Where Are You Going? Discover the Answer on the 5th

[Chef Kearns]

I am one who loves a cruise! It is so much fun and all-inclusive which is one of the main things I love about it. I had fun in Miami at the Fountainbleu hotel, but it was not all-inclusive. We had to pay for a lot more things. So the "FREE" trip wasn't so free. That point of fact really turned my hubby off. That was our first trip.

I had a good time at Disney. It was absolutely insane!! My husband lost all of our tickets on the first day there. We were still able to visit parks though, but that first day I had a serious meltdown! I did not enjoy Epcot. It is very cool, but there is no freaking shade and everything is like a 5 mile walk apart. Not enjoyable in 100 degree 100% humidity. I SO thoroughly enjoyed the last day! OMG!! Cupcakes all in the street, free ice cream and food. Minimal lines for rides. It was so much fun. My daughters had such a great time at the PC parade, especially when the characters came over and shook their hands and stuff.

Guesses for next trip???? I would prefer an all-inclusive destination. However, except for the cruises they don't really do that. I think a Mexican destination is coming. It would be fun for Brazil or something. How cool would Mardi Gras be in Brazil???!! Amazing! I would love to earn another European trip. I hate I won't earn the Med cruise. That looks awesome! Everyone is gonna have a blast on that trip for sure!

I hope they reduce the recruiting requirements. I doubt they will, but a girl can dream. I don't think it is quite fair for people to have 80,000 points, 4 qualified recruits and end up with nothing. That's my 2 cents.

 

[pckelly]

I am one who loves a cruise! It is so much fun and all-inclusive which is one of the main things I love about it. I had fun in Miami at the Fountainbleu hotel, but it was not all-inclusive. We had to pay for a lot more things. So the "FREE" trip wasn't so free. That point of fact really turned my hubby off. That was our first trip.

I had a good time at Disney. It was absolutely insane!! My husband lost all of our tickets on the first day there. We were still able to visit parks though, but that first day I had a serious meltdown! I did not enjoy Epcot. It is very cool, but there is no freaking shade and everything is like a 5 mile walk apart. Not enjoyable in 100 degree 100% humidity. I SO thoroughly enjoyed the last day! OMG!! Cupcakes all in the street, free ice cream and food. Minimal lines for rides. It was so much fun. My daughters had such a great time at the PC parade, especially when the characters came over and shook their hands and stuff.

Guesses for next trip???? I would prefer an all-inclusive destination. However, except for the cruises they don't really do that. I think a Mexican destination is coming. It would be fun for Brazil or something. How cool would Mardi Gras be in Brazil???!! Amazing! I would love to earn another European trip. I hate I won't earn the Med cruise. That looks awesome! Everyone is gonna have a blast on that trip for sure!

I hope they reduce the recruiting requirements. I doubt they will, but a girl can dream. I don't think it is quite fair for people to have 80,000 points, 4 qualified recruits and end up with nothing. That's my 2 cents.

How about those who have 120,000 points, 4 qualified recruits, promoted to Senior and have already earned Excellence Awards in Personal Sales....First time in 15 years I haven't earned a trip. I'm still smarting a little from that one.

 

[Inomiamenda]

How about those who have 120,000 points, 4 qualified recruits, promoted to Senior and have already earned Excellence Awards in Personal Sales....First time in 15 years I haven't earned a trip. I'm still smarting a little from that one.

Deb- ouch! That just seems so wrong. For both of you!

 

[Sheila]

(((hugs))) Deb!

 

[pamperedlinda]

How about those who have 120,000 points, 4 qualified recruits, promoted to Senior and have already earned Excellence Awards in Personal Sales....First time in 15 years I haven't earned a trip. I'm still smarting a little from that one.

I'd be upset too.

 

[CoidgigBese]

How horrible for you, Deb! You have achieved a high level of performance.

I'm on the bandwagon of hoping they reduce the recruiting requirement. I'm sure it's wishful thinking. Or at least do something for someone like Deb. Instead of just at the gold level of being able to earn with just sales (no bonus points for recruiting or double points months) or with sales & recruiting, offer those 2 point options at the silver level, too.

Didn't someone say, either on this thread or somewhere else, that they thought HO was aware that the points are really high? For the Med. cruise, I understand and in the FAQ for this year's program it states that for such a premier trip the points are appropriately high. I get that. But do they need to be so high (points or recruits) for the other 2 levels? Gone are the days of being able to earn a trip by primarily selling.

 

[PamperedK]

Is there an Elite Seller level of the trip in the US?

 

[Sheila]

Yes, $140,000 in 2011 commissionable sales (no recruits required) earns the gold level. But I agree that I'd like to see a scale.

