Frustrated Over Unexpected Changes as Team Leader

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Discussion Overview

This thread centers around participants expressing frustrations and experiences related to changes in leadership status and compensation within the new program structure. Several participants share personal anecdotes about losing their titles or facing challenges due to the new tax changes and submission issues.

Discussion Character

  • Anecdotal
  • Opinion-based
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant, identifying as a team leader, expresses frustration over losing their status due to a downline issue and tax changes.
  • Another participant mentions that Consultant Connection numbers aren't final until the 10th and questions the timing of submissions.
  • Several users note that many leaders are experiencing fluctuations in their titles and compensation due to the new program.
  • One participant shares their experience of recruiting a new consultant just before the month ended, highlighting a positive amidst the frustrations.
  • Another participant recounts a director losing their status due to a minor sales discrepancy, emphasizing the need for attention to detail in the new structure.
  • Some participants discuss the implications of losing titles and the emotional impact it has on individuals who have held their positions for a long time.
  • One participant mentions that titles do not officially change in the first month, only the paid level, suggesting a need for awareness among team members.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Views differ among participants regarding the implications of the new program structure, with some expressing concern over the frequent loss of titles while others highlight the importance of staying informed and engaged with team dynamics.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects the challenges faced by consultants adapting to recent changes in the program, particularly regarding leadership titles and compensation structures.

Who May Find This Useful

Consultants navigating leadership roles and those interested in understanding the impacts of the new program structure may find this discussion relevant.

Jennie4PC
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This is just a rant so if you dont want to go any farther then that is ok.
I have been a team leader since we switched over to the new program and I have been getting HO leads which are awsome. Well I lost it for the month of June because1 my down lines shows was on hold. She resolved it before she went out of town with the CC BUT as of July 1st our tax changed, so since it was submitted so late on the last day of June she had to deal with the tax change, so because of that I lost team leader for this month.
I also had a show on hold that I submitted on June 30 at 11:30 due to the whole new tax change but I got that taken care of on the 1st.:mad:
 
Have you called HO about it? Consultant Connection numbers aren't final until the 10th. I always thought that as long as it was submitted by the last of the month, it counted for that month, even if there was an issue, as long as it was resolved within the first few days.
 
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It wasnt resolved until yesterday because she went out of town, and she called me and said the credit card went through but her shows was still on hold. I will be getting HO leads back next month and hopefully I can hold on to them again.
 
That is my understanding also Noora.
 
June shows had to be resolved by July 2nd.
 
Jennie4PC said:
It wasnt resolved until yesterday because she went out of town, and she called me and said the credit card went through but her shows was still on hold. I will be getting HO leads back next month and hopefully I can hold on to them again.
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Oh that sucks! :(
 
I have a feeling we will see ALOT of that happening with the new plan- leaders losing title/pay all the time as downlines fluctuate. It's their way of pushing us to recruit more so we are wide & deep and don't risk losing our level because of one downline with no backups. Not sure I like that, but it is what it is. :(Sorry you missed out. Hopefully you didn't lost much?
 
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The good thing is I did recruit 1 on the 30th of June due to a HO lead.
 
My director found out she lost her director status, and won't be getting the Directors SAT package. She was really bummed, and it was all because one consultant thought she had submitted a show that was fine, but although the show sales were over $150 - the COMMISSIONABLE sales were only $146. :eek: The worst part was that the consultant was w/in $200 of her career sales of $15,000, and is now inactive, and has to start over! I would cry.:cry: You really have to keep on your toes with this new structure!
 
Becky- she should still get the package. My director sent out an email reminding everyone that all directors who started the new career plan as directors get to keep their titles until July 31. And since the packages ship at the end of July, no one will lose out on them.
We did a whole cluster director call with a sales manager from the HO on this as one of our director calls a couple of months ago. ( my director is an exec, so there are quite a few of us.)
Hope this helps ease that ouchie!
 
beckyjsmith said:
Becky- she should still get the package. My director sent out an email reminding everyone that all directors who started the new career plan as directors get to keep their titles until July 31. And since the packages ship at the end of July, no one will lose out on them.
We did a whole cluster director call with a sales manager from the HO on this as one of our director calls a couple of months ago. ( my director is an exec, so there are quite a few of us.)
Hope this helps ease that ouchie!
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I'll have to let her know that! She just found out yesterday, because she was gone on vacation. She thought everything was okay when she left, and came home to this news! She was bummed, because she's been a director for 11 years, and this would be the first time it ever happened!Thanks!
 
yes, she should still get the director SAT package. I heard from two different NEDs that anyone who entered the new plan as a director will still get them.
 
We have a lot of Directors from our cluster losing their directorship. It's very sad.
 
ChefBeckyD said:
I'll have to let her know that! She just found out yesterday, because she was gone on vacation. She thought everything was okay when she left, and came home to this news! She was bummed, because she's been a director for 11 years, and this would be the first time it ever happened!

