It's Been Established That Most Dislike the Ultimate Mandoline

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around participants' experiences and opinions regarding the use of the Ultimate Mandoline (UM) for preparing mozzarella cheese, particularly in cooking demonstrations. Many participants express their challenges and preferences related to cheese preparation techniques and tools.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses reluctance to use the UM for mozzarella, suggesting that it damages the cheese.
  • Another participant shares their experience of freezing mozzarella before using the UM to achieve better slicing results.
  • Several users mention that they often joke about using shredded cheese when hosts forget to buy block cheese.
  • One participant states they prefer using a box grater at home instead of the UM or Deluxe Cheese Grater (DCG) for shredding cheese.
  • Another participant notes that they do not like shredding cheese at shows and often suggest hosts buy pre-shredded cheese instead.
  • One participant mentions that they have had negative experiences with microwaving cheese, resulting in puddles or frozen cheese that does not grate well.
  • Several participants express a preference for the DCG over the UM for grating soft cheeses, while others appreciate the UM for slicing various ingredients.
  • One participant recounts a serious injury they experienced while using the UM, which has influenced their feelings about using it in demonstrations.
  • Another participant shares a method of using pre-grated cheese from the freezer to simplify their preparation process for shows.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ significantly among participants regarding the effectiveness and usability of the UM for cheese preparation. Some express strong dislike for the tool, while others appreciate its functionality for different tasks.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and preferences related to cheese preparation in the context of cooking demonstrations, highlighting various techniques and tools they use.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants looking for insights on cheese preparation techniques and tool preferences may find this discussion relevant to their own experiences in cooking demonstrations.

pamperedmomto3
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Not to beat a dead horse, but can anyone give me advice on what I should do to prepare mozzarella cheese. I don't want to use the mandoline because it desimates (sp?) the cheese but that is the only tool I have at my disposal to deal with cheese. Should I have the host purchase shredded cheese or would that be a faux pas? Can anyone give me a good pizza recipe that showcases the large bar pan, garlic press, classic batter bowl, prep bowls, utility knife and chopper? Thanks so much in advance!
 
garden ranch pizza---freeze the mozz about 10 minutes before----use
 
Most of my hosts forget to buy blcok cheese and we just joke about it and use shreaded... I say something funny like... Oooo the magic of a cooking show- your cheese just appears shreaded...that's how good PC is! :) You just have to look at your cheese and it shreads.. or something corny like that!

If you freeze your cheese for 15 minutes prior to using the ultimate madolin, you can get better slices, AND just put a little in at a time... best of luck (I don't like the madolin either, and if I could, I'd sell it!) (sorry, I know that's not acceptable)
 
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MORFIA said:
garden ranch pizza---freeze the mozz about 10 minutes before----use

Tried to freeze it and it did the same thing it always does.
 
i wd do most ahead of time----and or try to nuke it for a few minutes----as well as spray it with the spritzer----just tips----
 
I detest shredding cheese at my shows. I don't like either the UM or the DCG (personally, at home I use my aged box grater). I always tell my host that they can buy either the block cheese or the preshredded. If they buy block cheese I will grate the cheese before the show and save a small chunk to demo. If they buy the preshredded then I measure it in the Easy Read Measure Cups. Either way I have a tool to show.

Now, if we are using Parmesan Cheese that's a different story - I ALWAYS demo the Microplane - Love that thing!
 
I detest doing cheese on either the UM or the old USG. I was never able to get it to work.
I personally LOVE the DCG. I use it all the time, I don't even buy shredded cheese anymore.
 
pamperedlinda said:
I detest shredding cheese at my shows. I don't like either the UM or the DCG (personally, at home I use my aged box grater). I always tell my host that they can buy either the block cheese or the preshredded. If they buy block cheese I will grate the cheese before the show and save a small chunk to demo. If they buy the preshredded then I measure it in the Easy Read Measure Cups. Either way I have a tool to show.

Now, if we are using Parmesan Cheese that's a different story - I ALWAYS demo the Microplane - Love that thing!


I never grate soft cheeses at my show (always tell my host to get preshredded cheese) - always measure it into the ERMC - and also LOVE the Microplane!
 
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pamperedlinda said:
I detest shredding cheese at my shows. I don't like either the UM or the DCG (personally, at home I use my aged box grater). I always tell my host that they can buy either the block cheese or the preshredded. If they buy block cheese I will grate the cheese before the show and save a small chunk to demo. If they buy the preshredded then I measure it in the Easy Read Measure Cups. Either way I have a tool to show.

Now, if we are using Parmesan Cheese that's a different story - I ALWAYS demo the Microplane - Love that thing!

Great advice! Thank you!
 
Oh My!! I have some "grate" advice for you all.
Whether you are using the Deluxe Cheese Grater or the UM you should cut your cheese into the size you'll be grating,then put it in the microwave for 8-12 seconds. The time depends on the power of the micro. Doing this brings the natural oils of the cheese to the surface and it grates beautifully!!! Remember too that the softer the cheese the lighter the squeeze. No man handling the cheese!!!
 
I tried the microwave thing once and had a puddle of cheese. I also put it in the freezer one time and forgot about it - frozen cheese doesn't grate well either. In my opinion, these tips are adding an extra task to something that should be simple. I usually just take the cheese out of the fridge at the last minute and grate it really fast.
 
pamperedlinda said:
I tried the microwave thing once and had a puddle of cheese. I also put it in the freezer one time and forgot about it - frozen cheese doesn't grate well either. In my opinion, these tips are adding an extra task to something that should be simple. I usually just take the cheese out of the fridge at the last minute and grate it really fast.
That's what I do. I love the Ultimate Mandoline for lots of things. If I am shredding cheese for a show I do most of it when I arrive and pop a piece in the fridge to demo. It's a small piece so it takes no time and stays cold.