Right now it's:

• Bronze Level is 56,000 points & 6 recruits
• Silver Level is 84,000 points & 8 recruits
• Gold Level is 130,000 points & 12 recruits or $140,000 in Commissionable Sales

It would be cool if they would consider doing something like:

• Bronze Level
  • 55,000 points & 6 recruits
  • 70,000 points & 4 recruits
  • 85,000 points & 2 recruits
  • 100,000 points & 0 recruits
    
• Silver Level
  • 85,000 points & 8 recruits
  • 100,000 points & 6 recruits
  • 115,000 points & 4 recruits
  • 130,000 points & 2 recruits
  • 145,000 points & 0 recruits
• Gold Level
  • 130,000 points & 12 recruits
  • 145,000 points & 10 recruits
  • 160,000 points & 8 recruits
  • 175,000 points & 6 recruits
  • 190,000 points & 4 recruits
  • 210,000 points & 2 recruits
  • 225,000 points & 0 recruits

 

[ktraceyk]

Yes, $140,000 in 2011 commissionable sales (no recruits required) earns the gold level. But I agree that I'd like to see a scale.

Right now it's:

• Bronze Level is 56,000 points & 6 recruits
• Silver Level is 84,000 points & 8 recruits
• Gold Level is 130,000 points & 12 recruits or $140,000 in Commissionable Sales

It would be cool if they would consider doing something like:

• Bronze Level
  • 55,000 points & 6 recruits
  • 70,000 points & 4 recruits
  • 85,000 points & 2 recruits
  • 100,000 points & 0 recruits
    
• Silver Level
  • 85,000 points & 8 recruits
  • 100,000 points & 6 recruits
  • 115,000 points & 4 recruits
  • 130,000 points & 2 recruits
  • 145,000 points & 0 recruits
• Gold Level
  • 130,000 points & 12 recruits
  • 145,000 points & 10 recruits
  • 160,000 points & 8 recruits
  • 175,000 points & 6 recruits
  • 190,000 points & 4 recruits
  • 210,000 points & 2 recruits
  • 225,000 points & 0 recruits

Sheila are you requiring more than Pampered Chef did? $140,000 no recruits is Gold you are saying $225,000.

They used to allow a low level for consultants with more points and more up with title but you could earn at any level under you. That was nice to get but now they have the points for tile but that did not help with recruits.

 

[Sheila]

Their rule says $140,000 in Commissionable Sales. My example shows sticking with points so double/triple points count toward the trip and if they have an odd # of recruits those points would count too. The way they have the rule, the extra point days/months don't count nor would 1 recruit. It's easier to do 140,000 points than it is to do $140,000 in Commissionable Sales. So I figured I'd make the point value higher. But obviously it's not a final draft so if PC ever decided to go to something like this they could still keep the "$140,000 in Commissionable Sales" rule if they wanted.

 

[baychef]

Either way, I have not posted because I know my attitude is not very good when it comes to incentive trips. Deb's situation reinforces my feelings even more. I find it hard to get people all excited about an incentive trip because so many can not earn it. No matter how you scope out how you can achieve it.

The incentive trip was one of the reasons I started PC and it is the one thing that kept me very excited about my business. You could still earn a trip working a demanding full time job and PC. Maybe it is just me, but since they changed the recruiting levels, I can't seem to achieve one.

Out of 78 in my downline (4 different personal teams)...only 1 has been able to earn a trip this year.

 

[flemings99]

I wish they'd bring back the level 1 "trip". I'm guessing they'd say taste of travel replaced it, but I can remember back to when I first started and earning that 1st level really made me believe that I could earn the 2nd level and actually go on a trip. After achieving level 1 two yrs. in a row, it was the 3rd year that I got the trip. Plus, it was nice those first 2 yrs. to look back on the yr. and feel as I had accomplished something big. Even if it was just a $300 gift card.

I think having that lower level achievement would be the encouragement that so many need to strive harder the next year. Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[almondfarm]

I think the requirements are tough.. and the recruiting part is frustrating, because unlike the sales requirements that is something that we individually cannot control.

I had earned the trip three years in a row and am just short these last two years (2 recruits and a few thousand dollars!)...

I am going to embrace the new incentive trips as a reason to better myself and my overall business... I NEED to make the 3-2-1 my business practice in 2012 to reach other goals, such as getting to a better financial situation and growing my organization to an Executive Team and I am guessing that even if the requirements are more for the 2012 program that practice will earn me a trip!

