Should I Allow Kit Nappers to Sign Up Under Me?

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Discussion Overview

The thread explores the experiences and opinions of participants regarding the phenomenon of "kit napping," where individuals sign up as consultants without the intention of actively selling products. Participants share their feelings about the implications of such actions on their own businesses and discuss various approaches to handling these situations.

Discussion Character

  • Opinion-based
  • Anecdotal
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses disappointment over losing potential sales when individuals sign up for the kit but do not intend to sell.
  • Another participant shares their experience of informing potential kit nappers about the sales requirements, suggesting that this often leads them to reconsider and place orders instead.
  • One participant reflects on the ethics of kit napping, questioning why someone would buy the kit again if they had previously been a consultant, and suggesting that it feels unfair to those who are genuinely trying to build their business.
  • Several users mention the possibility of encouraging kit nappers to host shows, which could benefit both the new consultant and the original poster.
  • One participant notes that they spoke to a potential kit napper about their intentions, leading to the individual expressing interest in hosting a catalog show.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of accountability, suggesting that those who sign contracts without intention to fulfill them are acting unethically.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ among participants regarding the ethics of kit napping and the best approach to handling such situations. Some participants advocate for encouraging kit nappers to engage in selling, while others express frustration over the practice.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and feelings about the impact of kit napping on their businesses, reflecting a range of emotions from disappointment to frustration and potential strategies for engagement.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants navigating similar situations with potential kit nappers may find the shared experiences and strategies relevant to their own practices.

veggiemama
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I am still in my first 30 days and trying to get all the incentives. Two different women (one from work and one from a social group) were going to place orders then decided that they wanted to buy the kit. They have actually both been PC consultants many years ago. Neither has any intention of selling. They are very up front about it. I am disapointed that I am losing two sales- every bit helps.

I realize that I get no benefit from them kit napping, but does it reflect badly on me? Should I reqest that they don't sign up under me?

Rebecca
 
I have had this happen befcore too. Most will be upfront about planning to buy the kit and do nothing with it. I always tell them they must qualify by submitting $1250 in sales (which is says in the fine print) or they will be charged the full amount. I know Pampered Chef wont do that but I dont feel that I should allow it when I know they are intending to do nothing with it. It wastes my time to be honest. Normally by telling them this they change their minds and actually place an order. I explain the reason the kit is discounted is for consultants only.
 
I have mixed feelings on the kit knapping issue... and here is what I think... I'm ready to take others slams for this....

Why would they want to buy the kit again if they were already consultants? They would already have one.

I think if someone is going to purchase the kit, then they should be accountable for at least 4 shows. They are signing a contract and purchasing products intended to use for demonstrations to sell more products. To me they are essentially ripping off the company. I don't care if "it's the best sale" in the catalog. It's unfair to you, who has taken the time to sign them up, and if they have no intentions of working the business then there is no benefit to you - incentive or otherwise... or to them other than they ran away with nearly $600 in products for $160. They may as well host a show.

On the other hand.... what if they get the kit and decide to give it a shot. Then it will benefit you. I don't believe it reflects poorly on you to sign up kitknappers.

What you could do it offer to do a grand opening show for them... sign them up so they get their kit, then do their show for them. They get the commission and host benefits, however you also make money and get a promotion. If there are bookings at the show and she doesn't want them because she's bent on only getting the kit then you take them... she could decide that she wants to give it a go.

Plus with this month being half price kit... they have to submit at least 1250 in sales in their first 30 days to get that $ back.

Good luck!
 