I prefer the "mess" of dealing with it to eating whatever those preservatives are that are in preshredded cheese.
 
I adore my UM and couldn't live w/o it!!!
I prefer the DCG for grating soft cheeses and tend to use my UM for slicing lemons & limes
 
dannyzmom said:
I adore my UM and couldn't live w/o it!!!
I prefer the DCG for grating soft cheeses and tend to use my UM for slicing lemons & limes
I agree. I love it too, but prefer the DCG for cheese.
 
I dont like using the mandoline at shows because with the old version I severed a part of my thumb at a show, lost tonnes of blood, passed out across the demo table, got taken out in an ambulance and required a transfusion.....

I actually really do like my DCG. I leave the cheese in the fridge to the last minute and dont press hard.
 
dannyzmom said:
I adore my UM and couldn't live w/o it!!!
I prefer the DCG for grating soft cheeses and tend to use my UM for slicing lemons & limes

I agree! I usually use my DCG for grating any cheese (except what can be done with the Microplane), but use the UM for all slicing, limes, tomato, cucumbers, zucchini, etc.

I too learned to microwave cheeses for 10 seconds before I grate it and my Upline Director told me that if the cheese clumps it's because you are trying too hard. Make sure to hold it gently so it doesn't get stopped up.

Shredded cheese is coated in cellulose, the white powdery looking stuff, to keep it from sticking together. :yuck: Ew, I just read more info than neccesary on Wikipedia...Cellulose is not digestible by humans and is often referred to as 'dietary fiber' or 'roughage', acting as a hydrophilic bulking agent for feces. :yuck: :yuck: That is why I tell people that they need the DCG...they don't need the extra cellulose in their cheese (won't ever use the exact wording of Wikipedia though ;) )
 
I too was worried about demoing the UM with cheese. I tried putting it in the freezer and it didn't help. I was then given the microwave tip by my director... and it does wonders!!! Just nuke it for 10 seconds or a little more depending on the size.
 
Does microwaving moz. cheese work? It's the worst, but I think I push down and I need to stop that.
 
dannyzmom said:
I adore my UM and couldn't live w/o it!!!
I prefer the DCG for grating soft cheeses and tend to use my UM for slicing lemons & limes

Same here... unless I'm doing slices of cheddar or mont. jack or something. But after about 10+ years of having the DCG, I finally figured out how to work it and LOVE it for mozz. cheese for pizza.
 
Love the UM. Grates cheese great!
 
I buy the biggest bag of pre-grated Mozz cheese at Smart & Final and keep it in the freezer. I take what I need to my shows in a small prep bowl. By the time I get there it has thawed out. I tell my hosts that I will provide the cheese to save them on the ingredients, they appreciate that. It saves me all the trouble and it's worth it, since I use it so much for different recipes it's a good investment and a write off.
 
Evelynt said:
Oh My!! I have some "grate" advice for you all.
Whether you are using the Deluxe Cheese Grater or the UM you should cut your cheese into the size you'll be grating,then put it in the microwave for 8-12 seconds. The time depends on the power of the micro. Doing this brings the natural oils of the cheese to the surface and it grates beautifully!!! Remember too that the softer the cheese the lighter the squeeze. No man handling the cheese!!!

I have done this for years and tell all my customers about it for the DCG. I have turned many customers from gtater haters into Lovers!

ETA.. Tip..... Start nuking at 5 secconds. Some new micros are very strong! If you start at 10 secconds in most new micros you will have a puddle of cheese. You want it just warm so the cheese looks a bit shiny.

Still HATE doing cheese on the UM!
Getting to like it for everything else though. It just takes getting used to after loving something elso so much for so long......
 
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I don't think I saw anyone post a recipe for pizza that highlights all the tools that was asked for at the beginning of this thread. When I started two years ago I did this recipe for most of my first shows and it was a hit. I still do it every once in a while and also make it at home. I give it to guests that purchase the large bar pan and recommend they make it to help season the stone...

It is adapted from the Stoneware Inspirations cookbook (pg. 13). The focaccia bread - I call it a pizza bread because it is more like pizza and I add onion so you can use the chopper...

I'll try to attach it here.

Hope this is helpful!
 

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Ok, ladies and gents: When I demo the DCG I first ask, who has this wonderful tool and just HATES IT! I usually get a few hesitations, but a few hands will go up. Then I have a child (old enough to handle it! I've had some as young as 6!) come up to help me. The child doesn't realize that they have to squeeze it (logic of a child! This is the trick to this tool!) to get it to grate. When the child grates it beautifully, they all look in amazement to the reason that the cheese actually grates! Whether you use hard cheese or soft cheese, DON'T SQUEEZE IT THOUGH THE GRATER!

Go and get a piece of cheese right now and try it. After you get the feel for it, it will NEVER be a problem again! No microwave needed! Good Luck with your UM AND DCG!
 
i'm not the biggest fan of the UM... and i know its crazy but i actually like the ultimate slice your finger off much better...
 
I called my host for tonight and told her to get the shredded mozarella. I do not like grating mozarella and I figure my customer do not either anyway! HA! I am going to grate the parmesean cheese though.
 
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heatherkiss said:
Love the UM. Grates cheese great!

Okay, what are you doing that I'm not doing? I also have a ton of trouble with tomatoes.
 
Count me in the Love the UM club.
 
I love the UM too. I love the grater, not only for cheese, but also for carrots, potatoes, zucchini, etc.....
 
I put the cheese in the microwave also on the defrost setting (so not too hot) for only a few seconds basically to take the chill out and it is slightly soft. I have grated 2 pounds of monz for homemade pizza in minutes. The key is not to heat the cheese so it starts melting.
Works perfect even when my husband use it!
Cathy
 

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