Forged vs. Old Knives: What Are the Key Differences?

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Discussion Overview

This thread explores the differences between forged and old knives, with participants sharing their personal experiences and insights regarding the performance and usability of both types. The conversation includes various methods of demonstrating these differences to customers and addresses common misconceptions about knife maintenance.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, notes that the new knives do not have self-sharpening containers but are well-balanced and high-quality.
  • Another participant shares their experience of previously disliking Pampered Chef knives but now loving the new ones, emphasizing the importance of trying them to appreciate their benefits.
  • One participant mentions that the old knives are suitable for everyday cooking, while the forged cutlery is better for those seeking a more professional option.
  • Several users mention that forged knives tend to stay sharper longer and are thicker and heavier, which some believe contributes to better cutting performance.
  • One participant discusses the suitability of old knives for average kitchens and camping, while highlighting the higher quality of new knives for serious cooks.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of sharp knives for safety, explaining that dull knives can lead to accidents due to the extra force required to use them.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the purpose of the old knife case, initially believing it was for sharpening rather than honing.
  • Another participant admits to previously misunderstanding the function of the old knife case and stresses the need for professional sharpening of new cutlery.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on the understanding of knife maintenance and the effectiveness of the old versus new knives. Some participants agree on the benefits of the new forged knives, while others highlight the adequacy of the old knives for everyday use.

Contextual Notes

Participants share their personal experiences and methods for demonstrating knife differences to customers, reflecting a range of familiarity with knife maintenance and performance.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for Pampered Chef consultants looking to enhance their knowledge about knife differences and improve their customer interactions regarding cutlery.

TinasKitchen
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A customer asked me what the difference was between the 2.. I was a bit dumbfounded but explained how the new knives do not have self sharpening containers but do come with covers. They are very well balanced in your hand and are top of the line knives. I know I left out a ton.

What would you have said?
 
I have been getting that ALOT too...all I do is hand them both chefs knives and tell them to tell me the difference...works every time. Most people don't realize the value of good knives. Before the new knives came out I didn't use Pampered Chef Knives...I hated them. They wouldn't stay sharp, they didn't cut very well...and the list goes on. I had a good set of German Knives that I got in Germany that I would use...now...I am using my PC ones and I LOVE THEM! They have to try them to see/feel the benefit.
 
I tell people that our old knives are fine for a day-to-day cook to use, but if they want something a little more professional, then the forged cutlery is for them.
 
The new knives are forged, the old ones are stamped out on sheets of steel by a machine. Forged knives stay sharper longer.
 
This is why they are much thicker and heavier. Heavier knives seem to cut better if that makes any sense.
 
I've been asked the same question. I also tell them that the old knives are excellent for the average kitchen. They're also great to take along when we go camping. The new knives are higher quality and the better choice for people who do a lot of cutting and chopping--people who are either already accomplished in the kitchen or are trying to become that.I like the idea of handing one of each the person who asked. I do that with the cookware, since I get the same question for that. Actually, my answers to that question are generally the same as the one about the knives.
 
One important thing to remember - when someone says, "I could never use those because they are so sharp I would cut myself," you have to reply IMMEDIATELY that people cut themselves with DULL knives because they have to work too hard too hard to use them. A sharp knife does the cutting so you don't have to work as hard, therefore, a sharper knife is much safer.(People cut themselves with newly sharpened knives because they're so used to having to force the previoulsy dull knives that they work too hard and slip with the super-sharp blade. That alone is reason enough to keep cutlery sharp!)It's just true. Same is true in the workshop when it comes to saws, planes and jointers. Ask any carpenter about sharps.You also have to stress that the case of the old knives is for HONING the blade, not sharpening it. The new cutlery has a hone available on October 1 and will, occaisionally, need to be honed. You do not want to sharpen the new cutlery more than once a year, and then, have the sharpening done by a professional sharpening shop.Why use TPC hone? The angle of the cutting edge of the blade on the new cutlery is specificly set. If you mess with the angle of the cutting edge, you'll ruin it. TPC's hone is set to the angle of the cutting edge. NEVER use a whetstone or another brand hone on the new cutlery, or you'll ruin your edge.
 
the case of the old knives is for HONING the blade, not sharpening it.


I thought that it was to sharpen the blade?? I've been telling people for 2 years, when you push down on the black button to sharpen it! :rolleyes:
 
I don't think the average user knows the difference anyway.
 
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I said the same thing.. it is a self sharpening case. I do prefer our new forged over the old. And I do always say at any show, even before the cutlery that dull knives are unsafe in the kitchen.

I was on the bus when this customer asked me, so I couldnt hand her the knife but I will do so at the show.
Thanks!
 
I was WRONG and I humbly ask your forgiveness
letscook04 said:
the case of the old knives is for HONING the blade, not sharpening it.


I thought that it was to sharpen the blade?? I've been telling people for 2 years, when you push down on the black button to sharpen it! :rolleyes:

I just had a nice chat with my contact in the Test Kitchen at HO.

I was wrong.

The case that comes with the older stainless steel knives is, in fact, for sharpening the blades and not just for honing the blades.

However, you must also stress to your customers that the NEW cutlery should NOT be sharpened more than once a year and then only by a professional sharpener. It would be a great investment to own the honing tool, available now, to keep the edge sharp on the blades and ensure the investment the customer is making in these excellent blades.

The new blades will hold their edge but need an occaisional honing to remove burrs and microscopic chips that are a result of everyday use.
 

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the main difference between forged and old knives?

The main difference between forged and old knives lies in their manufacturing process. Forged knives are made from a single piece of high-carbon stainless steel that is heated and shaped, resulting in a stronger and more durable blade. Old knives, on the other hand, may refer to traditional stamped knives that are cut from a sheet of steel, which can lead to a thinner and less resilient blade.

Are forged knives better than old knives?

Generally, forged knives are considered superior to old knives due to their enhanced strength, balance, and edge retention. The forging process creates a denser blade that can withstand more stress, making it less likely to chip or break compared to older, stamped knives.

How does the weight of forged knives compare to old knives?

Forged knives tend to be heavier than old knives because they are made from a solid piece of steel. This added weight can provide better control and stability while cutting, which many chefs prefer. Old knives, being stamped, are often lighter and may feel less substantial in hand.

Do forged knives require different maintenance than old knives?

Both forged and old knives require regular maintenance, but forged knives may need less frequent sharpening due to their superior edge retention. However, both types should be hand-washed and dried immediately to maintain their quality and prevent rusting.

Can I find forged knives in the Pampered Chef product line?

Yes, Pampered Chef offers a selection of high-quality forged knives that are designed for durability and performance. Their knives are crafted to provide excellent cutting precision, making them a great addition to any kitchen.

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