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Because they were consultants before they both know that they don't "have" to do the four shows or sell $1250 to keep the kit for $159. I did attempt to share my excitement about the incentives so that they would at least try to qualify. I mean, the great deal on the kit is what hooked me into giving the business a try! One is a consultant for another DS company and the other just started working a full time job and they are not interested attempting to sell any thing. It is just kind of an awkward situation.
 
veggiemama said:
Because they were consultants before they both know that they don't "have" to do the four shows or sell $1250 to keep the kit for $159. I did attempt to share my excitement about the incentives so that they would at least try to qualify. I mean, the great deal on the kit is what hooked me into giving the business a try! One is a consultant for another DS company and the other just started working a full time job and they are not interested attempting to sell any thing. It is just kind of an awkward situation.
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Well I would continue to encourage them to do a show, but chances are they won't, just let them know that if anything changes in the next 6 months in their lives they have this to jump into. Also I would see if they want to give you their paperwork or at least sell them to you for a steal. ;)
 
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cincychef said:
Well I would continue to encourage them to do a show, but chances are they won't, just let them know that if anything changes in the next 6 months in their lives they have this to jump into. Also I would see if they want to give you their paperwork or at least sell them to you for a steal. ;)
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I hadn't thought about the paper work. I bet they would both just give it to me. That makes me feel better about losing their orders. Thanks! :)
 
People who sign a contract with no intention of fulfilling the contract are thieves in my opinion. Just say'n ... ;)
 
Since they have both been consultants, maybe you can have them sympathise with you to at least do a few parties and or online parties to reach the 1250 in 90 days. Let them know that you really want whatever incentive (depending on how close you are with them). Remind them yet again, that they are signing a CONTRACT and that although they may not be held accountable for it, future new consultants will be. I do like the idea of offering to do their grand opening show for them and then seeing if anyone would do a catalog party for them until they get the 1250 and then they can be done if they want to.

Good luck...
 
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I did speak to one of the women and said that as a new consultant I didn't felt right having her sign up under my name with no intention to sell. I think I made her feel guilty, beacuse she called last night and wants to do a catalog show. ;)
 
Take that opportunity to help her decide if she really would like to give PC a try! Tell her to ask her friends as she's collecting orders whether they'd have a show for her if she decided to sign up. And, if she gets enough interest, it may be the boost she needs to make it happen. Then she can also get the kit credit to reduce her costs, add to her kit with her host benefits, and be off to a strong start.

And, if she asks her friends to host but still decides to NOT sign up, then you've got more show leads.;)
 
veggiemama said:
I did speak to one of the women and said that as a new consultant I didn't felt right having her sign up under my name with no intention to sell. I think I made her feel guilty, beacuse she called last night and wants to do a catalog show. ;)
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Good for you.

If they had made their intentions clear, then I'd likely respond with "well shame on you! I'm all for a bargain, but you know that isn't right."

I don't care when it comes to stuff like that. Wrong is wrong.
Sorry. I'm not going to coddle and adult and try to convince them to do the right thing. It's not worth my time. I'd rather pour that energy into someone who really wants and needs the business opportunity. But that be just me. :D
 

Frequently Asked Questions

What is a kit napper in the context of direct sales?

A kit napper is someone who joins a direct sales company, like Pampered Chef, primarily to purchase the starter kit at a discounted price, with little to no intention of actively selling products or building a business. They often sign up to take advantage of the initial benefits without committing to the long-term responsibilities of being a consultant.

What are the pros of allowing kit nappers to sign up under me?

Allowing kit nappers to sign up can provide you with additional team members, which may help you achieve team sales goals and rank advancements. They can also create a supportive community, and if they do decide to engage more actively in the future, they could contribute to your overall success.

What are the cons of allowing kit nappers to sign up under me?

One downside of having kit nappers on your team is that they may not contribute to sales or team growth, which can affect your overall performance and morale. Additionally, if many of your recruits are kit nappers, it could dilute the effectiveness of your team and hinder your ability to build a strong, active sales force.

How can I encourage kit nappers to become active consultants?

To encourage kit nappers to become active, provide them with resources, training, and support. Share success stories, offer incentives for reaching sales milestones, and create a welcoming environment that fosters engagement. Regular communication and motivation can help them see the potential benefits of being an active consultant.

Should I prioritize recruiting active consultants over kit nappers?

While it’s beneficial to have a mix of both active consultants and kit nappers, prioritizing active consultants can lead to more immediate sales and team growth. Focus on attracting individuals who show a genuine interest in the business and are motivated to sell, while still being open to kit nappers who may evolve into active participants over time.

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