Thanks!
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No problem. :D Glad I could bring some good news. She doesn't lose her title unless she fails to perform as a director for 3 straight months, so she still gets the privileges, just not the pay. It is a little confusing.
I hate that anyone lost their directorship. Hopefully they will be able to build it back quickly, especially since they at least get to keep their consultants.
 
Oh...how sad to lose the career sales because of $4 !!!
ChefBeckyD said:
My director found out she lost her director status, and won't be getting the Directors SAT package. She was really bummed, and it was all because one consultant thought she had submitted a show that was fine, but although the show sales were over $150 - the COMMISSIONABLE sales were only $146. :eek: The worst part was that the consultant was w/in $200 of her career sales of $15,000, and is now inactive, and has to start over! I would cry.:cry: You really have to keep on your toes with this new structure!
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Afterthought here:
How was she able to submit that as a Show if it was only $146 in sales? Wouldn't it flag in P3 that it wasn't a qualified show?? I guess I'm confused on that part. I realize some of the Host items don't count, but she wouldn't have even had host benefits until it hit $150, right?
 
esavvymom said:
Oh...how sad to lose the career sales because of $4 !!!





Afterthought here:
How was she able to submit that as a Show if it was only $146 in sales? Wouldn't it flag in P3 that it wasn't a qualified show?? I guess I'm confused on that part. I realize some of the Host items don't count, but she wouldn't have even had host benefits until it hit $150, right?
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Past Host benefit brought it over $150.
 
I know that several people seem to be "losing" titles, etc. I almost hate to say this...but the program really means that we have to be in touch with our teams and know what's going on. I know that it sounds callous...it's not meant to. I know that all the changes are hard to adjust to, but remember that no title will officially change in the first month...just the paid as level. While that can be a tough pill to swallow...it's not as bad as you may think.
For the girl that was close to her $15,000...the career sales aren't lost the first month of inactivity...checked her performance details and see what it says! :)
 
ChefKrisB said:
I know that several people seem to be "losing" titles, etc. I almost hate to say this...but the program really means that we have to be in touch with our teams and know what's going on. I know that it sounds callous...it's not meant to. I know that all the changes are hard to adjust to, but remember that no title will officially change in the first month...just the paid as level. While that can be a tough pill to swallow...it's not as bad as you may think.
For the girl that was close to her $15,000...the career sales aren't lost the first month of inactivity...checked her performance details and see what it says! :)
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It was her 2nd month.
 
oh shoot! That's really sad!!!
 
ChefKrisB said:
I know that several people seem to be "losing" titles, etc. I almost hate to say this...but the program really means that we have to be in touch with our teams and know what's going on. I know that it sounds callous...it's not meant to. I know that all the changes are hard to adjust to, but remember that no title will officially change in the first month...just the paid as level. While that can be a tough pill to swallow...it's not as bad as you may think.
For the girl that was close to her $15,000...the career sales aren't lost the first month of inactivity...checked her performance details and see what it says! :)
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I do think it was designed to force teams to stay in touch! That has been such a sore point to a lot of downlines, that they don't hear much from their upline! I think it will take some getting use to, but the good news is you never loose your people for good!! I lost my entire team last year due to illness. No way of ever getting them back! That can't happen now!
 
Kris- did you walk at Leadership also? I also promoted to director 12/1/08 and promoted to Advanced July 1, so I will be walking again. Are you going to NC?
Congrats!!!!
 
Congrats Kris and Beckyjsmith! That is fabulous! Whooo Hoooo!!

I see you have 1 year Beckyjsmith....may I walk the same path with the same success as you! He He
 
Laurie- you totally can! Actually it's more like 17 months but I could not figure out how to put that. :)
Thank you!
 

Frequently Asked Questions

What should I do if my team members are not responding well to recent changes?

It's important to communicate openly with your team about the changes. Schedule a meeting to discuss their concerns and gather feedback. Encourage them to share their thoughts and feelings, and reassure them that their input is valued. This can help foster a sense of collaboration and support during the transition.

How can I maintain team morale during unexpected changes?

To maintain morale, focus on transparency and positivity. Share the reasons behind the changes and how they can benefit the team in the long run. Celebrate small wins and encourage team bonding activities to strengthen relationships. Acknowledge the challenges, but emphasize the opportunities for growth and success.

What strategies can I implement to adapt to changes effectively?

Develop a clear action plan that outlines the steps needed to adapt to the changes. Set realistic goals and timelines, and involve your team in the planning process. Regularly review progress and be flexible to adjust your strategies as needed. Providing training or resources can also help your team feel more equipped to handle the changes.

How do I handle resistance from team members regarding new policies?

Address resistance by listening to your team members' concerns and validating their feelings. Provide clear explanations for the new policies and how they align with the team's goals. Offer support and resources to help them adjust, and consider involving them in the decision-making process to increase buy-in and ownership.

What are some ways to encourage open communication during times of change?

Encourage open communication by creating a safe space for team members to express their thoughts and concerns. Use various communication channels, such as team meetings, one-on-one check-ins, and group chats. Regularly solicit feedback and be approachable, showing that you value their opinions and are willing to listen and adapt as necessary.

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