 

[BethCooks4U]

This situation is a reminder to us all that a lot of brand new consultants have no clue of things like the policies and such. They are excited to start selling products, become qualified, earn commission and PC bucks. Reading boring things like policies is often not a priority...and, a lot of recruiters are not reminding them of the need to be aware of these rules. And if a new consultant becomes a seasoned consultant without ever really reading or paying attention to these policies, then you compound the problem. Yes the policies are posted but that doesn't make people read and understand them.

Look at how often this site sees posts of questions that are easily answered if the person goes to consultant corner and finds the info themselves.

I always appreciate replies that direct the questioning consultant back to the resources PC provides. This sounds cryptic sometimes but ultimately it is the right thing to do and will help consultants build their businesses properly.

I agree. So often people post ways to get around things or say "I do this..." and then newbies think it's okay to bend the rules. Pampered Chef is SO generous to us and we need to follow their guidelines so that it stays that way!

EVERYONE of us should read the information in our business guide and on the web when we have a question. This site and your director are great for a quick answer or clarification but it is NOT gospel!

Go to the source for the final word and if you contact PC for clarification do it by email - then your answer is in writing and more accurate. Often the operators are giving their best guess. They are human too and just want to help but don't always interpret things accurately either (just like we don't always). If they write it down there is a paper trail so they will more likely check deeper into it. Also remember that the answers depend on how our questions are stated. If we are not totally clear they won't know the full question.

 

[amy07]

This situation is a reminder to us all that a lot of brand new consultants have no clue of things like the policies and such. They are excited to start selling products, become qualified, earn commission and PC bucks. Reading boring things like policies is often not a priority...and, a lot of recruiters are not reminding them of the need to be aware of these rules. And if a new consultant becomes a seasoned consultant without ever really reading or paying attention to these policies, then you compound the problem. Yes the policies are posted but that doesn't make people read and understand them.

Look at how often this site sees posts of questions that are easily answered if the person goes to consultant corner and finds the info themselves.

I always appreciate replies that direct the questioning consultant back to the resources PC provides. This sounds cryptic sometimes but ultimately it is the right thing to do and will help consultants build their businesses properly.

good points! I think actually sending a copy of the policy & procedures with the kit would help too!

 

[PCwithStay-C]

guess im one of the not normal type i read the policies and procedures front to back twice and now keep a copy of it in my business folder i really do need a life LOL

 

[ChefBeckyD]

guess im one of the not normal type i read the policies and procedures front to back twice and now keep a copy of it in my business folder i really do need a life LOL

I read everything too Stacy - I think I had the policies and procedures memorized before I ever did my first show!

I think it is the wise (and right) thing to do to refer people back to the manual - whenever I answer a policy question - I always try to provide a link to the answer in the handbook. When confronted with a policy issue, it isn't a very good excuse to say "Well, another consultant told me I could....." It is our responsibility to KNOW what the policy says.

 

[PCwithStay-C]

I read everything too Stacy - I think I had the policies and procedures memorized before I ever did my first show!

I think it is the wise (and right) thing to do to refer people back to the manual - whenever I answer a policy question - I always try to provide a link to the answer in the handbook. When confronted with a policy issue, it isn't a very good excuse to say "Well, another consultant told me I could....." It is our responsibility to KNOW what the policy says.

Yeah I wouldnt even attempt to answer a questoin on policies, just in case something said is taken the wrong way. its just easier to refer to the manual

 

[tlennhoff]

guess im one of the not normal type i read the policies and procedures front to back twice and now keep a copy of it in my business folder i really do need a life LOL

I read it a couple times myself. I read it all the 1st time before I signed and then again when my kit came. I now do most of my research of questions on CC rather than keeping the book by my chair.

 

[janetupnorth]

I didn't even think of that. I hope she heeds the warning and removes it before she gets in to some serious trouble.

Listing ended by the seller so she heeded someone's warnings...