Help Needed: Recruiting woes with a Friend/Director

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Discussion Overview

The thread discusses challenges faced by a participant regarding recruiting new consultants, particularly in relation to their director's approach. Participants share their experiences and perspectives on how to navigate the differences in recruiting styles and the impact on potential recruits.

Discussion Character

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  • Opinion-based
  • Anecdotal
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a consultant, expresses concern about their director's pushy approach, which has led to recruits feeling intimidated and deciding not to continue.
  • Another participant suggests being honest with the director about the negative outcomes of her approach, emphasizing the importance of giving recruits the benefit of the doubt.
  • Several users mention the need to communicate expectations to recruits, highlighting that they should not feel pressured to commit beyond their comfort levels.
  • One participant shares their personal experience of starting with low commitment and eventually enjoying the process, suggesting that pressure can detract from the fun of the role.
  • Another participant proposes using a lighthearted analogy to describe the director's enthusiasm, aiming to alleviate potential recruits' concerns.
  • Several users agree on the effectiveness of a lighthearted approach to help recruits feel more at ease with the director's personality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ on how to address the director's approach, with some participants advocating for direct communication while others suggest a more indirect, lighthearted method. No clear consensus emerges on the best course of action.

Contextual Notes

Participants share personal experiences and feelings about recruiting dynamics, emphasizing the importance of understanding different styles and the impact on potential recruits.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants navigating similar challenges in recruiting and managing relationships with their directors may find the shared experiences and suggestions relevant.

acherry
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Okay Ladies & Gents,
I need your help.... not sure if this is the place to post, but as it deals with recruits, I guess so...
My director is great, awesome woman and PC consultant...we have different personalities, but that's okay cause its great to bounce ideas off each other...
However, our recruiting styles are different....I have a lot of people are that are interested in just trying it...and haven't decided if they will stick with it...so they just want to try it with the 4 shows and go from there...So as my recruits are spread out...I try and get them together once a month, chat on the phone or e-mail for those living further away (i.e., 45min - 1hr from me). (oh, no I'm not a director yet, but a FD whose pretty close)...

So..I got a msg from one of my recruits, who I know was trying to fit this is into her already busy schedule, who has decided she's not going to do it anymore. She said she got a phone call from my director, and who, she said, was very pushy and made her feel very intimidated about selling PC to people, and said she just can't do all that stuff, and decided its no longer for her and that there is no changing her mind, but she'll definitely recommend me for future parties/sales.

This is the 2nd time this has happened to me. I'm not sure what to say to my director whose also my friend. I KNOW they are under her until I promote, but right now I feel like I'm not gonna get there, if this keeps happening... I KNOW she's just trying to do what she thinks is right (i.e., corresponding with new consutants), but its not going over very well with my recruits...

So...am I wrong...if I am..please tell me...if I'm not...should I say something?? If so, what do you think I should say?? I'm at a loss and need help...thanks for your time!!

Cheers,
Angela

P.S. I did respond to the recruit, and no, I didn't bad mouth my director, I just mentioned that I still think she would be great at it, and that I understood w/ her schedule she couldn't commit to it like she wanted and I hope she thinks of me for future PC needs, etc..
 
Be honest!!I can't stress this enough. Be honest to your director and tell her what the outcome was with that potential recruit she talked to. :eek:

That way she might back off a little.

I understand many directors don't want to get stuck with "kit nappers" who only want the products at a great discount and have no intentions of having shows or even selling anything.

But we must give people the benefit of the doubt. Who knows if someone who might just do one show a month, will love it and make better sales than our whole cluster!!

It's best if you tell her that she is scaring these potential recruits away!! Honestly I never wanted to committ to so many shows a month when I started. When I started I had 3 children, 2 I home school, and a baby girl who just turned 6 months!
Now I have four children and I do more shows than I ever expected to do. I have about 4-5 shows per month plus catalog shows. I love it!!! I knew I loved PC when I started but I didn't think I had the time to do more than 1-2shows per month!!
Things change and pressure is a horrible thing to put on people who are thinking about joining! It kind of gets rid of the idea of just having fun!! I use to stress out about low guest sales, low attendance, and unexcited hosts!! Now I just have fun and my career sales are better than ever!!
Tell your potential recruits that this job is FUN, and while they are having FUN they make some extra money and get FREE PC stuff!!!
It's great! But I recommend you sit and talk to your director. I'm not as close to my director as some are. Some are really good friends with theirs, but I still feel comfortable talking to her about my business. She is there to help you and to listen to what you need from her!!! Good luck!
Debbie :D
 
If your director is your friend then just tell her how you feel. I am also on the "roller coaster to directorship", I feel like if I recruit everyone then most of them will stay with PC if just for the hobby of it. Do what your gut tells you to do, if you speak with her about it...what will happen? If you don't speak with her about it...what will happen?
 
warn recruitsI'd talk to the director, but also tell the recruits upfront. Tell them how your director is in charge of the training but is more aggressive than you are. Set your expectations for them and tell them that they don't have to be pushed into anything. Like: "I'm so glad you're signing up and know you'll do your first four shows as obligated. Our director gets a little over ambitious at times and might make you feel that you have to do more than that, but you don't. PLEASE remind yourself that your goals are a little different than hers and that's okay - she is making this a career, and, right now, you are just considering the possibilities. If she pushes you to do more than you're ready, just tell her you'll consider it and hang up. Then call me and I'll talk to her."

Maybe even make it more lighthearted: "Our director is like an excited puppy who runs up to everyone and licks them, jumps on them and wants them to be as enthusiastic as she is. Some people think that puppy is adorable and others are completely annoyed. Please don't let her enthusiasm run you away."

Good luck...
 
beepampered said:
I'd talk to the director, but also tell the recruits upfront. Tell them how your director is in charge of the training but is more aggressive than you are. Set your expectations for them and tell them that they don't have to be pushed into anything. Like: "I'm so glad you're signing up and know you'll do your first four shows as obligated. Our director gets a little over ambitious at times and might make you feel that you have to do more than that, but you don't. PLEASE remind yourself that your goals are a little different than hers and that's okay - she is making this a career, and, right now, you are just considering the possibilities. If she pushes you to do more than you're ready, just tell her you'll consider it and hang up. Then call me and I'll talk to her."

Maybe even make it more lighthearted: "Our director is like an excited puppy who runs up to everyone and licks them, jumps on them and wants them to be as enthusiastic as she is. Some people think that puppy is adorable and others are completely annoyed. Please don't let her enthusiasm run you away."

Good luck...
That is so funny! I love the lighthearted approach- and it won't make them so "gun-shy" of your director! They will see her in a better light than being told she is more aggresive!

Becky
 
A great reply!
beepampered said:
Maybe even make it more lighthearted: "Our director is like an excited puppy who runs up to everyone and licks them, jumps on them and wants them to be as enthusiastic as she is. Some people think that puppy is adorable and others are completely annoyed. Please don't let her enthusiasm run you away."

Good luck...


That is wonderful! I agree that you should warn your recruits and talk to your director. She should want you to promote.
 
I agree, PLUS...
ChefBeckyD said:
That is so funny! I love the lighthearted approach- and it won't make them so "gun-shy" of your director! They will see her in a better light than being told she is more aggresive!

I agree with Becky! Sometimes we forget that not everyone wants to make PC their career. I think going the lighthearted way is the best approach. You never know when someone will end up saying "Oh, Jane I just love being in your cluster, and I don't think you're too pushy, ambitous or aggressive. I don't know what Angela was talking about?" You don't want to end up hurting your director's feelings or even alienating her by making her mad.

Good Luck!
 
First...the "excited puppy" analogy is VERY funny! And a cute way to make it light hearted.

Second...we need to remember that we get what we ask for. When we focus our recruiting talks on "just do 4 shows and quit if you want", we find that they usually do! Once I heard this it really clicked with how I had been recruiting. I was so frustrated with a cluster full of "every other month" consultants. They only sell $200 every other month.

It is perfectly fine to encourage new consultants and potential recruits to set a schedule that fits their situation...if that is just a few shows that is fine. But don't focus on "do just 4 shows and try it" or that will be what THEY will focus on.

Definitely talk to your director. If you have already spoken with a new consultant and know their goals, call your director first...before she calls them, and fill her in. No director should push her goals on someone else, even if she thinks she's helping them.
 
You could call the consultant who is ready to throw in the bag and offer her a carrot. Whatever her heart strings are, remind her of why she started to get involved in the first place. Also, will she be influenced by any incentives going on?

Unfortunately, lots of people don't stick to it when they aren't producing much. It takes more time than it's worth when they're only doing a show here and there. Also, they aren't earning any of the company incentives, so they often feel like PC is one more thing they're failing at. Nobody want to be involved in that. It never hurts to have an honest talk with her and show her these points and find out how much she would like to do. Here's Steve Wilshire's words: "If you had 100 people lined up and geographically close to you, asking you for shows during times you are available, how many shows would you like to do per month?" If her answer if 4 and she's only doing 1, she may need ideas for getting more shows.
 
Last Consultant StandingI heard a great bit of information the other night on a conference call. A Senior Executive was talking about sticking it out in this business. When she is asked why she is so successful, she says it's because she is the last consultant standing....meaning that you have to stay in this long enough to reap what you sow. So many times we get discouraged because we don't see immediate results and we want to quit but if we just hang on through the rough or slow times, we will begin to reap fabulous rewards :)
 
Here is a short story to share with your "busy" consultant. I work for the government full time (40+ hours a week), am the president of the Emerald Coast Golden Retriever Rescue (20+ hours a week of work) and do at least 4 shows a month with Pampered Chef. No, I don't have a HUGE business but I earned level 1 last year and am on my way to doing it again this year. I have great customers that know I am busy so we communicate mostly via e-mail. Phone calls just don't work for me...I am too busy...and most of my customers love that I am not calling and bugging them because BUSY people know BUSY people. I have a very successful business that lets me earn my free product, make a little money and gives me time to RELAX. Remember...Busy People are Successful people.

Hope this helps!
 
I am a firm believer in the 90 day rule - what you do today will "bloom" in 90 days. I had an okay Jan, horrible Feb, Mar and April, but am booming in May with shows and recruits. I took the extra time I had Feb-April (hosts kept reschedueling and no one else would book) and called and worked my tushie off! I have 4 possible recruits I'm working with and I'm trying to promote to Director on June 1. It really works! Ask her to try it for 90 days and see what happens.
 

Frequently Asked Questions

What should I do if my friend, who is also my director, is not supportive in my recruiting efforts?

It's important to communicate openly with your friend and director about your feelings. Schedule a time to discuss your recruiting challenges and express your need for support. They may not be aware of how their actions are affecting you. If the conversation doesn't lead to improvements, consider seeking advice from other experienced consultants or mentors within the Pampered Chef community.

How can I approach my friend about my recruiting struggles without damaging our relationship?

Approach the conversation with empathy and a focus on collaboration. Use "I" statements to express how you feel, such as "I feel overwhelmed with recruiting and would appreciate your guidance." Emphasize that you value their friendship and support, and frame the discussion as a way to strengthen both your business and your relationship.

What strategies can I use to recruit without relying heavily on my friend/director?

Explore various recruiting strategies such as hosting your own cooking shows, utilizing social media to showcase your products, and attending local events to network. Consider creating a personal brand that resonates with potential recruits. Additionally, leverage online resources and training provided by Pampered Chef to enhance your recruiting skills independently.

How can I handle negative feedback from my friend/director regarding my recruiting efforts?

Receiving negative feedback can be disheartening, but it's essential to view it as an opportunity for growth. Ask for specific examples and constructive criticism that can help you improve. If the feedback feels overly harsh or personal, remind yourself of your goals and seek encouragement from other team members or mentors who can provide a more positive perspective.

Is it possible to recruit successfully if my friend/director is not involved in my efforts?

Absolutely! Many successful consultants thrive independently. Focus on building your own network, utilizing various recruiting methods, and developing your skills. Attend training sessions, participate in online forums, and connect with other consultants for support. Your success ultimately depends on your dedication and ability to adapt, regardless of your friend's involvement.

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