 

[finley1991]

I am going to embrace the new incentive trips as a reason to better myself and my overall business... I NEED to make the 3-2-1 my business practice in 2012 to reach other goals, such as getting to a better financial situation and growing my organization to an Executive Team and I am guessing that even if the requirements are more for the 2012 program that practice will earn me a trip!

I agree. I've been thinking about 2012 going forward and I'm going to focus 100% with my team on TOT. They are all eligible. I am going to create a TOT Team. I'm also going to break it down and stay on track for it MYSELF even though I'm not eligible. I'm going to work it with them.

We can't change what it, we can just embrace it the best we can and move forward...

 

[CoidgigBese]

I had earned the trip three years in a row and am just short these last two years (2 recruits and a few thousand dollars!)...

That's EXACTLY where I am, 2 recruits and $3,000 in sales short of bronze. I'm pumped for Jan. just b/c it's going to start the year off so much better than last year; earning free for all will be secondary. It's a case of setting up a great Feb. in the hopes it will be double points month and meeting more people to increase recruiting. I did not do well last Feb. so really lost out on the double points month. Didn't recruit in July when they counted 1 recruit as 2. Sad to say, much of earning a trip is maximizing the bonuses. They didn't do any random triple point days this year. I guess they got too much flack from people who didn't like the randomness of them.

I'm always curious about the inner workings at HO. What is there "price point" for giving an incentive trip? What kind of production do they want to reward and how expensive is it for them to do that? I think we should send Sheila to HO as our Ambassador for Incentive Trips.

 

[BethCooks4U]

I wish they'd bring back the level 1 "trip". I'm guessing they'd say taste of travel replaced it, but I can remember back to when I first started and earning that 1st level really made me believe that I could earn the 2nd level and actually go on a trip. After achieving level 1 two yrs. in a row, it was the 3rd year that I got the trip. Plus, it was nice those first 2 yrs. to look back on the yr. and feel as I had accomplished something big. Even if it was just a $300 gift card.

I think having that lower level achievement would be the encouragement that so many need to strive harder the next year. Just my 2 cents worth.

My feelings exactly and my husband really liked that too.

 

[Sheila]

Love your positive thinking Colleen! Becca, you are funny girl. I spent all of about 2 minutes working on that example. I'm sure if they ever decided to do something like that, they would have a whole team of people (accountants) playing with the numbers to see what's most cost effective. Heck, for all I know they've probably already considered it & figured out how many MORE people they'd be sending on trips & that's why they have the current system ... less $ out of pocket. LOL

 

[finley1991]

Heads up... a D in PA got her BTB envelope with the trip info TODAY! (My mail has already come and I didn't get it...) Be on the lookout!

 

[jwpamp]

Got mine -- OMG!

 

[BethCooks4U]

Mine didn't come. Maybe tomorrow.

 

[CoidgigBese]

Got mine -- OMG!

Was that an OMG "I got it so early" or an OMG "I peeked and am thrilled with the trip(s)?"

I don't want to know ahead and am certainly not asking anyone to spill the beans, either on here or in a PM. But were any of the guesses/wishes correct? I know, Jan. 5 will come soon enough. Guess it's a good thing I'm not an active D right now cuz I'm not sure I could hold off on looking that long. My exec is doing her B2B on the 4th. I'm sure word will start leaking out before the 5th.

 

[Chef Kearns]

Janice, you're such a tease! I can't wait to get my package!! We are gonna do it up on the 5th.

 

[ktraceyk]

regular mail or fed ex?

 

[pckelly]

Mine came via regular mail. Nothing is hidden...they WANT us to view the DVD before BtB.

 

[pckelly]

PS - I think our earlier beefs have been heard. I would have earned a trip this year based on the ways to earn a trip next year.

 

[CoidgigBese]

PS - I think our earlier beefs have been heard. I would have earned a trip this year based on the ways to earn a trip next year.

That is so good to hear!!! Thanks for sharing, Deb. Esp. glad to hear that YOU (and hopefully the rest of us) will be earning a trip next year.

 

[jwpamp]

Still has Recruiting and Sales Points involved...no surprises there. Better method for earning it (it seems). Trips are good. I am happy with the choices.I didn't open the points tracker before I watched the DVD...I wanted to see what my team will see. I was excited to see the trips -- it will be very interesting to some of my team for sure -- they have asked for these destinations.

 

[Sheila]

I didn't get mine today. Maybe tomorrow ...

 

[pamperedlinda]

I didn't get mine today. Maybe tomorrow ...

I'm hoping so too! If the same people that are in charge of mailing the CN are also in charge of this, I'll likely get mine in time for the Feb meeting :roflmao:

 

[ktraceyk]

Me too! We are leaving n Christmas night for a week in Florida. Now I need to know before I leave!:bugeye: